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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:19 AM
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I will work against any healthcare "reform" without the public option
I will write and call my reps urging them to vote against any legislation that doesn't include a public option. It's simply unacceptable. I know I'm not alone. Does President Obama not grasp how much of his base he'll lose if he discards a public option?
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:21 AM
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1. are there enough prog. caucus votes in the House? nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:22 AM
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2. I don't know. My progressive rep has said he won't vote for any
reform waithout a public option. I want to hold him to it.
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:31 AM
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8. No point in calling my rep.
This is him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64RnVPLuLLo&feature=rela...

I did sign the online petition and sent it to all my contacts (of good politics)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:24 AM
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3. There are 65 House members who have pledged to vote NO
On any bill without a strong public option. If the conference committee returns such a bill, it will be DOA in the House.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:25 AM
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5. I hope they hold to it, but I'm not convinced that they will.
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:15 AM
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14. that's a lot of dems to hold together
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:31 AM
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10. Will they hold firm though?
let's hope.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:25 AM
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4. Pleased to be the third Recommend on this thread
Agreed.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:31 AM
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9. I was # 4, but some Obama apologist hit UnRec.
HE IS NOT THE FUCKIN" MESSIAH !
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:27 AM
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6. Nancy Pelosi said the same thing yesterday.
I was SO proud of her.

I would rather we go down fighting on this
one than putty it over.

Nancy said that the "half-loaf" was medicare,
and that it was time that we got the full one.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:30 AM
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7. And I will bitch , loudly, on DU.
Obama needs to to the right thing on this, if he does not he has sealed his place.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:10 AM
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11. I seldom agree with you, but I STAND with you on this.
:patriot:
K&R ....back up to +5
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:12 AM
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12. I agree with you on this cali. I also believe Pres Obama wants to do the right thing.
However, I think that the forces of evil are powerful. There is no knowing what threats they are making.

But I see this as possibly the most important political battle of our lives. If we loose, it will break the back of many Democrats and embolden CorpAmerica. Having said that, it might all be for naught if the SCOTUS rules in favor of CorpAmerica in the up coming case:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/us/30scotus.html?_r=1

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WeCanWorkItOut Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:14 AM
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13. The problem is the mandate. It's a tax on many lower-income people
The mandate is really a gift to the insurance companies.

Please remember that many people are just barely
making it, and they don't have access to good health care
because they don't have a car,
or they live in a Medically Underserved Area.
Others have good health, but other major needs.

So a full insurance mandate just takes from them,
and isn't really insurance at all.
We need to cope with this problem, to prevent
the public option from becoming another tax
on the working class.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:08 AM
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17. +1 -- we need to just say NO to a tax on the working class to line the pockets of the blood-sucking
insurance companies.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:20 AM
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15. Right.
I will make clear to a variety of individuals and groups in Washington that not a penny, a minute of campaign support, or a single vote will be invested from my household in support of ANY democrat who compromises on values.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:31 AM
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16. Agree.
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 08:33 AM by Hepburn
IMO, we need to raise our voices in a resounding chorus ~~ and let them know what we want. I worked for Obama for two main reasons ~~ stop the war and reform health care. So far, not a great record on this.

:hi:

Edit for typo
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:51 AM
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18. damn skippy. Same here. n/t
a bailout for insurance companies is NOT the change we voted for.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:12 PM
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19. Me too. I've already been doing that, in fact.
A "robust" public option is a deal breaker for me (and by robust I mean a plan that is projected to cover 50+ million Americans within five years). Anything less than that will not be able to drive down prices and "keep the insurance companies honest." Instead, it will amount to nothing more than a massive give-away to the health insurance cabal.

:dem:

-Laelth
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:14 PM
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20. Ding ding ding
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