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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:26 PM
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Does anyone here actually like the Baucus plan?
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 08:29 PM by Kingofalldems
I only know of one DUer, but I don't consider that person one of us. Anyhow, maybe you can convince myself and others how great it is. Thanks.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:26 PM
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1. I don't think anybody *anywhere* likes it.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:27 PM
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3. This.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:27 PM
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4. Insurance executives like it. nt
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:29 PM
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7. OOPS... your response is MUCH better than mine.
Although I don't consider those greedy MF's to be people.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:29 PM
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9. Toosh.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:27 PM
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2. You trying to out the health care industry CEOs on the board?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:28 PM
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5. I like that it is getting . . .
panned almost universally.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:28 PM
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6. don't think so (and btw he's a giant turdball and so is Kent Conrad)
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:37 PM
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12. My first reaction was that someone devised this bill in order to throw
a giant wrench into the process.
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padumdang Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:29 PM
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8. If anyone does, they will probably say so...
:shrug:
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:30 PM
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10. I would except it if they would add a public option.
Either as an amendment or in conference.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:33 PM
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11. Drop the mandates, and its just improvements I wouldn't hate
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:21 PM
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16. Are you fond of the provisions
to charge older people five times what younger people pay?

If so, perhaps we should charge people in their fifties five times as much Social Security tax as folks in their twenties.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:49 AM
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27. Many of them, yes
And whats the current ration set at now for charging premiums based on factors such as age? Pretty sure there isn't one. That doesn't become a rule, but a guideline that you cannot go above. Yes, I think it is set far too high, but, better than nothing (status quo)
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:47 PM
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13. Is there a summary somewhere?
There's much reason to distrust it, but I haven't actually read it.
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:51 PM
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14. I read half of it
but have to wait until morning to finish it. Will take at least that long to get my blood pressure under control.

:mad:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:20 PM
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15. I'm not that familiar with it but I don't like what I've heard about it so far.
When people call something "a gift to the insurance companies" and insurance stocks jump sharply the day it is unveiled, I've gotta believe it's not what I've been looking for.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:22 PM
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17. It sounds like the worst plan ever
...as if he tried not to upset anyone, thus he upset everyone (except his insurance lackey's).
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:24 PM
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18. No
Anything that requires everyone to buy health insurance is a deal breaker.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:25 PM
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19. A DUer is "not one of us"?!1 But I voted to DIVEST FROM SHRUB. I didn't vote for health care. n/t
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:29 PM
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20. Not at all. It's a gift to corporate greed on the backs of dying human beings.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:43 PM
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21. So far only one person likes it----sort of
As long a there is a public option. Not a ringing endorsement.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:45 PM
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22. Well I think it does a good job of opening the way for the Kennedy
bill.
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Milk Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:46 PM
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23. It's awful
It needs to be scuttled in favor of the HELP bill.
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Justicekthx Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:59 PM
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24. Why do we even try to be Bi-partisan
We bend over backward for Republicans and they don't give a damn and will never say we are,if we are worried about uninformed independents the right will just scream we are partisan on there countless media outlets repeating the lie till everyone believes it.

We don't need the republicans there to extreme and will never give us credit no matter what we do to make them happy,we got at least 4 years to get something done for people, I say we do it hell or high water,and we just repeat we tried to be bi partisan but they proved to be obstructionist.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:03 PM
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25. I would love it if someone gave me $3 million
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:11 PM
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26. why was he even ALLOWED to write that bill??? conflict of interests, anyone??


:grr:

he took $3 million dollars in BRIBES from unsurance/"health" corps, for god's sakes!


what total corruption, it pisses me off to no end.

:argh:
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