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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:17 AM
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Jeb Bush: "Education Reform, What Indiana Can Learn from Florida"
The republican regime in Indiana is doing all it can to slowly strangle our public schools.

Now, to add insult to injury we get this:

Jeb Bush to address education leaders.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20090902/NLETTER08/3090...

The catch is that Indiana LEADS Florida in most categories.

Please see this message from Indiana Urban Schools Association correspondent (and former Assistant Director) Vic Smith: (PLEASE NOTE - The remainder of this post is not my work, it is copied from an email)

Subject: Vic's Statehouse Notes #28

Friends, Tuesday, September 1, 2009

I heard this morning that former Florida Governor Jeb Bush would be speaking to Indiana's Education Roundtable tomorrow on the topic "Education Reform: What Indiana Can Learn from Florida". I was curious how Indiana's achievement compares with Florida on the National Assessment. Attached you will see a chart of what I found.

The National Assessment, known as "the nation's report card", is the only test that fairly compares states. A random sample of students in each state take the same test. The chart shows the percentage of students passing the "basic standard" on the left. The percentage of students passing the more difficult "proficient standard" appears on the right.

The chart has too many numbers for most people's taste. In one page, it shows all of the National Assessment tests on record for both states. If you sort through all the numbers, here is what the comparisons show: (The comparisons favoring Florida have been underlined.)

1) In Math, Indiana has had higher percentages of students passing than Florida on on every test given since 1992, both on the basic standard and the proficient standard. This is true at both Grade 4 and Grade 8. All 22 comparisons in Math favor Indiana.

2) Similarly, all 6 comparisons in Science favor Indiana.

3) In Reading, all 8 comparisons at Grade 8 favor Indiana. At Grade 4, the 2005 and 2007 tests favor Florida on the basic standard by 1% and 2%, respectively. The Grade 4 2007 test favored Florida on the proficient standard by 1%.

4) In Writing, the 3 comparisons on the basic standard all favor Indiana. The 3 comparisons on the proficient standard all favor Florida.

5) In summary, of 27 total comparisons on the basic standard on this chart, 25 favor Indiana over Florida.

6) Of 27 comparisons on the proficient standard, 23 favor Indiana over Florida.

Given this strong showing for the achievement of Indiana's students over Florida's on NAEP, I am wondering what claims will be made in Governor Bush's presentation tomorrow. I am guessing that he will comment on more than writing proficiency, the only area where NAEP shows an advantage to Florida. Governor Bush is well-known as an advocate for vouchers and tax credits for private school tuition. If I were a betting man, I'd bet we'll hear about those topics.

I'll also bet that no one even mentions NAEP scores. Check out the attached chart for yourself. Indiana needs to do better than it is now doing, but in most comparisons, it is doing better than Florida and has been doing better for a long time.

Feel free to share this chart with a friend.

Best wishes,

Vic Smith

INDIANA & FLORIDA NAEP SCORES: AT OR ABOVE BASIC AND PROFICIENT
% AT OR ABOVE BASIC % AT OR ABOVE PROFICIENT
INDIANA US FLORIDA INDIANA US FLORIDA
Mathematics Gr.4 1992 60% 57% 52% 16% 17% 13%
Gr.4 1996 72% 61% 55% 24% 19% 15%
Gr.4 2000 77% 64% -- 30% 22% --
Gr.4 2003 82% 76% 76% 35% 31% 31%
Gr.4 2005 84% 79% 82% 38% 35% 37%
Gr.4 2007 89% 81% 86% 46% 39% 40%

Gr.8 1990 56% 51% 43% 17% 15% 12%
Gr.8 1992 60% 56% 49% 20% 20% 15%
Gr.8 1996 68% 59% 54% 24% 22% 17%
Gr.8 2000 74% 62% -- 29% 25% --
Gr.8 2003 74% 67% 62% 31% 27% 23%
Gr.8 2005 74% 68% 65% 30% 28% 26%
Gr.8 2007 76% 70% 68% 35% 31% 27%

Reading Gr.4 1992 68% 60% 53% 30% 27% 21%
Gr.4 1994 66% 59% 50% 33% 28% 23%
Gr.4 1998 -- 58% 53% -- 28% 22%
Gr.4 2002 68% 62% 60% 33% 30% 27%
Gr.4 2003 66% 62% 63% 33% 30% 32%
Gr.4 2005 64% 62% 65% 30% 30% 30%
Gr.4 2007 68% 66% 70% 33 % 32% 34%

Gr.8 1998 -- 71% 67% -- 30% 23%
Gr.8 2002 77% 74% 72% 32% 31% 29%
Gr.8 2003 77% 72% 68% 33% 30% 27%
Gr.8 2005 73% 71% 66% 28% 29% 25%
Gr.8 2007 76% 73% 71% 31% 29% 28%

Science Gr.4 2000 74% 61% -- 32% 26% --
Gr.4 2005 70% 66% 68% 27% 27% 26%
Gr.8 1996 65% 58% 51% 30% 27% 21%
Gr.8 2000 66% 57% -- 35% 29% --
Gr.8 2005 62% 57% 51% 33% 27% 21%

Writing Gr.4 2002 88% 85% 86% 26% 27% 33%
Gr.8 1998 -- 83% 78% -- 24% 19% Gr.8 2002 85% 84% 84% 26% 30% 32%
Gr.8 2007 89% 87% 88% 30% 31% 36%
Data Source: nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/profile
Prepared by Dr. Vic Smith, September 1, 2009




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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:20 AM
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1. Are you kidding me???
Jeb Bush and Education should not even be spoken in the same sentence. That's a definite oxymoron.
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:28 AM
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2. No doubt we're paying for his advice.
They just slashed the professional development fund for teachers but they can still somehow afford to bring is this clown.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:30 AM
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3. Be afraid, Indiana, be very afraid
If Indiana residents could see the insurmountably sorry state of public education in Florida today, they would back off Jeb Bush's example so fast they'd leave skid marks.

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:32 AM
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5. Florida seems like the "petri-dish" of crazy
Don't want to tarnish our already stellar "progressive" reputation that we enjoy here in Indiana. :eyes:
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:40 AM
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6. 8 years of Jeb Bush followed by
the Crist incarnation has driven us few remaining sane Floridians damn near into despair.
Can't wait to see what the next Repug governor will do to further destroy this state.

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:05 AM
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10. I don't have a lot of nice things to say about Indiana
Power has volleyed back and forth between Republicans and Democrats here in Indiana over the past 20 years but the Democrats (i.e. Evan Bayh) are, frankly, not very distinguishable from the Republicans and just about all of our politicians have a more "corporatist"-leaning agenda with a general "more tax cuts"/cut social services mentality that goes right along with the Pubs. I keep hoping that we will politically "evolve" soon. I'm not holding my breath, however.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:30 AM
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4. Thanks but no thanks!!!!
:puke:

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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:57 AM
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7. Sorry dude!
We're full up on crazy, right-wing morons here in Indiana right now. No need to import more. Thanks anyway!
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:59 AM
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8. What Indiana can learn from Florida??
Not one goddamned thing.
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:52 AM
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12. I'd like to think we've learned not to listen to anyone named Bush.
Apparently it takes some people longer to learn that lesson than others. I was an early adopter on that one.
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BarbaRosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:05 AM
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9. What can Indiana learn from Florida?
Steer clear of the BFEE!
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:07 AM
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11. The last thing anyone in this country needs, ever...
Is advice from a Bush.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 03:14 PM
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13. Indiana needs to be made as stupid as Florida
in order to move the nation towards the Republican utopia.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 03:27 PM
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14. Look out, Indiana. Here comes trouble.
Jeb Bush Speaks for Education Reform in Indiana

September 2, 2009


In eight years as governor, President George W. Bush's brother pushed through a slew of education reforms, including state-funded preschool, performance bonuses for teachers, alternative licensing for teachers without education degrees, and school choice for students in failing schools.

But Bush told Indiana's Education Roundtable the first change that had to be made was a letter-grade report card for schools based on students' performance.
"There was no emphasis on the creation of a database, a bank to be able to mine data to help teachers assure that students could learn," Bush recalls.

Bush half-jokingly says his brother's national school-accountability law, No Child Left Behind, borrowed Florida's plan of annual testing linked to consequences for schools.
Bush says No Child Left Behind has been effective, but says Congress should make one significant change when it reauthorizes the law: giving schools credit for improvement in students' test scores, not solely their passing rates. Under the current law, Bush says there's no reward to schools for encouraging students who are already passing basic-skills tests to excel, nor for making strides with students who still fall short of passing grades.

Bush says it's clear the law's goal of getting every ethnic and economic subgroup of students to pass a basic skills test by 2014 can't be met.

Daniels and state school superintendent Tony Bennett are enthusiastically embracing the full Florida package, though Daniels isn't tipping his hand on what specific changes he might propose to next year's legislature.
Bennett is already moving toward teacher licensing changes, with plans to publish proposed new rules on Thursday. And he says he'd like to issue a Florida-style report card on schools next spring.

.....




Hoosiers, beware. What Jeb Bush did to the state of Florida, he will engineer to your detriment as well.



Jeb Bush lumbers over to FOX to peddle his "6 Ideas to Save America.", April 9, 2009






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