Here are the "dissenting" voters on the House's Wilson admonishment:

[JBoy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/15/joe-wilson-resolution-of-_n_287616.html

DEMS NO
Arcuri
Delahunt
Giffords
Hinchey
Hodes
Kucinich
Maffei
Massa
McDermott
Moore (WI)
Taylor
Teague

REPUBS YEA
Cao
Emerson
Flake
Inglis
Jones
Petri
Rohrabacher

DEMS PRESENT
Engel
Foster
Frank (MA)
Shea-Porter
Skelton

[gratuitous]

1. Kucinich and McDermott "nay"?

Thank you, sir; may I have another?

[wryter2000]

2. Kucinich and Rohrabaker are surprises

I'm sure Dennis had some reason, but I can't figure out what. I would never have expected Rohrabaker to do the right thing.

[intheflow]

7. And why wouldn't Barney Frank take a stand?

Instead he just voted "Present." :shrug:

[Liquorice]

33. Barney Frank said he didn't want to be in charge of monitoring

other people's behavior. In Newseek, he is quoted as saying, “I think it’s bad precedent to put us in charge of deciding whether people act like jerks,” Frank said. “I don’t have time to monitor everyone’s civility.”
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/09/15/joe-wilson-vote-house-censure.aspx

[intheflow]

42. Thanks.

That explains it and it certainly sounds like Frank! :)

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. Dennis wanted full censure.

[Posteritatis]

23. What's the difference between that and admonishment? (nt)

[wryter2000]

43. Okay

I figured it had to be something like that. :hi:

[WorseBeforeBetter]

3. Rohrabacher YEA?! Wow. (n/t)

[Ruby the Liberal]

18. There shouldn't have been a debate about this, IMO

It was a point of order and decorum, not policy.

[bvar22]

34. I agree.

There are Life & Death issues that NEED to be addressed.
Debating and voting on whether the congressman from SC is an asshole is a complete waste of time and has a HIGH potential for unintended consequences....like making him a martyr for the Right Wing crazies.

[stray cat]

4. Kucinich is a traitor, a blug dog DLCer, a conservative we should kick out of the party!

He is a progressive in name only :sarcasm:

Clearly some progressives can disagree with some DUers and still be a progressive. We kick people out of our party for diverse opinions at our peril

[AllyCat]

26. hee hee...good one cat!

[AuntPatsy]

29. ;-)

[BR_Parkway]

5. Well, it does make the "it was a partisan vote" claim total BS - maybe

they wanted it that way rather than lockstep

[tridim]

6. DK has lost it.

He's such a disappointment lately. I bet he votes no on HCR too.

[NightWatcher]

12. lost it? maybe he thought the whole affair was a waste of time

[seabeyond]

13. ya. so vote against it. wtf..... nt

[tridim]

15. Well that is disappointing IMO.

House rules and decorum are important.

[sofa king]

31. He usually offers up an explanation for his votes.

But I just looked his site over and can't see one yet.

For all I know, he might have voted against a rebuke because he was in favor of something more severe.

[AllyCat]

25. He should vote no on HCR if it looks like the packages coming out of the Senate

or the one Obama outlined! God I hope most of them vote no!!

I can't stand Wilson's actions, but I thought this kind of thing was a waste of time for MoveOn, and everyone else when they did it. Now we have to go through it with this clown.

[Chemisse]

8. I am hoping/assuming they voted against it on principle

Thinking they should not be in the business of regulating behavior on the floor of the House.

Just as I am assuming the crossover Republicans were unhappy with the breaking of long-established rules and disrespect to the office of president.

It would be nice to believe people actually vote for what they believe is right.

[Ruby the Liberal]

19. Whose role is it to regulate house decorum rules if not the house?

[Statistical]

22. How many people receive a resolution when some (not sure how many) members of Congress booed Bush.

I remember it in 2004 or 2005 and Bush was lying about Social Security being bankrupt by 2040. I remember it because I laughed at it at the time. In hindsight it likely wasn't all that proper.

It was more a jumbled of voices like an angry mob than a single clear LIAR but the intent was still the same. They believed Bush was lying about SS going bankrupt in 2040.

[Ruby the Liberal]

28. I can appreciate your argument,

but booing/clapping is one thing. Heckling is another - especially when decorum rules SPECIFICALLY call out "liar" and "hypocrite".

If the gentlemen and gentlewomen of Congress want to remove that language from decorum rules, then we can chat. As for today, the ink is dry.

[Statistical]

32. Well I won't shed a tear for Wilson.... I think he is already paying the larger price.

The million dollars his almost bankrupt competitor raised as a result of his stupidity likely has given him an ulcer.

I just think all this gnashing of teeth about disrespect when the same thing happened to Shrub to be just a little to rich for me.

When he have major issues unresolved it seems like a little thing to arrange some public theater for the masses. Hey look over here we "spanked Wilson" hopefully this spanking makes your forget about all the promises we are breaking.

[Ruby the Liberal]

36. You are aware that Wilson has also raised over $1mm?

I was an active member here in 2002-4. Proud Deaniac with no recollection as to my username or what email I used. I know my post count isn't high after rejoining post-lay-off, but you appear to me to be what I remember as the devil's advocate and/or concern troll. Naderite by chance or party purist?

If I am wrong, I apologize in advance.

:hi:

[Statistical]

40. No need to appologize about your feelings if that if what you feel.

I wasn't aware he raised $1 mil I only followed the actblue thread. If true that is bad news looks like it is a net neutral (he raises $1 mil, Act Blue raises almost a mil).

concerned troll? Not really, I just see it as politics as usual. Maybe naive but I hoped that we would see less politics as usual after Obama got elected.

I am hardly a party purist. My stance of capitalism and gun rights got be ejected from that club. :)

[Ruby the Liberal]

41. CNN had it headline yesterday.

:/

I long for another job. As much as I like DU, I am a better lurker. It is better for my blood pressure. :)

[Chemisse]

30. I heard a democrat arguing that point this morning on the radio

It was Barney Frank.

[Ruby the Liberal]

37. Posted elsewhere, in response to his 'present' vote, he was against

persuing the rules. Disconnect?

I am a fan of Barney, but I don't get that.

[Chemisse]

38. I don't agree with it, but I can respect that he just didn't like the idea

I love independent thinking, even when I don't agree with it.

[Ruby the Liberal]

39. Cheers

:toast:

[Posteritatis]

27. Er, the House *is* in the business of regulating the House's behavior. (nt)

[Warpy]

9. I think Kucinich and Frank probably thought it

should have been called what it is: CENSURE.

Either that or they're working with some of the conservatives on bills and need their support.

[seabeyond]

11. Kucinich???? bah hahaha. now what is du gonna do. lol. nt

[rucky]

14. The DK vote seems consistent to me.

What if it were a Dem shouting the same thing during a Bush address?

[Ruby the Liberal]

20. I would want censure. This isn't partisan, it is about house rules.

[rucky]

21. My thoughts are that it's a silly rule.

I want to see decorum break down when someone's being a chickenshit - or actually lying. We put up with too much shit because of "house rules"

[Ruby the Liberal]

24. The British actually have mikes from the ceiling for their rowdy debates

I have seen some hilarious videos over the years. :D

That isn't our system though. We hold the house in a status of dignity, and regardless of party/topic - I kinda like it.

If no censure on this - what kind of scene will the SoTU produce from Representative Birther and Senator Teabagger (to be named at a later date)?

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Jeff Flake yea?

Wow. :rofl:

[CBR]

17. I wonder if DK's constituents would agree with his vote? nt

[madrchsod]

35. foster is going up against fat denny the fixer`s kid

i can see why he did`t want to vote for or against censure. it`s going to be a really tight race in the illinois 14th

[Forkboy]

44. Am I the only one who doesn't care which way this vote went?

I can think of a dozen things off the top of my head I'd rather seen this time and energy spent on.