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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:52 AM
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Hell has frozen over...
From Bill O's show:

OREILLY: But you know, I want that, Ms. Owcharenko. I want that. I want, not for personally for me, but for working Americans, to have a option, that if they dont like their health insurance, if its too expensive, they cant afford it, if the government can cobble together a cheaper insurance policy that gives the same benefits, I see that as a plus for the folks.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:53 AM
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1. Bill O's a populist now?
Wow. He's being better than some "democrats" on this issue.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:57 AM
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4. I can't believe he was talking about a public option.
It may have come out sounding like it but I'm sure he'll come out with a retraction shortly, and an explanation of what he really meant. Guys like Billo don't suddenly develop empathy.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:23 PM
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9. Maybe it's his inner Catholic guilt screaming at him?
Last week, I seem to remember even that extremist Opus Dei asswipe Bill Donohue (of the "Catholic League") saying he was in favor of a public option. As John Lennon said in one of his last songs, "...strange days indeed"
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:33 PM
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12. It could be.
Even though I'm a lapsed Catholic I always say I'm a liberal because the nuns did a fine job of hammering the Works of Mercy in to my head (feed the hungry, house the homeless, heal the sick, etc).
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:02 PM
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27. he does have that sensibility
he;s also against that death penalty.

which is unusual for a conservative.

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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:32 PM
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11. I believe the correct word is "demagogue."
The term was coined by the Greek humorist Aristophanes to describe Cleon, who used populist positions to consolidate his power, then mis-used his power to get his city-state's ass kicked for all time and ever in the Peloponnesian War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogy
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:24 PM
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He has to find a way to outflank Beck
and since he cannot do this from the right, might as well do this from the left.
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jemelanson Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:56 AM
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2. Wow I do believe you are correct.
i do believe you are right azureblue, Hell has frozen over.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:57 AM
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3. I'm sorry but I will need a link or transcript or something
because this can't possibly be real.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:00 PM
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5. Here you go
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:04 PM
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6. Billo might be trying to change his image..I mean someone has to not be crazy at Faux right?
Shep can't do it all on his own.
:rofl:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:21 PM
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16. LMAO!!!!!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:12 PM
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28. Well, Geraldo is probably half sane
He was the other one (besides Shep) who went off script during the Katrina coverage. I doubt Geraldo really gives a shit about promoting the right wing agenda. He only gives a shit about promoting Geraldo Rivera.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:13 PM
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7. Here I come Elizabeth...
it's the BIG ONE!
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:43 PM
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24. LOL
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 06:27 AM
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29. Thank you.
I just informed my husband about this little gem of info, and he gave me the oddest look.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:17 PM
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8. Good for HIM!!! Finally! Some sense coming from this man. Maybe he's been watching Glen Beck and
seeing himself. We should email him and thank him!
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:31 PM
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10. Somebody feels the wind blowing in another direction
On this issue anyway.

You don't think Bill actually has convictions do you? Bill is all about Bill's ego.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:46 PM
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13. Personally I think he misspoke.
We'll see.
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:16 PM
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14. I think he's decided that some kind of reform is going to pass
And he wants to claim some credit.

Of course he could just do what he usually does and lie about it later... I could be wrong. Second guessing a wing-nut is a mugs game.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:25 PM
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19. No doubt about it. That was a striking shift in tenor for O'Rly. He wants to claim some credit
when all is said and done. This is a great sign.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:27 PM
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20. Absolutely... wouldn't trust him for one second....
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:20 PM
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15. Expect him to do a 180 and attack later on.
"I was all for the idea but then blah blah blah"

Don't get too used to the idea of O'Loofah supporting govt. run health insurance.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:31 PM
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22. He won't even say "I was all for it"
He'll claim that he never said it. Stream-of-consciousness liars who make up "facts" to support their position don't even know what they said two minutes ago.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:36 PM
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23. That was my first thought. nt
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:23 PM
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17. For a minute there I thought...
...someone had sold me a bad quarter. I was gonna flush it.

Are you sure?

EXIT QUESTION: Will his audience abandon him as a traitor or will they suddenly fall in line for the public option?

Ironically maybe we can race back to the Blue Dogs and say, "See! See! If O'Reilly can support it and keep an audience so can you...GET ON BOARD OR GET OUT OF THE WAY!"
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:24 PM
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18. BREAKING: In other news, Bill O'Reilly has been terminated by FoxNews.
:rofl:
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:29 PM
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21. Well, he claims to be opposed to the death penalty
And I've heard a conservative acquaintance complain about his populism in the past.

So maybe his support for a public insurance option shouldn't be so shocking.

Good for him.

Now, about that "Tiller-the-baby-killer" business...
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:50 PM
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25. My head just exploded.
What a mess. Thanks a lot.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:56 PM
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26. I bet his next words were an attack on Obama though
Like "I support a public option, but this thing Obama is proposing is a total Stalinist-Nazi government takeover that will kill everybody in their sleep" or something. As in, "we're reasonable, but Obama is nuts *and* lying to you".

On the other hand he might actually be on to something for once. I give it 95-1 odds.
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