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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:35 PM
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congress to end poverty by requiring all americans to become wealthy or face fines
hey, if it makes sense to solve the problem of uninsured americans that way, why not use it for other problems?

solve the unemployment problem by forcing the unemployed to get jobs or face fines.

save the auto sector by forcing americans to buy cars or face fines.

so much potential in this private mandate concept!

:sarcasm:



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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:36 PM
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1. That headline is Onion-worthy!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:26 PM
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61. they say that truth is always stranger than fiction - case in point here I think
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:39 PM
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2. Wickedly delicious....
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 09:40 PM by AnneD
in a Jonathan Swift way. :evilgrin:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:48 PM
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86. self-delete
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 07:50 PM by Ken Burch
dupe post

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:49 PM
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87. Y'know, "A Modest Proposal" has always made me a little nervous about eating
about eating meat products from THIS company:

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:39 PM
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3. What if they can't pay the fine or penalty? Are they going to reinstitute the poor house?
Will they foreclose on the homes of those who default on their penalties and send them out into the streets? Will they get locked up in privatized prisons and work off their fines in chain gangs?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:42 PM
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7. they won't have to, silly! out of fear of fines, everyone will choose to become wealthy instead!
we won't actually have to enforce fines, the fear of fines is enough to make the plan work!

c'mon, show a little faith!

:rofl:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:52 PM
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15. I don't know what came over me
Of course we won't even need health insurance at all if they mandate good health. Everyone with cancer can just will themselves into remission instead of facing the high cancer fines.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:55 PM
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16. capital idea! send it to baucus!
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:43 PM
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10. Road Gang Slavery.....
Finally, really cheap labour. Consumer economy shot all to hell, but we can export.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:41 AM
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43. That's what I envision. Prison! FREE health care! nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:40 PM
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4. Duplicate post - sorry
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 09:41 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
I'm having a little trouble with the board tonight. I click and nothing seems to happen.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:40 PM
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5. 100% employment! A Worker's Paradise! n/t
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:41 PM
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6. Can I get a tax credit and a side of deregulation to go with that?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:08 PM
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20. Only If We Cut Capital Gains

Remember when that was the answer to every question?
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:15 AM
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30. Bush the first ..yes I remember.. we all see how well that worked out I hope. nt
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:43 PM
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8. Too bad ignorance can't be as easily fixed
If only the Morans had to get a brain or pay a fine ;)

Love your OP. Priceless!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:41 PM
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25. fixed, no. fined, yes. after all, what is a lottery but a fine on stupidity?
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:43 PM
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9. felony or misdemeaner ?
to be uninsured?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:43 PM
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11. Rush often lurks around DU
he's said so many times. Don't be surprised to hear this as a meme the latter part of this week.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:39 PM
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69. Rush suggested taxing the poor years ago. Link
RUSH ARCHIVE: It is time to get serious, and it is time to get tough about tax policy in this country. The middle class, coupled with the rich, make this country work. Those two groups working together in unison are what make this country work. Now, what's slowing this country down? Tell you who it is. The poor. The poor and the lower classes of this country have gotten a free ride ever since the Great Depression, when it became noble to be poor. Look at how we treat the homeless, why we celebrate them, why we make romantic figures out of them, why we make movies about them. We teach them to dine in Dumpsters now because America is so impolite, America doesn't care, America is so rude. My friends, we have the wealthiest poor in the world. They're the ones who get all the benefits in this country. They're the ones that are always pandered to. We have been encouraging poverty because they need government. And Democrats love giving money away to the poor, because it creates a need. And, boy, have we created a dependency class, and do they give anything back, do they pay any taxes? No. They don't have to file any income taxes. They don't pay a thing. They contribute nothing to this country. They do nothing but take from it. It is serious. It is time to get serious about raising taxes on the poor.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_073108/cont...

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:45 PM
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12. After reading some of the
crap from other DUers today, you are a Blessing. Thank you. Too fucking funny! I love it!


It's up there with the Billionaires for Wealthcare!


I love it...kandr!!!!


A sense of humor is mandatory! :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:45 PM
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13. Max will have his banking lobbyist buddies write a bill for him.
Americans must deposit 13% of their income in a low-interest 10 year CD. Big penalties for early withdrawal and fines for those underachievers (losers) who fail to save the required amounts. After all, banksters need their guaranteed profits too!
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 05:30 PM
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77. Not 13% - they're supposed to deposit 33% -
Everyone knows that a savvy family budgets are supposed to go like this -
A family spends no more than 33% of their income on housing;
the second 33% of income is to pay bills and "discretionary spending"
and 33% to save - not only for retirement, but for things like repairs, future medical issues and college funds...
That's the winning formula for wealth and protection for your olde age...or so I'm told by all the comfortable 2-income middle class workers with "healthy families" I know.


Of course most of them won't tell you how much they have outstanding on Credit Cards and mortgage leveraging. I've found most people don't realize how much interest they are paying until they suddenly find themselves bankrupt because the minimum payments they were making weren't putting enough of a dent on the principle owed.
When a major outlay of funds (repairs, college or retirement) starts looming, there's not been enough paid down on what they already have to be able to knock down those outstanding debts.

Haele
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:52 PM
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14. My Gut Hurts from
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Onionesque!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:57 PM
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17. The up side is that when we're all wealthy, we won't have to pay many taxes!
Especially taxes to help those less fortunate than ourselves! So this really is a win/win solution! Brilliant! :applause:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:04 PM
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19. then we can REALLY end welfare as we know it!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:04 PM
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18. Applause! Applause! By gawd you've solved it! The end of poverty!
The solution was always right there, staring us in the face! You're a GENIUS!!!!1!!1!!!1

We are not worthy...

sw
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:09 PM
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21. That is FUNNY!
Let's end loneliness too

And hunger

And not being tall
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:12 PM
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22. BRILLIANT ... I have never heard a more lucid analogy made yet. KNR nt
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:17 PM
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23. EXCELLENT!!!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:23 PM
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24. Excellent. Bailouts are only for the fat cats.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:55 PM
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26. Ya ...... pretty much.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:06 PM
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27. Kicking -- this wonderful post deserves to be on the front page! (nt)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:33 PM
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28. Well, this IS the only approach Repugs understand ...
so, technically, it's not really satire. :evil:

Want people to do something? Just REQUIRE them to do it! None of this frou-frou, hand-holding, enabling, empowering, cooperation nonsense! No laws making it POSSIBLE -- just REQUIRE it!

Want students to do better? Just pass a law PUNISHING them if they don't! And since Repugs are really into collective punishment, punish the whole school! And if they don't have any of the resources they need to prevent punishment, well, punish them for that! It's the Repug ( = anal retentive, authoritarian control freak ) way!
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:55 PM
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29. Kicking this because I want to. nt
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:17 AM
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31. Darn it!
I missed hyperbole day!

shoot
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:12 AM
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32. Sad thing is that most freepers & GD-P DUers who would agree with those ideas!
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 03:13 AM by earth mom
:crazy:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:03 AM
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35. i guess it's kinda colbert-esque in that way
some people just don't get satire.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:15 AM
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33. kick/rec
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:24 AM
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34. I love this.
Very good satire. K&R.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:27 AM
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36. The preferred ideal re American "reform" = drops to its knees & sucks shit from ass
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:50 AM
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37. K & R. The sad thing is, what we take as a complete joke, the right wing is dead-serious about.
The whole "The Poor should just get JOBS" mantra is about as comical as it is unlikely.

Of course, if a person steadfastly believes that a person's value to the economy and society and their potential success absolutely HAS to be tethered completely to how gainfully they're employed, then they'll think this wack way of thought is unproblematic.

For the rest of us, it's lunacy.

:)
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:57 AM
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38. For crying out loud! What do you mean? In all seriousness, they're
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 07:58 AM by Joe Chi Minh
already doing that. Have been for ages.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:00 AM
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39. Require homeless people to buy homes!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:38 AM
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40. yes! and require the hungry to get food or face fines!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:18 AM
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48. AMAZING! Send that idea to Whitehouse right away! nt
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:54 AM
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41. Fix the housing crisis
Everyone must buy a home or pay a fine! Everyone will use their newly mandated wealth to purchase a McMansion.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:40 AM
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42. haha! Obviously why we've been misbehaving
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 10:40 AM by Why Syzygy
and not carrying adequate health insurance! There's no LAW that makes me!


Write me a ticket! That'll fix me.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:49 AM
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44. well, if you ask the insurers, yeah, that IS the problem
it's all those deadbeat young healthy people choosing not to buy health insurance who are responsible for driving costs up by forcing them to pay for the sick people without healthy people to balance it out.

ask me and that sounds like an argument for a GOVERNMENT mandate, but private insurers see no profit in that! so they push instead for the PRIVATE mandate.


ugh. seriously, would this be the first time in american history that the federal government REQUIRED all americans to buy a PRIVATE good or service or else face a government fine? auto insurance doesn't count, first because the requirement is at the state level, and more importantly because people can avoid it by choosing not to drive or own a car; there are other ways to get around. i'm not aware of a way out of the private mandate in any of the various insurance bills proposed.

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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:37 PM
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64. Let me add: Oh yes ...they want those that are young and healthy.


They are drooling at the prospect like foxes at an unguarded hen house.

It will be like hitting the lottery for them. And it will be like the Dems. are punishing everyone for asking for reform.

It will be hung around our necks and we will drown.

The Dems. could go single payer if they wanted and be in power for the next 20 years.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:50 AM
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45. and a single sentence illuminates a whole like of bull shit
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 10:51 AM by grantcart
edited to ad

I wish you had not used the sarcasm tag, if somebody doesn't get sarcasm at that high high level, I would prefer that they get their panties in a bunch.

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:15 AM
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46. ha ha, i like the idea of a trap for the sarcasm-impaired!
:evilgrin:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:17 AM
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47. Ahh "progressive" thought at it's finest. K&R. nt
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:19 AM
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49. I'll agree to that, but only on the condition that you give me tort reform!!!! nt
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:21 AM
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50. great thread!! k & r.
:rofl:
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jeffbr Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:22 AM
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51. NEXT: Congress to require poor and unemployed to prepay capital gains tax
or face heavy fines
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:23 AM
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52. And NO SUBSIDIZING those people too lazy to become wealthy!
K&R
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:57 PM
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53. So what about all these grandmas lined up for recycling?
Some of us run funeral businesses you know!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:59 PM
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54. Can I get a bailout *before* I make with the financial malfeasance?
It would save a lot of time!
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:35 PM
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56. That's how we get wealthy: bailout. n/t
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:31 PM
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55. Damn, that cuts through the crap. Thanks. K&R nt
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:40 PM
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57. And all the teabagers are nodding....
... in agreement, as they trudge back to the trailer park.

:rofl:





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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:02 PM
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58. Republicans have been pushing the "require everyone to buy health insurance"
line since the Reagan administration. Literally.

I've always said that it makes as much sense as ending homelessness by requiring everyone to buy a house.
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Jon Boston Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:23 PM
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73. Romneycare in Massachusetts
Coming soon for all of America.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:58 PM
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89. Or ending cluelessnes by requiring everyone to buy a clue.
n/t.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:04 PM
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59. Wot?
I thought you were all rich already. I thought America was the richest country in all the world and that everybody was frantic to go an live there. And be "free" too. Isn't that the American dream?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:24 PM
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60. I want to force people to eat vegetables - I think it would be a better health care plan anyway

is that bad?
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:28 PM
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62. The whole spin in MA was that premiums would go down if there was a mandate.


The INS. corps promised...


Instead they jacked rates.. now you have to have it so they have a captive market.

And they did not fully fund the part where they help the poor afford it.

The model is.. as predicted by many.. failing fast... yet they want to do it to the rest of the country.

If the Baucus plan was ever implemented .. which I do not believe it will be.. but if it ever is I have some predictions.


Insurance companies will make *billions* more.
People will continue to have the exact same problems and will pay more.
It will all be blamed on the Dems. and we will be kicked out of power AGAIN.
A lot of Dem voters will give up and stop voting.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:36 PM
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63. You're a visionary...
I'm leaving now to buy lottery tickets with the money I used to spend on my meds & insurance premiums! :yourock:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:38 PM
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65. Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!!!
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:39 PM
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66. 100th rec
And proud to be so!

Romney caRE IN MA sucks - and that's what they're trying to do to the rest of us!
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:01 PM
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67. The kicker is they did it a decade ago and we just didn't notice.
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 03:07 PM by jotsy
Phil Gramm involved himself in some piece of nasty legislation that set in motion a financial services industry free for all, and a few summers later was a series of articles about how the hyper-rich had succeeded in sucking the middle class dry and would be setting their sights on the merely rich, and oh, doesn't it look like that's where we are about now. When banks and other creditors collectively generate tens of billions every year in late charges and overdraft fees, they know who such policies it hurts. It's not the affluent who provided that windfall, it was the folks from the middle to the bottom. When you stop to consider where we stand, in the aftermath of the perfect storm of mortgage meltdowns, recessed economies and an exodus of jobs, is it fair to ask our suppliers of existence why they keep wanting to up the ante.

It seems at times all they really want is for us to feel inadequate, lesser a being than they. How horrible it must be to host so much insecurity that all self worth lies in the ability to push others down, yet somehow view themselves as the cream of the crop, instead of the scourge on society they are.

The corpatocracy is too threaded in every aspect of our lives and their ties to government, and there by, its people, must be severed, and soon.

The first best step? Universal Care. NOW!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:06 PM
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68. Did they find the DNA link to poverty yet -- ???
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:39 PM
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70. Holy cow! Can I share that?
I want to use it for my status on Facebook. I'll give you credit for it.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:02 PM
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71. please do!
or should i say, please du!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:22 PM
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72. Solve the starvation problem by forcing people to buy food or face fines
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:31 PM
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74. Brilliant. I LOVE this mandate solution!
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 04:32 PM by freddie mertz
Maybe we can use it to make everyone smarter, younger, better looking and more considerate too!

Wish I'd thought of it!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 05:07 PM
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75. humanity wastes it's time
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 05:09 PM by undergroundpanther
making believe it has to pay certain wealthy humans to exist.

Fuck them. Fuck the parasite wealthy.
Fuck their scam. They took away our freedom in a game they invented so they could rule the world.Make us think we must be dependant upon this corporate rigged, inhuman, system, play this pretend game, participate in this destructive, psychopathic, anti- humane,planet killing,empathy silencing,traumatizing, soul crushing, deadly, cradle-to-grave delusion ,chains of routine,and collective horrors of lives denied, suppressed,living someone else's dream,believing to be stuck in a rigged scam that we all pretend has to exist in order to survive...THEY LIE.


Do lions Pay rich people to exist, to eat or drink and find shelter?
Do birds, beetles, salamanders sharks or octopus? NO! They pay no greedy rich man for the privilege of being his slave to exist.

They OWE US!!! They steal happiness,self awareness,our lifetimes away from us so we will pay them to exist.They tell us to pay or die.

Maybe it is time to demand the rich pay US or we will take it all back.

But humans they let the rich and psychopaths rule them.We let the inferior humans micromanage our lives and let them make us pay them to exist.
This game we play this system we believe in,makes humans the stupidest creatures on earth and the most destructive..

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 05:08 PM
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76. The Swiss and the German plans are like this.
Methinks it is not that simple. One of those wonky things that take effort to understand. Dull and boring.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:14 PM
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79. i'm very wonky, when i'm not cracking wise.
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 06:15 PM by unblock
methinks there are several things different about swiss & german (and all of europe, for that matter) culture, laws, and society compared to the u.s.

i don't know anything about the swiss & german plans, so please tell me more. not dull and boring at all to me. but i'd lay odds that they aren't structured so as to make people in certain income ranges howl in pain or permit obscene profits by the insurance companies as a result of a captive market with no real controls.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:26 PM
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80. Like the Baucus plan?? nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 05:43 PM
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78. Concise, true and funny,
In a perverse sort of way.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 06:32 PM
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81. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, unblock. :thumbsup:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:06 PM
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82. Spot on
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:09 PM
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83. K & R...
because it makes more sense than what Congress is doing.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:16 PM
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84. The hansomly paid-off Baucus & Conrad by the insurance corporations certainly believe this.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:45 PM
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85. Good God...now Baucus is gonna THINK ABOUT IT!
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:51 PM
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88. If they force me to buy a car, can I at least get a break on the insurance cost?
I haven't driven in about four years due to money woes....what are my chances with that? or do I go to car prison?
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WyoHiker Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:03 PM
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90. K,R, and repost to my FB page
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ptownbro Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:07 PM
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91. Awesome
That definitely was a good one.
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