Has any body seen any debunking of the Acorn Prostitution Story?

[el_bryanto]

For those who don't know there's a video clip of a guy visiting Acorn offices and asking them for help in setting up a prostitution business, which they gladly provide, even when he tells them he is bring up 13 year olds from El Salvador to turn tricks as well. It stinks like last Tuesday's Cod Special to me, but I am wondering if anybody has seen it debunked yet - it just popped today (suspicious timing as well).

Here's Fox News coverage of it --> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548827,00.html?test=latestnews

Fox News seems to be the closest thing to a reputable news organization touching it fo now.

Bryant

[Warpy]

1. Pox is not a credible news source

It is a reputable one, but that reputation is lousy.

I expect to see a few lawsuits coming out of this one. Obviously it was a an over the top joke tape that some credulous idiot took seriously.

Give this the dead fish test. It will start to stink within 3 days.

[el_bryanto]

2. It stinks already; but I want to see it debunked sooner rather than later n/t

[TxRider]

41. Now it's DC Acorn offices as well, 2nd video

http://84rules.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/a-second-set-of-videos-exposing-acorn/

[politicalmama]

3. Has any body seen any debunking of the Acorn Prostitution Story?

AP is reporting that the two ACORN employees have just been fired. So looks like the story is valid. Sad. Scary to watch these ladies acting like sex traffiking of 14 year olds from Central America is a legit business -- and offer tax advice to declare them as "dependants." : (

[mitchum]

4. Wow, thanks for signing up just to post your "concerns"

[politicalmama]

5. Sorry...

I thought this was an open forum. Doesn't this story concern you?

[mitchum]

7. They were agent provocateurs and ACORN fired them for inappropriate actions...

is that not the end of the story?
What does alleged child rapist and murderer Glenn Beck have to say about the story?

[yawnmaster]

8. I don't think that is the end of the story eom

[mitchum]

10. Why?

[yawnmaster]

13. because of the seriousness of what the acorn employees did. eom

[Barack_America]

14. Serious? How?

Giving advice that likely could have been found on the internet?

Please tell me what laws were broken.

[yawnmaster]

18. didn't say any laws were broken...

but there may have been...
I do find it serious when someone would not try to discourage someone from bringing in 14 year olds and putting them into prostitution, and actually assists them with ways of doing it.

[Barack_America]

20. Serious, possibly. Stupid, definitely.

I watched one video on youtube and all of the questions that were supposedly asked of the women were dubbed over.

That did not build my confidence that the people making these claims are honest.

[yawnmaster]

22. and thats another reason why its not end of story...

there may be some debunking (or validation) needed.
either way, I don't think we've heard the end of this.

[mitchum]

15. Uh...they are ACORN ex-employees now

It's not as if the organization hugged them to its fucking bosom, ya know

[el_bryanto]

12. Do you have a link on that AP story?

Can you confirm it is the same two?

Bryant

[politicalmama]

30. Link to AP story

Here's the link to the AP story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hA9b96qgu9MG_331xFUGcYvhOcLAD9AKORB81

It seems to be the same two people from the article.

[Barack_America]

6. I'm still waiting for debunking of the rumor Glenn Beck...

...you know the rest.

[mitchum]

9. Was it the story about Glenn Beck raping and killing a boy?

There are so many stories about things he may have done
it can get rather confusing

[Barack_America]

16. Yeah that one.

There's going to be good troll watching in this thread.

:popcorn:

[Capn Sunshine]

33. I think it was the one about Glen Beck raping and killing a girl in 1990

but I could be mistaken

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

11. I'm saddened that someone was that stupid to fall for a pathetic modern day minstrel show

The person should have been fired for being an incompetent, the actors participating should be ashamed of themselves, and of course a scumbag like Andrew Breitbart is behind most of it.

[politicalmama]

17. ???

I'm a graduate of the Missouri School of Journalism (granted -- back in the day...) but we LIVED for investugative reporting like this. I won an award from the Missouri Broadcasting Association for a similar undercover story about arson. I think your anger against the reporters is misplaced.

[Barack_America]

19. It's a bad idea to reveal personally identifiable information on a site you're trolling on.

Internet 101.

[yawnmaster]

may be true, but that doesn't invalidate her statement about journalism. eom

[Barack_America]

23. Consider it helpful advice.

And what does her point about journalism count for anyway? She's responding to someone who responded to the OP, not to her. So what's with this "I'm a journalist" charge out of the blue???

There are a ton of people with journalism degrees running around Washington and look at the shit they call "news".

[yawnmaster]

24. what does anyone's point about anything count for? eom

[Capn Sunshine]

34. you mean "investugative reporting "

Yeah, those journos would be all over this ginned up tale from the darkside

[politicalmama]

25. Maybe I'm just too old...

... but is this supposed to be a threat? And -- let me get this straight -- is this story about offering advice to set up a brothel for traffiking teenage girls not even the LEAST bit upsetting to you??????

BTW -- do you have any children??? Yikes!

And I'm not sure what "trolling" is -- but I like to read a variety of opinions. I have definitely learned a lot in FIVE MINUTES that I certainly wish I hadn't.

BTW - I supported Obama. I couldn't stand McCain. I guess I better head under the bridge. Sheesh!

[Barack_America]

26. No, no. Not a threat at all.

Just be careful of how much personal information you reveal. The sorts of things you revealed are potentially googleable.

[marketcrazy1]

27. I just took a look at the article

if all these quotes are true then this is one of the most disgusting things i have ever heard of!... if true these "staffers" should be in jail!! these two assholes just started a shit storm!!. I believe, hope ( and pray ) this is an isolated incident.....

[politicalmama]

28. Why would someone want to Google me?

I'm just someone who thinks sex traffiking of teenage girls is not a legitimate bussiness -- and listening to someone trying to come up with a tax code "performing artist" is just creepy. WHY would someone want to attack me for this position? Am I missing something?

[Barack_America]

29. *sigh* nevermind.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

21. Calling one of the characters "Kenya"?

So clever. Such great journalism. We get the "wink, wink, nod, nod" deal here.

[drm604]

40. If you want people on here to take you seriously then you should at least enable your profile.

This isn't investigative journalism, it's entrapment. If you try the stunt at enough offices you're bound to eventually find one or two idiots who will go along with it and give advice.

The idea that this is Acorn policy is simply ludicrous. They have nothing to gain by giving out this kind of advice and everything to lose. One or two isolated amoral idiots who fall into a trap doesn't prove anything. At worst it may indicate a problem with hiring practices at some Acorn offices.

[HughMoran]

31. Woohoo! Let's party baby!

WTF is your purpose here anyway?

[el_bryanto]

32. My purpose?

I heard this rumor on Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and thought it very damning if true, but also assumed it wasn't true because it seemed unbelievable.

Bryant

[HughMoran]

36. You listen to Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh??

Wow, you are in the wrong place.

[tammywammy]

37. Have you never seen threads here where people said "OMG Rush said blah blah blah"

There's a lot of democrats that listen to Beck and Rush. I don't, but even I heard this story on a local radio show on my drive home tonight.

[HughMoran]

38. Well, I heard two people were fired

So what - this kind of shit happens every day. Unlike the O/P, I'm not saying this group is "close" to President Obama. This person is basically stirring up right-wing talking points.

[el_bryanto]

39. Not that you care, but a few points

1. I listen to and read right wingers because I have a blog in which I criticize right wingers; hard to do it without reading them.

2. I am assuming that this story has legs, unfortunately. It seems very fishy to me and I want to see it taken apart - I looked around and couldn't see anything but being at work couldn't look around that much.

Bryant

[solinvictus]

35. Yeah....

... nothing to see here; just a "community organization" giving advice on tax evasion, child prostitution, dodging truant and immigration officers, etc. I guess my point is what the hell is wrong with all of us if we try to push this off? Come on; we raised hell about Jeff Gannon and Tom Foley, but we're downplaying an organization that is close to the President giving advice on setting up a child brothel??!!??

[drm604]

42. Yes we're downplaying it.

How many Acorn offices did they visit before they found one or two idiots who would actually give them advice?

It's ridiculous to believe that giving this kind of advice is Acorn policy. They'd have nothing to gain by giving such advice, and everything to lose.