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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:46 PM
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Some fear GOP is being carried to the extreme
Some fear GOP is being carried to the extreme
The Republican establishment hopes cooler heads will prevail over strongly anti-Obama parts of the conservative base.

By Peter Wallsten
September 14, 2009



Reporting from Washington - Amid a rebirth of conservative activism that could help Republicans win elections next year, some party insiders now fear that extreme rhetoric and conspiracy theories coming from the angry reaches of the conservative base are undermining the GOP's broader credibility and casting it as the party of the paranoid.

Such insiders point to theories running rampant on the Internet, such as the idea that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus ineligible to be president, or that he is a communist, or that his allies want to set up Nazi-like detention camps for political opponents. Those theories, the insiders say, have stoked the GOP base and have created a "purist" climate in which a figure such as Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) is lionized for his "You lie!" outburst last week when Obama addressed Congress.

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In one symbolic development, organizers of next year's Conservative Political Action Conference -- the country's biggest annual meeting of activists on the right -- said last week that they had rejected a request to schedule a panel on whether Obama was a native-born U.S. citizen.

"It would fill a room," said event director Lisa De Pasquale. "But so would a two-headed monkey. There really are so many more important issues, and it's only a three-day conference."

CPAC officials said WorldNetDaily's Farah asked the group to hold the panel.

The CPAC decision came after Washington GOP strategist Jon Henke began a campaign against WorldNetDaily, which has published numerous articles giving credence to the birthplace issue and other allegations against the Obama administration.

WorldNetDaily is also soliciting signatures and e-mail addresses for a petition calling on "any and all controlling legal authorities in this matter" to examine Obama's birth certificate.

One WorldNetDaily article, which Henke called “hideously embarrassing” to conservatives, said that a Democratic proposal to create civilian emergency centers at military installations "appears designed to create the type of detention center that those concerned about use of the military in domestic affairs fear could be used as concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany."

Henke said, "There is a substantial discomfort among the people who want to make intellectual arguments and want to have a substantive role in the debate." He compared the Obama birth theorists to those who said Obama's healthcare overhaul would create "death panels."

" 'Death panels' is not a substantive contribution to the discussion. It's a cartoon," he said.

more...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gop-fringe14-2009sep14,0,5000500,full.story
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:48 PM
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1. if i were a true conservative, these yahoos, palin, wilson, would scare the shit out of me
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:54 PM
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2. Their base has been batshit crazy for decades and they're only now getting concerned?
:shrug:
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:07 PM
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9. Boggles the mind
Anyone that has been paying attention understands that there has been a takeover of their party. Did they not notice this during the Terry Shavio fiasco? As you said it has been in the making for decades. You are not going to tell me they had no idea that this was happening.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:59 PM
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3. They're paying for Reagan's success
in bringing the country's lunatics into the fold to create a huge voting base for that party. He made a deal with the devil, basically.

As has happened to the small, Hamiltonian parties twice before, the devil has taken control. Conservatives who found Reagan's false folksiness and anti social program rhetoric endearing aren't responding quite as well to it when it's carried to the extreme by the extremists he courted.

The party survived the southern bigots that Nixon courted. It doesn't seem capable of surviving the coalition of the stupid and the religiously insane that Reagan courted.

The only hope the Republicans have as a party is if the religiously insane, realizing they've been used for years, get disgusted enough to form their own party.

Since that hasn't happened already, I doubt that it will. The vestiges of the Republican Party will continue to sputter along for a few years, but they're finished. Unable to get elected to anything without the nutcase base, they will be incapable of ejecting it.

No party that is extremist can last for long as anything but a powerless fringe element.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:01 PM
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4. looks like their propoganda (Faux et al) is comming home to roost
May they look like the staggering idiots they are
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:02 PM
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5. GOP = Goobers On PCP n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:04 PM
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6. it's about time they figured this one out
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:04 PM
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7. They are no longer the GOP, they are racist Dixiecrats and they're
humiliating themselves.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:04 PM
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8. Their fears have been realized
actually - they've been going more & more extreme the past 30 years or so...
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:08 PM
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10. They are propagandizing themselves into oblivion. (nt)
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:14 PM
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11. What scares me is that the republicans are moving into the Democratic Party.
And this is not good. They are shifting the party to the right.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:14 PM
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12. Carried by whom?
They are responsible for themselves and it's time those people with influence did something to curb the frenzy they've caused. Still, you and I have heard limpballs and blecccck and we haven't become raving lunatics. It's something in the conservative blood... maybe "dumbassedness".
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:17 PM
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13. Impossible! How could they be carried to where they already are?
Earth to moderate Republicans: you don't have a party anymore. You need to find, or create, another one.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:24 PM
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14. the headline literally made me laugh
talk about an understatement.
i'll read it now. :)
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:39 PM
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15. Hell, a 2-headed monkey could be the GOP Presidential Candidate!!!
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 04:24 PM
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20. Makes sense
the last GOP president was a one headed monkey so it's a natural progression.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:44 PM
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16. "Being carried"? Bosh!
They disappeared over Mount Crazy quite some time ago. It's only now that a handful of their movers and shakers have noticed that they're sitting in the middle of a not very well-run asylum. "Hideously embarrassing" and "cartoons"? Gee, Republican big wheels, welcome to our world, where we had to watch an incompetent administration lie its way into not one but two illegal invasions, and then bitch at us that we were traitors for not joining them in their murder-suicide pact with the Constitution.

But now that the GOP is all concerned and stuff at last, they could perform immeasurable service by getting the hell out of the way and letting the grown-ups clean up their mess. Again.
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makeanoise Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 02:55 PM
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17. Never thought I'd say this BUT....
good for CPAC!

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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 03:29 PM
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18. Republicans are the party of the neo-nazis.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 03:32 PM
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19. "But so would a two-headed monkey". I know how she meant that BUT Face>Palm
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