*****OFFICIAL SPEECH THRAD 2****

[nadinbrzezinski]

For one go here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6503434&mesg_id=6503434

[spanone]

1. kick ass mr President

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. This is a strong speech... but we DO NEED PO

though boehner's face told all I need to know. He is PISSED

[Kookaburra]

Boner's pissed?

Pissed in the American sense or the British? Or maybe both?

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Perhaps both

he ain't a happy camper

[RoccoR5955]

17. Boner's being pissed ON... much worse than being pissed off! n/t

[me b zola]

31. If by pissed you mean drunk

my magic eight ball says yes

[liberal N proud]

11. But did you notice he made sure he was seen by the cameras as Obama entered

Him and McConnell made sure their faces were in the entrance

[gateley]

14. I can't look at him without remembering Obama calling him a "person of color"! Bwah!

[liberal N proud]

3. He has a plan

Fantastic

Tell them how it should be done.

[Barack_America]

4. Details.

Finally.

[Catshrink]

5. Boehner is more "burnt sienna" this evening

Fresh spray tan?

[sharp_stick]

9. As long as that prick keeps smoking

I'm happy.

[KoKo]

6. He's talking about "THE PLAN" what "IS" the PLAN..sounds like old Campaign

Speech... There really isn't a PLAN at this point! :shrug:

[spanone]

he's pointing it out now.

[KoKo]

56. Well...WHAT IS IT...So far it's Vague Campain Rhetoric...

I'm looking for the BEEF!

[LisaLynne]

7. Instead of honest debate, we've had scare tactics!

Go, Mr. President!! Call them on their child pathetic!!! Time for games has passed!

[margotb822]

8. Ideas from the right??

Like what? What ideas have the offered??

[LisaLynne]

13. Nothing.

Still trying to pretend like they are actual competent human beings.

[neverforget]

21. go to the emergency room? Is that an idea?

[sharp_stick]

24. I'll be surprised if they actually

ever offer an idea. They keep saying they want to be involved and then shit all over everyone. The nice thing is that once this passes they'll have nothing to claim as their part of it. They bet it all on killing any bill and I don't think that will work.

[L. Coyote]

10. typo

[prostomulgus]

12. I am just so proud of our young President.

I can't believe that we lucked out so much to have such a wonderful President!!!

[AngryOldDem]

16. Health Care Reform For Dummies

He is spelling it out so clearly that now there is NO excuse for not understanding it.

No exceptions for preexisting conditions...:thumbsup:

[tekisui]

18. The repukes don't clap for ending pre-existing conditions.

Slime, they are.

[liberal N proud]

19. No one should go broke because they get sick

[L. Coyote]

20. MORE recs .......

[HCE SuiGeneris]

22. Please define "arbitrary"

[Richardo]

23. "It will be against the law...."

Perfect way to put it for the general public.

[shadowknows69]

25. What if I'm already broke because I got sick?

My wife had to cash in her retirement for fucks sake. Don't suppose we'll be reimbursed for that huh?

[valerief]

26. Is he saying a public option for the uninsured?

[Stand and Fight]

28. No. Fucking co-op bullshit.

[valerief]

37. Sigh...

[Hepburn]

53. That is my read, too...

...and I am NOT pleased! :grr:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

NO and MANDATED PRIVATE INSURANCE.

[Ahpook]

163. What's the term used when corporations rule?

We have big fucking trouble in America

[L. Coyote]

27. Remember BUSH trying to talk right?

No comparison :rofl:

[gateley]

Pelosi is doing great -- nodding along, smiling, like she's so INTO this and

excited about reform! Kudos, Nancy!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

49. Her acting is improving!

[jberryhill]

165. She increased her Xanax dose /nt

[Canuckistanian]

29. "pre-existing conditions" "caps" "high co-pays".... GONE

That's what he wants.

[shadowknows69]

30. The insurance companies are licking their chops.

Not hearing anything about making them make it affordable yet.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. Yes they are

And he just got McCain's vote

[Mari333]

35. tax breaks? wheres the public option???

[AngryOldDem]

64. Now. does THAT put the "death panel" bullshit to rest once and for all? n/t

[HughMoran]

33. He punked McLame

heh :)

[gateley]

40. To his credit, McCain handled it well. nt

[TlalocW]

34. That being able to keep your insurance when you switch jobs

Is one of the unspoken reasons conservatives are so against it. If you've got crappy health care through your job, and you're afraid of not even getting that when you switch jobs, you're not going to switch jobs no matter how badly they treat you.

TlalocW

[liberal N proud]

36. He got the pukes to stand and applaud

Had to mention McCain but he did it. Then chuckled.

[Matariki]

38. here it comes - mandate

define 'affordable'

[gateley]

66. Is Grassley MIA?

[Joanne98]

39. Insurance exchange+deregulation=TOO BIG TO FAIL!

[RoccoR5955]

48. Sounds like corporate welfare to me! n/t

[Trocadero]

41. THRAD

[L. Coyote]

Unrec for spelling LOL

:rofl:

[Trocadero]

154. THRAD IS THE NEW HUGH

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Oh that shot of the Republicans CANTOR and BOEHNER looked all but happy

and mandatory insurance will go like lead

[Barack_America]

43. McCain's such a whore.

That was so brilliantly played by Obama. Call him out by name so you know the camera will be on him. And McCain couldn't help himself but stand up and applaud Obama.

[AngryOldDem]

44. The look on Boehner's face is just priceless.

Looks like he needs to take a good dump.

[madamesilverspurs]

57. Reminds me of the guy

who used to sit at the end of my bar, interspersing belches with words, looking like he might hurl at any minute.

[RepublicanElephant]

45. mandatory insurance with public option. nt

[ipaint]

What public option???

I didn't here a public option.

[Hepburn]

77. Where did you hear "public option?"

I heard what appears to be co-op bullshit.

:mad:

[shadowknows69]

46. Who decides what is fucking affordable? Fuck mandates. Put me in jail then.

A bunch of suits who don't have to worry about paying rent, food, meds, car insurance etc. etc. etc.

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. What I pay should be

ask that rates for Tricare be used for affordable... trust me, it is

[Barack_America]

The crazies have infiltrated Congress.

Republicans, take a good look at your pathetic party.

[Barack_America]

60. Oh enough. Even countries with universal coverage charge their citizens via taxes.

Ever had a gander at the tax rate in Ontario?

Worth it, IMO, but it does affect paying the billz.

[Stand and Fight]

47. Bullshit, Mr. President -- BULLSHIT.

This is a fucking handout to the insurance companies. If you're applauding this shit you've been duped. Period. This is BULLSHIT.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

54. DITTO!

[Gregorian]

59. I think he knows just what he can and can't do.

I agree. I don't want to hear the word "insurance". But there is a reality in which he is operating.

[Individualist]

70. +1

[Hepburn]

97. +1....

...and I worked for this???

:puke:

[blue_onyx]

143. Yep

I can't believe he's supporting the mandate. Get ready for a Republican president come 2012.

[Gregorian]

50. Freepers are freaking out about mandatory insurance. Obama better elaborate. Ten times.

Because they are going to use that against him.

[Matariki]

88. That's what they get for opposing Single Payer.

[Stand and Fight]

103. As well they should. This is mandatory -- that's what the President is saying folks.

If you don't do it you will suffer penalties. Let's not cut him slack just because he's our guy. The fact of the matter is that businesses and people will be fined if they decide to not get insurance through these so called "health insurance companies" -- it's a bloody handout. I'm done. This is BULLSHIT.

[blue_onyx]

161. I'm done too

He won't be getting my vote in 2012.

Can someone tell me what the big difference between Obama and Hillary was? So many on DU were so strongly against Hillary because she was a corporate owned politician who supported the wars. Now Obama is giving billions to Wall Street, giving insurance companies a handout by forcing people to buy insurance (something he was against when running against Hillary), and is expanding the war in Afghanistan. Yep...good thing Hillary wasn't the nominee :eyes:

[Ruby the Liberal]

51. Dammit. Mandatory clause without PO.

And nothing about cost controls. "Competition" my butt.

[RoccoR5955]

58. Competition = Collusion n/t

[Ruby the Liberal]

Yep. Insurance is exempt from anti-trust. This sucks. n/t

[KoKo]

69. Our Lefties have been all over this...It isn't just the RW who are concerned...and upset!

[Ruby the Liberal]

I am beyond furious right now.

To hell with you and your deals, Rahm.

[shadowknows69]

55. Congress is laughing now. People's lives at stake and they laugh.

Why am I not surprised?

[liberal N proud]

61. Just called Palin a liar

[Catshrink]

72. And irresponsible!

[spanone]

62. IT IS A LIE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE and the republics keep sitting

[spanone]

75. some one called the president a liar??? FUCK ME

[HughMoran]

63. LIARS!!!

:D

[NYC Liberal]

65. On death panels: "It is a LIE, plain and SIMPLE"

[GoddessOfGuinness]

67. Call the liars out.

[Seen the light]

68. OH SHIT HE JUST CRUSHED SARAH PALIN!

WOW!

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. Calling on the RIGHT and myths...

now that was artful

[liberal N proud]

73. Who is booing him?

[L. Coyote]

85. Who's the heckler in the House?

[progressoid]

Ben Nelson?

Max Bacaus?

[RepublicanElephant]

74. if obama's not backing public option, then why is he saying

"exchanges" instead of "co-ops"?

[ipaint]

95. An exchange of for profit private insurance companies.

[Ruby the Liberal]

105. Why has P and O not exited his lips? EVEN as an option??

[librechik]

76. dang, summing up no mention of public option

slippery

[liberal N proud]

128. Say what now?

[librechik]

162. He summed up what HCR would need, and siad it needs a --the market thingie

where you can buy insurance if you need it--that would have been a good time to mention the PO and he didn't . HMMM.

pineapple daiquiris are good! but not for clarity

[blogslut]

78. Harrumph! Harrumph!

The pubs don't like being called on their lies. heehee

[GoddessOfGuinness]

79. Who called Obama a liar?

Who is the ASSHOLE?!

[sharp_stick]

83. Don't know

but I'd love to take a tire iron to him.

[RoccoR5955]

Forget the tire iron... Gimme my Louisville Slugger n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

144. He's got the insurance to cover the damage.

[chatnoir]

80. Oh hell no, which Repuke shouted "LIE!"?

[GCP]

I wonder if we'll find out

[Catshrink]

107. Of course! That asshole is so proud of himself he'll be bragging about it on FAUX tomorrow.

[margotb822]

89. I know, WTF?!?!

I hope we find out!

[RepublicanElephant]

81. did some gop mo-fo just yell "liar"???? nt

[spanone]

92. goddamn right he did....son of a bitch

[Earth_First]

96. Cannot wait to find out! n.t

[WeDidIt]

98. Biden caught who it was

Some ashat is about to have the hammer dropped.

[fishwax]

123. I hope we can find out who it was

[Parker CA]

Yep, and the camera panned to Rahm later looking back to right where it came from.

Someone is going to be handed their ass on a hot platter.

[Pryderi]

82. NAME THEM! NAME THE LYING REPUGS!!!

[rusty charly]

94. If Pelosi's look could

kill...

[kiva]

84. No federal dollars for abortion.

[rusty charly]

108. Tacitly making something legal

essentially illegal.

[Ikonoklast]

86. WHO CALLED OBAMA A LIAR?

FUCKING WINGNUT ASSHOLE NEEDS A BEATDOWN!

[Barack_America]

109. It seems to be a Republican wearing a cardboard sign around his neck.

The lows that party has sunk to is staggering.

[fishwax]

135. I couldn't read what that sign said

but that says just about everything that can be said about the lack of ideas and class on that side of the aisle.

[Ikonoklast]

136. Whoever is running against that asshole, gets a donation from me.

Goddam classless asshole.

[Catshrink]

87. Have you ever heard someone call the President a liar in such an address?

This is a shock! Well, maybe not considering all the hatred that's been spewed by the RW lately.

[GCP]

100. Never

They really hate him - and don't respect the office.

[HughMoran]

102. Centure and expell that motherfucker

Or worse...

[AngryOldDem]

122. So, it came from the floor...and not from the gallery?

I wonder if we'll ever find out.

[AngryOldDem]

112. No. I never have,

I've never heard a president heckled from the floor (or gallery) during a major address. But I can't say I'm surprised.

[LisaLynne]

113. I thought Pelosi was going to get up and go slap someone.

She was like I can't believe that fer!

[WeDidIt]

115. That fucker will be cebnsured

PElosi asked who it was and Biden told her.

That fucker will be censured and will never be allowed to speak on the floor of the House again.

[MissDeeds]

124. As awful as it was

Maybe he'll get mad as hell and steam roll this thing through without trying to make nice and placate them.

[librechik]

127. NEVER!! and the Brits think Saddam bought nuke dust from AFRICA!!!

un American confederate bastard

[Barack_America]

133. I have never seen a President treated the way Obama is treated. nt

[fishwax]

145. Nope. Never.

Pretty disgraceful.

[armyowalgreens]

He just said that there would be no federal money for abortions. WTF?

[kiva]

90. No federal dollars for abortion.

[tomg]

91. So far playing PO close to the chest. nt

[Mari333]

93. what??????????????????

[librechik]

99. Did you hear that asshole call our president a liar???!!!The one whoi is lying called Obama a LIAR!!

[RepublicanElephant]

101. it's official... PUBLIC OPTION IS IN!!! nt

[GCP]

118. WOOHOOOOOO

[Maru Kitteh]

104. There NEVER would have been this kind of naked disrespect for ANY WHITE PRESIDENT

[spanone]

117. or for any republican president

[GCP]

130. Yeah

[Barack_America]

146. Pretty much. Fortunately, the cameras are getting a nice good look at these fuckers.

So the American people can see the truth behind the Republican party.

[fishwax]

156. it really is remarkable

The shout of "lie" or "liar," the stupid little props they're using, and so on ...

[valerief]

106. noop!

[stellanoir]

110. I don't remember any heckling going on when Shrub was beating his bogus war drum.

[nadinbrzezinski]

111. You will have to put the INS Companies out of bidness when all is said and done

I know DC is tone deaf

[GoddessOfGuinness]

114. I disagree, Mr President...They are evil people.

They value profit over peoples' lives.

[nadinbrzezinski]

116. Here we go PO, the Republcians are PISSED

[Liberal In Texas]

126. Yes they are - sitting there squirming!

[Stand and Fight]

119. Roh-oh! PUBLIC OPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, FUCK YES!

[blogslut]

120. BOOYAH!

A not-for-profit public option! YESSSSS!

[Matariki]

121. Not for profit Public Option

yay.

[Caliman73]

125. Who is that fucker with the sign?

I am Not liking the "exchanges" and no real public option. Otherwise he is a good speaker.

Who is that bald guy holding the hand written sign on his lap?

[Ruby the Liberal]

129. "Less than 5% would sign up" for the PO. My butt.

[Ruby the Liberal]

141. On second thought, may be to chill the insurance companies

HR676. *sigh*

[blogslut]

152. The more, the better

The more that join a Public Option plan/pool, the better, more solvent that plan will be.

[Ruby the Liberal]

158. Yep. I am surprised the CBO estimate is so low.

[rusty charly]

131. Putting the PO back in

POTUS.

[L. Coyote]

132. Who's got thread #3?

[nadinbrzezinski]

138. Give me a sec

[Catshrink]

147. Hurry up!!!!

:hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

134. Not as strong as I'd like it, but will have to be expanded later

[Catshrink]

140. time for new thread?

[rusty charly]

142. It's popularity will

force it to be expanded.

[Rosco T.]

150. he's not done yet!

[spanone]

137. hello...he is for the public option....hellllloooooo

[fascisthunter]

149. without a trigger?

[progressoid]

160. Yep - he just can't say those words.

[tomg]

139. I think he might have pulled it off. nt

This is sharp.

[nadinbrzezinski]

148. Thread 3

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=389

[valerief]

151. Thank you, Prez Obama!!!! You said the magic words!!!! nt

[Mr. Sparkle]

153. What are those sheets of paper some of the Congressmen are holding up?

[progressoid]

159. I dunno, but I think I saw the douchebag from my state holding one

[RepublicanElephant]

155. i'm loving this president!!!! nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

157. "I will not back down - if American's can't find an affordable option, we will provide

you with a choice".

[boobooday]

164. This was a great speech

:thumbsup: