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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:07 PM
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Ohio police: Woman spanked stranger's toddler son
Ohio police: Woman spanked stranger's toddler son

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

(09-16) 13:28 PDT CINCINNATI (AP) --

A woman took a stranger's toddler son over her knee and spanked him three times inside a Salvation Army store after he said something that annoyed her, police said Wednesday.

Gloria Ballard was arrested on an assault charge in the Tuesday incident. In a court appearance Wednesday, she asked for a public defender and a not guilty plea was entered for her. She was also ordered to stay away from 2-year-old Sean Goode and his mother, Donnay Jones.

Outside court, Ballard denied wrongdoing and said she gave the boy a hug and gently patted his backside because he was upset.

Jones said her son got spanked after Ballard told her she should make him behave.

"She was basically trying to tell me what to do with my son," Jones told WLWT-TV. She told Ballard she would handle her own business and son. Then, she said, Ballard took Sean from her and spanked him, causing him to cry.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/0...


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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:09 PM
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1. if some woman did that to my grandson in front of me
I would throw her through a plate glass window and suffer the consequences. God, I hate people who think they can impose violence on children , and especially other peoples children. I hope this idiot gets jail time. and a huge lawsuit to boot.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:10 PM
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3. I would help you!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:55 PM
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33. Your lawyer could probably make a reasonable case that you were protecting your kid
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 06:56 PM by Hippo_Tron
And you probably wouldn't suffer any consequences other than a bit of hassle.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:00 AM
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62. Bingo. Same goes for the a-hole who smacked the 2 yr old a few weeks back
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:10 PM
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2. Someone needs to bend HER over their knee and spank her...
With a lead cane
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:11 PM
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4. amen!!
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 05:37 PM
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23. and see how SHE likes it!
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:11 PM
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5. ....aaaaaaaaaaand we're off
:popcorn:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:11 PM
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WTF is going on??????
This and the guy who slapped a stranger's toddler in Wal-Mart. Is this country coming unhinged?
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:14 PM
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7. I was thinking the exact same.
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 04:15 PM by Lilyeye
Now people feel justified hitting a strangers child in public? WTH is going on.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:11 PM
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6. What on earth gives these people the right to touch another's child?
I would have broken her fucking arm for touching one of mine.

In two places.




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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:45 PM
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31. They have no right. That's why they get prosecuted for it. nt.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:14 PM
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8. Who does that woman think she is? Goldman Sachs? She can't do whatever she wants. nt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:15 PM
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9. What the fuck is wrong with people?! nt
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:15 PM
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10. I'd have slapped the woman across the face many times. Then again, I am not afraid to discipline my
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 04:16 PM by mamaleah
kids in public, so I wouldn't need to worry about interference from the unbalanced. I never let the armchair parents (most of whom are not parents at all) tell me how to parent. Sorry, a pop on the butt catches a child's attention faster than a 30 minute monologue on NOT running like a wild barbarian through the grocery store.

That all said, I'd have smacked the crap out of some stranger who touched my kids.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:17 PM
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11. That didn't take long!
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 04:17 PM by redqueen
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:21 PM
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13. What? I shouldn't want to smack the crap out of some moron if they touched my kids?
Or is that impolite?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:26 PM
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15. No, this part:
"I never let the armchair parents (most of whom are not parents at all) tell me how to parent. Sorry, a pop on the butt catches a child's attention faster than a 30 minute monologue on NOT running like a wild barbarian through the grocery store"

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone spoke up for spanking on this thread.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:36 PM
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20. Oh.
Well half the parents out there are terrified of even raising their voices at their children in public due to the new "you gotta be your kids buddy first!" crew.

I guess so many of us were terribly abused because we were hollered at or spanked as opposed to put in timeout for 2 minutes. How did we ever survive.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 05:19 PM
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21. Believe it or not,
there are people who don't believe in "being their kids' buddy"--who fully believe kids need PARENTS and LIMITS--who still don't believe in spanking. They find other ways to make their kids behave.

And no, I DON'T mean delivering a 30-minute lecture on why they should behave...I mean, as if that's going to do any good.

*sigh* Why do some people always have to argue in defense of their position by setting up straw men to knock down?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:49 AM
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56. Good question. (nt)
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 09:50 AM by redqueen
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:03 PM
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26. I used to spank occasionally when my kids were little
Just having that tool in my arsenal was enough really. I didn't need to use it often.

The problems that led to the no-spanking philosophy arose because some people spanked all the time, as the only way of disciplining. Inevitably these were people with poor parenting skills overall.

I think the pendulum has gone a little too far. Kids tend to run the households these days, with parents more often pleading with them than guiding them.

Frankly you don't need spanking to fix that, just firmness and consistency. But it is good that a child knows the parent is in charge and will take control if the child gets out of control. It really makes them feel more secure.

Don't blast me because I spanked, by the way. That was the societal norm when I was raising my kids.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:39 PM
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28. Usually just knowing that it's in your tool box
is enough for your kids. I think my mother spanked me twice. The knowledge that she most certainly would if she needed to was enough to make me think twice about pushing her limit.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:42 PM
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52. due to the new "you gotta be your kids buddy first!" crew.
I can remember my mother griping about parents who wanted to be their children's friend 40 years ago.

She made as much sense as you do, btw. lol
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gopiscrap Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 05:59 PM
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25. I was spanked at home and at school til I was 14
it made me think, it made me more respectful and it improved my attitude
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:48 AM
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55. Good for you. The plural of anecdote is *still* not data. (nt)
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gopiscrap Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:30 PM
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66. No I know that, I was just giving a snarky reply
so Spank Me! (kidding)
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 05:39 PM
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24. not the way you think it does
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:36 PM
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43. What makes you think the child was misbehaving?
The article only says the child said something this woman didn't like. That doesn't sound like misbehaving to me.
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Gedankenaustausch Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:19 PM
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48. The mother's quote
"She was basically trying to tell me what to do with my son," Jones told WLWT-TV. She told Ballard she would handle her own business and son." This sounds like the child was misbehaving. If the woman spanked the child for absolutely no reason at all, then she perhaps should be placed in some type of mental care facility: however, I believe that she is only mildly crazy and disciplined the child because he was doing something wrong. Not her place at all though whatever the reason.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:56 AM
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60. Who are you gonna trust? Some bratty kid or an adult who would spank someone else's child?
Yeah... it's funny how people's minds work sometimes.

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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:56 AM
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61. As a parent,
you really think the most efficient solution ("a pop on the butt catches a child's attention faster") is the best one? I learned very quickly after my daughter was born that efficiency was not a realistic goal in raising a child.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:19 PM
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12. So I did some googling on this Gloria Ballard twit, and ran across THIS:
Man slaps a strangers screaming baby in Wal-Mart
"A South Carolina man decided he wasnt going to stand by quietly and allow the child to persist in ruining his otherwise pleasant Wal-Mart shopping experience. After threatening the childs mother, he slapped the 2-year-old girl 'four or five times' across the face.

What the hell is WRONG with people?!?!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:34 PM
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19. an intolerance. an intolerance of all things and people. littlest people are the easiest to take
on.

no surprise here.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:23 PM
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14. Second time now, right?
Wasn't there a story about a week ago where a man slapped a child in a cart? I hope this isn't becoming a trend.

Although there have been plenty of times when I was out shopping that I've seen some very unruly children that were not being properly disciplined at the time by their parent or guardian, I certainly do not think it is appropriate for a stranger to hit a child.

Now...I might say something to the parent or guardian if the child was really, really doing something that was bothering me. I did once, in a theater, ask a father to make his toddler stop pulling my hair. I'd already gone through a series of "stern looks", etc. and believe me, the father knew the child was bothering me and just ignored it. So I felt it necessary to speak up.

When I did speak up, the father acted annoyed with me for daring to say something, but did make the kid stop.

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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:34 PM
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18. Well said!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 05:21 PM
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22. Yeah.
I get pissed off as hell at parents who let their kids run around like little hellions in public, but I would never lay a hand on someone else's kid. Aside from the legal issues, I just wouldn't do it. It's not mine to do. And if I had a kid, I'd break in half any stranger who touched him or her without my permission.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:28 PM
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16. I don't beleive men should hit women
But I would make an exception for a case like this. If she had grabbed my 3 year old daughter and done that I would have slapped her so hard she'd still be shaking. The damned nerve of some people :grr:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:00 PM
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36. I don't think men should hit men either
But if it were my kid I probably would smack the crap out of this person male or female.
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Gedankenaustausch Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:52 PM
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45. I wouldn't have
Battery isn't cool under most circumstances, even in retaliation. No one should ever hit anyone, unless in defense. Maybe you could twist my arm into saying it's the defense of a child... but that's a maybe.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:03 PM
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47. If the person is still beating my child when I hit the person
I think most juries would agree with me that it is in defense of the child.
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RavensChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:40 PM
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51. Amen to that!
Everybody has gone nuts! :wtf:

In fact, I would do this if anyone outside my family hit a child that's not theirs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9UOA8V7u0


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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:56 AM
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59. now THAT is how you clock somebody!
:rofl:

But I gotta know, would you take off your shirt too? :P
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:33 PM
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17. this is a manifestation over the years i have watched with attittude toward children
here on du

i am not at all surprised when i listen to people on du talk about children, that this is a reality in the real world.
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Gedankenaustausch Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:30 PM
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27. Every time a child is spanked, I smile.
well... not really just kidding. Personally, I don't really care if the kid got spanked. I'm sure he was doing something that warranted some discipline. The woman was wrong too, she overstepped her bounds. Battery is never cool! But, I was spanked as a child, I turned out OK (relative term). I don't think it really matters as far as corporal punishment goes with kids. Of course being raised with it, makes me a bit biased. My elementary school and high school also permitted it. Citing information from my parents, who worked at separate school systems, one with corporal punishment and one without, the school that allowed corporal punishment had less discipline problems. Many kids in my school system would ask to receive corporal punishment in spite of their parents writing letters that their child was not to be paddled. Most of the time it was better to take 1-2 licks from the teacher than spend 1-2 days in in-school-suspension.

I don't know what the races of the people involved are but from my experience working in retail years ago, white parents have problems disciplining their children in public. HAHA I've seen kids to the most ridiculous things to their parents just because they know that if they're in public, they will NEVER do anything about it. The parent just looks on in disbelief, shakes their fingers, stomps their foot, says "Wait until we get home," etc. while the child just laughs. It's pretty funny. Black parents have no trouble demonstrating on their kids in public. I've seen black parents put down some serious discipline in the grocery store. I have always wondered why the difference? I hope my racial comments aren't interpreted as racist.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:42 PM
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29. It's up to the parent to discipline the child.
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 06:43 PM by moriah
I work in the retail industry too -- if a child is causing enough of a disturbance that a stranger is justified in taking discipline into their own hands, the retail establishment should have had one of their employees escort the parent and child out of the building if the parent couldn't or wouldn't take steps to control their child. If the kid's behavior is really causing that much of a problem, it should be an easy decision for the retail establishment to make. And if the stranger had such a problem with it, they could have gone to store personnel to have that done.

Never lay hands on another person's child, especially in anger. Never.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:51 PM
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32. Perhaps it is a cultural thing
In black communities perhaps the 'right' way to do it is to be more strict.

I suspect among the upper middle class whites, the norm is to be as permissive as possible while still keeping your kids from playing in the streets.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:00 PM
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35. I agree.
I tend to notice many more poorly behaved white children than African American or Latino children.

To be honest, even common politeness is lacking from your average upper middleclass white child. Please and thank you are dying out.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:09 PM
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54. What a load of crap.
I've worked retail for a large department store, and trust me, bad behavior is color-blind. The children were often little beasts (not all, but many). I blame the parents, who did very little disciplining and let them run amok.
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Gedankenaustausch Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:30 PM
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64. Interesting
I'm glad that your department store was just a great little colorblind haven of racial equality. But, I can say your story is a "load of crap" just as easily as you can say mine is. Let's not straw-man here. If you want to attack something, don't let it be an account of what I observed in my 9 years of retail work.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:06 PM
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37. Let me suggest an alternate view
shared with me by a white woman who learned it from the African American teen mom of triplets she was "mentoring": African American parents know their child's survival may well depend on their being able to "behave" and on being able to take abuse without responding at all, or particularly without responding in anger.

It is not necessarily so much a matter of discipline as it is of combat training to ensure that their children can project an polite, perhaps even deprecating aura when being disciplined - even harshly - that will keep them from getting shot, arrested, or beat up by racist whites looking for any "justification" to do so.

Unfortunately, that explanation rings true to me.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:11 PM
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38. you turned out ok? I don't really care if the kid got spanked. I'm sure he was doing something
you dont have a clue. kids could have done nothing. without any info, or knowledge, you are just sure the child deserved it. trusting the stranger adult who would spank a child that was not her own. that is the person you trust that the child must have done something to deserve to be spanked

and you turned out ok?
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Gedankenaustausch Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:22 PM
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39. how rude
and you turned out ok? at least I didn't attack anyone. Seems like your the one with a propensity for violence.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:31 PM
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41. if this is how you judge.... that is attack? seriously, reflect
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 07:32 PM by seabeyond
why does it put a smile a child is spanked.

why would you just assume the child deserved it, when it is a stranger that made that decision. a stranger that already shows that she is not capable of reasonable thinking, that she felt she had the right to spank someone elses child

you think this is reasonable thinking on your part?

and i really gotta challenge you that you are seeing kids "laugh" in their parents face. in all my years, i have never witnessed it, but you imply you have seen it more than once
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Gedankenaustausch Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:49 PM
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44. I seriously can't make out what your saying.
"if this is how you judge... that is attack?" "why does it put a smile a child is spanked." I don't know what these mean... I'll guess that the second question your asking why it puts a smile on my face? if that's the question, you should read the beginning when I said that I wasn't being serious. I really can't tell what the first thing says, sorry. The parent made it seem that the child was misbehaving "She told Ballard she would handle her own business and son." I took that as in I will do my own disciplining, so yeah from that it would REASONABLY follow that the child did something to warrant discipline. So yeah, I think that's reasonable thinking on my part. And to answer the last part, yes I have seen it many times... my favorite was this time a kid ripped open a bag of pasta and started waving the bag around and pasta was going everywhere, the parent tried her best to be stern with the child explaining that it was bad while he was laughing saying things back to her challenging her authority etc., then the lady was trying to pick the pasta up, as the son outright refused, while the child grabbed another bag off the shelf and did the same thing all while laughing at her. He was maybe 10 or so. My favorite kid story doesn't really involve misbehavior but it's really funny. A girl, probably 4 or so, points to a black woman and says, "Look mommy! A black person!" The comment wasn't as funny as the look of horror on the mother's face. hahaha, sometimes I miss retail. And I'm so glad that you have worked in a place where the kids are so well behaved!
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RavensChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:47 PM
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53. It's not.
In fact, I'll add to that: As a Black woman, I can tell you that the way these kids are acting up now would NOT have been tolerated back in the day when I was growing up. My mom always said this to me before we left the house--"No embarrassing moments!", and trust me when I tell you, she meant that! All I had to do was one tiny little thing she considered out of line, and she would let me have it in the store, in the car, and back home, with a 2 x 4 as her weapon of choice! I did it once to my recollection and I never, ever, EVER acted up again!

I turned out OK too, so whenever I see kids acting up I say nothing. In fact, I go the other way lest I am tempted to go off.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:52 AM
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57. Wow.
Just... wow.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:34 PM
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42. Please don't use the word bitch. Thanks.
Although I'm male (and I assume you are female from your username), I'm sure there are lots of females who agree with me.


Words that are gender neutral like "asshole" or "jackass" are better.
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Gedankenaustausch Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:59 PM
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46. I thought about trying to upstage your civility and political correctness
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 08:00 PM by Gedankenaustausch
by saying that you also shouldn't say "asshole" or "jackass" because words like that show your inability to express yourself esp. when it comes to adjectives. And yes I will attempt to do it. J/K :p
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:56 PM
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34. So according to the defendant, she didn't beat the child
She just molested the child.

:wtf:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:29 PM
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40. That's what I was thinking.
WTF
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:30 PM
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49. Touch somebody else's kid...
Of course, you know that this means war
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:32 PM
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50. Arrest her for assault, I'd bet after 5 years in prison she wouldn't do it again.
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:52 AM
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58. there are a lot of angry misdirected people in the world
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:23 AM
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63. I would have spanked Ballard
a bit in return.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:14 PM
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65. If it's true she should be prosecuted for assault and battery. Children are people.
And just like other people, they have the right to go about in public without fear of being assaulted by other people, for any reason.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:32 PM
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67. So.. if someone else does it, it's assault... but if the parent does it...
it's... what? Acceptable cause it's tradition?

I imagine many pro-spankers here might not want for this incident to be called assault. Smacking the 2-year-old across the face, sure... cause nobody would defend that... but plenty would defend spanking.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 02:59 AM
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68. It feels like you are attacking me. I don't kow why, so if I need to clarify a post please tell me
I don't want to be misunderstood.

I am shocked by the way these cases are often handled as though the child were a poodle or a parakeet, "misbehaving" while their "owners" refuse to keep them in line.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:58 AM
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69. Gosh no, sorry...
it's just that when I read your post it struck me, the disconnect re: 'assault'.

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