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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:24 AM
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If Dems pass the Baucus Health Plan and the president signs it--we deserve to lose in '10
Sorry but the more I hear about the Baucus plan on television and newspapers the more I see it as another big giveaway to the the Insurance Industry. This is a BAD bill. Baucus couldn't even get any Republicans to support this valentine to the insurance industry. Defeat it in committee!

The lessons to the democrats is to pass a good solid bill with a public option and stop worrying about getting GOP support. They won't support anything the dems come up with.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:36 AM
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1. I frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their ass a'hoppin.
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 09:37 AM by Atman
Why even bring this up? If you think this bill has a snowball's chance in hell of even being considered, you're nuts.

But I agree...IF...IF...it passes, we should all just say fuck it and face the fact that we've been totally sold out. But that is a very, very, VERY big if.


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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:27 AM
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8. I actually believe with just a little tweaking it will pass and be signed by Obama
The Administration has been pretty clear that this is very close to what they want. Pelosi has intimated the House will go along and accept Co-Ops in the place of Public Option. I suspect there will be both Co-Ops and a Trigger in the final Bill to help sooth Progressives and No Public Option. This can ONLY happen though if Mass provides an interim Senator to prevent a Republican fillibuster..
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:39 AM
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2. As if the Dems in office (both branches) will EVER grow a spine. Even after countless examples
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 09:40 AM by T Wolf
of the pukes complaining, the Dems giving up anything of value in a bill, and the pukes still not voting for it - "our" politicians continue to do their worst.

They really don't care. Why should they? They have theirs.

Again - what is the difference between the two parties in the outcomes they produce?

The only thing you have wrong is...

"We" do not deserve to lose. The cretins in office do.

On second thought, maybe we do deserve to lose. After all, we are the voters that keep electing these traitors.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:54 AM
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3. We will (if that happens).
Pretty much a guarantee.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:59 AM
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4. This turkey isn't going to pass
No one likes it.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:06 AM
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5. Jay Rockefeller says he won't vote for it in its current form.
With 13 Democrats and 10 Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee, one more Democratic defector would kill it there.

They need to start all over from scratch, excluding Republicans from further discussion.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:06 AM
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6. That dog may have been crafted for this time, To make the real bill sexy.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:12 AM
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7. The Baucus plan is already DOA. I think the Harkin committee is now in the Senate driver's seat. nt
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:43 AM
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9. The Democratic Party does not need GOP support
they need moderate Democrat support.

You are correct though, this bill by Baucus is BAD.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:27 PM
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10. The Baucus Bill is "UNPASSABLE" - Dems do not like it, it is DOA. n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:32 PM
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11. The bill is a complete fucking joke
and so is the fool who wrote it.
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