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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:44 AM
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Ok folks The Baucus bill is not DONE.
It first has to get out of committee and there is a good chance it won't.

Even if it does it has to go to conference to match this with the OTHER TWO bills under consideration. If it does not the OTHER TWO Senate potential bills have a PO, the Heatth and Education Committee one had Teddy's hand on it, and is quite progressive.

So first call your Senators if they are members of the Finance Committee and URGE THEM to kill it in Committee. If not. call them to tell them to kill it in conference.

Damn I know the Senate is arcane, but this is NOT the ONLY GAME IN TOWN.

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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:46 AM
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1. A sane voice. Thanks.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:47 AM
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2. done? its on life support. Its hard to think of a bill that has received so much
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 12:47 AM by grantcart
ridicule after so much hype.

Rockfeller's long one on one with President today was telling. The President wasn't meeting with Baucus.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:48 AM
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3. You will apreaciate this other thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

You do know the history of the Senate after all
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:53 AM
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6. last week he had a little presser and was almost choking out the words

there is no chess here the guy got into one of these little groups and became detached from reality.


What is so strange is that the finance committee is a big committee and if he hadn't tried the gang of 6 he might have had a chance at a compromise.

Once he made it only 3 Republicans the problem was that the Republicans couldn't bring in any of the other committee members.

Had he slugged it out with the bigger committee he might have succeeded in getting 6-7 Republicans.


It was doomed from the start.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:56 AM
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7. I know... and that is what is so ironic
regardless we'd better see this come out and pass... and I don't mean Baucuse's abomination,
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:51 AM
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4. Conference within the Senate?
Wasn't aware of that part of the procedure.

Thanks.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:53 AM
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5. Yeah before they vote on any final bill
Why this is like watching sausage.

And after they vote on it and the house votes on theirs... another conference

Ain't watching sausage making fun?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:56 AM
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8. Yuck!
I was aware of Sen/Cong conference, but not within Senate. So there's Kennedy Bill and another?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:00 AM
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10. We have the health and education bill
Kennedy's, this one and another one...

Usually we do not get into this stage because usually we don't have competing bills
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:56 AM
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9. There are going to be a ton of Amendments voted on and probably added starting next
Tuesday. Rockefeller says he has a ton of them. Lets see what they can get added and changed.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:01 AM
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11. It first has to get out of committee
and WATCH those amendments like the proverbial hawk
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:52 AM
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15. It is going to get a ton of Amendments before the Committee ever votes.
Rockefeller said he has a ton of them. He wants the Public Option. He wants larger subsidies. He wants the good stuff.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:17 PM
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17. I just talked to my Senators
poor staffer, he was surprised when I went in detail on all the crap in there... I mean I opened the PDF of the actual bill as it stands right now.

They hate it when we the people know the details better.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:28 AM
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12. It's out of Committee. Just focus on the HELP Bill
And forget the Baucus bill.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:30 AM
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13. It has not been voted out
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:00 AM
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14. Maybe not
Still, I wish we'd just forget that damn bill and focus on reconciling HELP and the HR3200.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:07 PM
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16. The best we can hope for is for
this to DIE in committee...


otherwise it is in the mix
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