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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:05 PM
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Too Many Morons
Geezus, it's getting difficult to read for all the idiots screaming their collective asses off about bullshit. The most fucking annoying part is that they won't listen to facts. You can show them all the studies and bills you want and they'll still believe what they want to believe. Here, morons, try and get these through your thick fucking heads:

There are no death panels. That was never in the fucking bill. There was a provision to pay doctors for having the discussion about end of life care that all of us will one day need to have but there is not and never will be some panel deciding on your productivity. That story you keep spouting about being sentanced to die on the NHS is bullshit. It's talking about a fucking dispute between doctors over when someone should be diagnosed as terminally ill. It's not a fucking Sword of Damocles hanging over your head, it's a discussion about the best way of caring for people. No, illegal immigrants will not be covered under the healthcare bill. I don't give a shit what Rush told you or what Glenn Beck is beaming into your fucking head today. Standing law prohibits illegal immigrants from being part of any federal healthcare plan and the only section of the bill that could be wilfully misinterpreted to apply to illegal immigrants has a proviso specifically saying that they won't be covered (pg 143). No, it will not fund abortions. Whether it should is a different matter but it won't.

Come on, just fucking think about this for a damn second. The people voting on this bill have to get re-elected, some of them soon. Do you really think that if they voted for a fucking bill which "pulled the plug on granma", they'd get re-elected? Of course they fucking wouldn't. And knowing that, why the blue fuck would they vote for it? Why are you willing to believe any shit about Democrats when you would have a shit fit if this had been said about your guys? I didn't like McCain but there's no fucking way I would have said he supported a "death panel" or killing off your elderly relatives. McCain has his faults but that isn't one of them. And yet, you scumbags will swallow any fucking thing if it's said about Obama. You're the morons who actually believe that pro-choicers just know that the foetus inside them is an innocent baby and want to murder it anyway. You don't want a "government beauracrat" to get between you and your doctor, which isn't in the fucking bill anyway, but you'll happily support one getting between a pregnant woman and her doctor. Where's your fucking concern for patient autonomy then? Where was it during the Terri Schiavo fiasco?

No, Obama is not a fucking socialist. Socialism's defining aim is collective ownership of the means of production and distribution. Taking equity in a piddling percentage of the business sphere in exchange for saving your collosal banks is not fucking socialism. No, it's not fucking communism either. The fucking right-wing has so corrupted the words that people don't know what they fucking mean anymore. The objective of communism was to institute a collectivist anarchy. Arguing that expanding government makes you a socialist or communist is fucking inane, it's directly counter to the aims of both ideaologies. And no, I know that's not what the USSR ended up with. That's why their version is called "Soviet Communism". They tried for communism, failed and ended up with soviet communism. All fucking clear now? No, Obama isn't a fascist either. Fascism isn't just a nasty fucking word, it's a specific set of principles. He's not marching people around or glorifying the military or ruling by dictate, no matter what drivel you hear on the radio. And for fuck's sake, don't call him both a fascist and a socialist. The two ideaologies are in direct opposition. Crack a fucking book and learn what the words mean.

ACORN is not a fucking boogeyman. They paid people to register voters. Some of those people put down fictional characters to pad their pay. ACORN was defrauded of the money and reported them itself but Mickey Mouse didn't turn up to fucking vote. ACORN was the victim you fucking imbeciles. But while we're on the subject of vote irregularities, can we count on your support to ban those fucking voting machines?

Stop listening to Glenn Beck, the man is fucking certifiable. He is suffering a psychotic break from reality and desperately needs help. Did you catch his little architectural art critique? The man is out of his fucking mind. In fact, stop watching FOX entirely, they're just lying to you and no, you're not bright enough to know teh difference. And while we're on the subject: Mr President, stop letting your people resign when Beck is attacking them, it makes it look like you're afraid of this fucking maniac.

People, the corporation is not your fucking friend. The corporation does not care about you. The corporation cares only about money. If it is more profitable to help you live, they'll do that. If it's more profitable to take your premiums for years and then cut you off at the first sign of trouble, they'll do that. If it was more profitable to rape you to death with a broken bottle, they'd do that too. The corporation will do whatever it takes to make a profit. Do not trust the corporation, their only objective is to move your money from your pocket to theirs and if they can find any possible way to do so without providing anything for it, you can guar-en-fucking-tee that they will use it.

Oh, and finally, you DON'T have the best healthcare in the fucking world. Stop believing the bullshit blown up your ass by those who wrap themselves in the flag while they pick your pocket. You might well have the best doctors in the world but in every way that can be measured, your actual healthcare outcomes are pretty fucking pitiful and you're presenting the bullshit arguement that because the NHS has problems, the only alternative is to do nothing. The NHS does have problems but it's a fuck load better than what you have now. And you're not being offered an NHS-style option anyway. For fuck's sake, the bill is about reforming health insurance and you act like you're being offered Soylent Green.

Grow the fuck up. The adults are in charge now and it would be nice to have conservatives contribute to the discussion again.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:10 PM
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1. An Excellent And Apt Rant, Sir!
"By definition, half the public is below average intelligence."
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:15 PM
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2. Thank you, sir!
That half do make an awful lot of noise though.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:16 PM
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3. Absolutely.
You said so many of the things I've been saying and thinking lately. Definitely going to pass this one around!!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:21 PM
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5. Please do! n/t
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:18 PM
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4. excellent
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:39 PM
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6. Great rant! n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:41 PM
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7. oh that is some good stuff.
You mind if I link this to Twitter?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:46 PM
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8. Go right ahead
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 02:47 PM by Prophet 451
I've never cared about attribution, just that the ideas get out there.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:50 PM
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9. And, many of the problems in the NHS
have been the result of greater private sector involvement in some of its functions. For example, it is often criticised for some of its dirty hospitals. Well guess what, cleaning services were contracted out to the private sector who pay their staff a pittance. Once upon a time cleaning was done by ward sisters employed by the NHS itself, and standards were a lot better. Moreover, nowadays hospitals are run by chief executives who are little more than glorified accountants who know nothing about medicine. (Rather like insurance companies are, I suppose). And the funding problems in the NHS might be in no small part down to the Private Finance Initiative whereby hospitals are built by the private sector and then leased to the NHS at exorbitant rates and tying them down for long periods; invariably PFI deals provide much worse value for money than direct state investment, but the government likes it because it keeps the government debt off the books.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:09 PM
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10. Absolutely
A lot of it is also down to Thatcher (and, to a lesser extent, Major and Blair) deliberately and massively underfunding the NHS so they could cut taxes beyond bare-bones level (and, in Thatcher's case, in hopes that people would grow to hate it and she could abolish it).
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:02 PM
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15. Good rant, by the way.
It was a good read. :thumbsup:
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:25 AM
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20. Cheers n/t
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:21 PM
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11. EXCELLENT! I bow before the awesomeness of this rant.
:kick:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:24 PM
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12. Fucking K&R
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:39 PM
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13. Great rant.
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:41 PM
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14. Preach it, brother!
signed





The choir

:-)
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:05 PM
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16. Righteous my friend
Tell it.

:fistbump:
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:45 PM
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17. ***APPLAUSE!*** nt.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:17 PM
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18. Oh yeah?! That's just shows how much YOU know! Yore SO STUPID! Yore a MORAN!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:29 AM
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19. What a maroon!
Thank you, Bugs Bunny.
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