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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:32 PM
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47 CZARS under Bush vs 30 CZARS under Obama
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 06:37 PM by Peacetrain
Just listening to Hardball... so why all the angst on CZARS by the screamers on the right fringe?

EDIT to add a link

http://www.democrats.org/a/2009/09/the_bush_czars.php
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:34 PM
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1. Who quoted those figures? Just curious.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:35 PM
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2. Chris Matthews... I think that is what he said..
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:36 PM
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4. correct
heard it just before I changed the channel.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:38 PM
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7. ....
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:37 PM
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6. And where did he get the figures? More info needed. Thanks.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:38 PM
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8. Link added
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:44 PM
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12. I think wikipedia has the numbers for all the presidents' czars.....
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:35 PM
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3. I'd like to know that too. n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:37 PM
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5. link added
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:39 PM
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9. Thank you. eom
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:40 PM
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10. They really are desperate for a cause they can stand tall with.
Czars sounds so Russian, so foreign, so undemocratic, so totalitarian...they are all about image and never about substance.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:47 PM
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14. When they can't get people riled over race, sexism, religiosity, hatred of gays
they turn to those czars.. must be proof in their itty bitty little worlds that we are really communists ;)
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:50 PM
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15. The Communists Hated and Killed The Last Czars
No? Like Glen Beck, the Communists hated the Czars. Does that mean that Glen Beck sides with the communists?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:02 PM
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18. Exactly the Czars were the royalty the right loves...If the right fringe had been around during the
American Revolution.. they would have been tories
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:23 PM
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24. Oh wait. The communists got rid of the czars.
Doesn't that make THEM the communitsts? Now we know why they're so proud to be called "Reds."
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:40 PM
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11. You have to ask?
Because it makes for a good controversy, the media will run with it, and the Democratic leadership might just cave and change their stance.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:44 PM
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13. So true.. it is like asking why a stubbed toe hurts.. but I just had to ask
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 06:45 PM by Peacetrain
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:11 PM
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23. I am positive you do understand. I was just using a bit of theatrics.
The people doing this have no sense of decency.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:01 PM
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16. Because they're using emotional propaganda brainwashing as I thought they might
on posts #13 and #21 of this thread of which I started in May.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:22 PM
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17. I'm confused
Were there 47 czar positions or 47 people who seved as a czar during the 8 years?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:03 PM
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19. 36 aor 37 Czar postions with 46 or 47 seving in one of those positions
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:41 PM
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20. Was that the number over eight years vs. those in eight months?
The raw numbers need context.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:43 PM
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21. Gee - do you think it's not *REALLY* the czars-thing that bugs them?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:04 PM
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22. The czar thing has been going on since FDR. WIth that in mind, when
one looks at the number that have been appointed thus far, without benefit of senate vetting or confirmation, isn't it odd that the argument "Well, HE did it first" is used as borderline justification.
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