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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:10 PM
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Friends of Animals calls for Idaho potato boycott after Gov vows to participate in wolf massacre
August 24, 2009
Priscilla Feral






Even though wolves were only taken off the Endangered Species List in Idaho in May, 2009, Idaho Gov. Butch Otter is not only endorsing the proposed trophy hunt this fall, hes vowed to participate in it. He told a group of hunters, Im prepared to bid for the first ticket to shoot a wolf myself. The wolf hunt is an apparent effort to boost elk populations for hunters to slaughter, and will begin on September 1, 2009. The permit to kill a wolf costs $11.50with 220 wolves set to be killed statewide.

Equally dismaying is the fact that Gov. Otter claims to respect wolvesmaking the nonsensical claim, in an interview with The Idaho Statesman, You can still hate them and respect their cunning and their place in nature.

Friends of Animals president, Priscilla Feral says, Gov. Otters enthusiasm for wolf killing not only demonstrates a complete lack of conscience and understanding of the word respect, it shows a lack of respect for nature and the ecosystem; wolves dont need Gov. Otteror anyone elseto manage them.

Friends of Animals is calling for a boycott of potatoes grown in Idahothe largest producer in the United States. One-third of all potatoes are grown in Idaho. Feral adds: As long as Idaho is in the business of killing wolves, the nature-respecting public should stop buying potatoes there. Look for potatoes grown in Maine, Colorado, North Dakota, Oregon, Washington and other states.





Idaho Gov Butch Otter



Graphic pic below













http://www.friendsofanimals.org/news/2009/august/friend...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:13 PM
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1. Most states allow hunting of some kind
In Pennsylvania you can hunt deer. Here in Florida, you can even hunt alligators. Why should Idaho be singled out?
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:17 PM
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2. Apart from the disgusting nature of hunting, the Idahoans will be killing animals to
ensure that there are other animals for them to kill. That is beyond fucked up.

Also - are you endorsing a "rush to the bottom" in justification? Just because other states also allow the
murder of innocent animals does not mean that it is OK for Idaho to do so.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:20 PM
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5. How does that differ from any other state which allows hunting?
Many other states allow the hunting of predators. How many states allow the hunting of bears?
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:35 PM
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9. Idaho (and others) are not "culling the herd" for preservation of the species sake.
They are doing the slaughter to make sure other sadists have enough targets for their own kill-thrill.

To me, that is sickness squared.

Again - just because others do it does not make it OK. Some Middle-Eastern nations (among other) legally allow "honor killings" of daughters who disgrace them in various ways (e.g., having sex, wearing western clothing, etc.). Should we OK that here simply because they do?

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:37 PM
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12. So, its ok for wolves to kill wildlife, but bad for people to do so?
:shrug:
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:45 PM
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16. That's just silly...
Wolves are wild animals. They need to kill other animals in order to survive. Some people do it for fun or trophy. Quite different.

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:48 PM
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17. Wolves kill wildlife because they need to eat, not for the
pleasure of killing. Few humans in this country kill wildlife because they require the animal for sustinence, Freddie.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:53 PM
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21. sigh
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:43 PM
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15. Allow the hunting of predators...
When do we get to start the people hunt?

After all, they're the greatest predator.
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Biker13 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:31 PM
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6. Yup...
Agreed.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:25 PM
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27. Always good to hear the republican view on this
Thanks! We now know what the repubs think.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:32 PM
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32. LOL!
:thumbsup:

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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:16 PM
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40. You can eat deer and alligator.
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 08:18 PM by juno jones
Wolves are higher predators. You can only trophy them. Unless you like gamy dog.

Higher predators are necessary in a healthy ecosphere, and the blood lust of wolfhunters is sickening.

I've lived with a wolf. Most extrordinary creature I have ever encountered in a life of animals. It was not my pet but a packmate and a friend.

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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:18 PM
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3. His name is wholy appropriate... Butch(er) Otter (and other wildlife)
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:33 PM
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33. I was thinking the exact same thing.

The name suits him to a 'T'.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:20 PM
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4. Thank you. I will join that boycott. Not that we eat many potatoes, but
I will buy Colorado from now on.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:50 PM
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19. The state of Colorado thanks you
and our potatoes are far superior that the Idaho Russett potatoes...

Hawkeye-X
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:03 PM
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25. Yes, they are.
:hi:
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:34 PM
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7. I'm no hunter, never have been
which makes me sort of an oddity here in Wyoming. But it is Idaho's right to manage their wildlife resources as they see fit, as it is yours to not purchase products made there. Good luck harming them economically.
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RidinMyDonkey Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:34 PM
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8. I'll join the boycott
I don't even like it when my friends hunt for their own food... And potatoes are one of my main food groups.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:36 PM
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10. Really?
You prefer it when they eat agribusiness farmed meat? Hmmmm.
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RidinMyDonkey Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:39 PM
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14. I guess so
I can't imagine killing anything, and I can't fathom how they can. I get upset if I smoosh a bug. Maybe I'm just overly sensitive, or I need therapy. Who knowns, but it's how I feel.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:48 PM
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18. That's cool.
I was just thinking how macrobiotically obtaining your own unprocessed food locally was a lot less environmentally destructive than agribusiness. :hi:
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RidinMyDonkey Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:57 PM
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22. I DO grow alot of my own fruits and some veggies
It's rare that I personally eat meat. Also, I never said I was stopping anyone from hunting, I just don't like the idea of it.

You're being awfully critical for someone who just said they don't hunt either.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:01 PM
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24. I don't,.
I went once when I was a kid. I just think that it's a great way to obtain food. Maybe I should get into bow hunting.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:36 PM
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11. A bit off-topic but are their names REALLY 'Priscilla Feral' and 'Butch Otter'?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:29 PM
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31. Yes, Bizarre, isn't it?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:37 PM
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13. Doesn't Idaho produce anything else?
That's sort of an apples and oranges relationship - well, more like wolves and potatoes, but still.

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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:52 PM
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20. Potatoes are something everyone is familiar with
It is quite apt.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:42 PM
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35. Lumber and live Christmas trees. n/t
Since a good portion of the logs are shipped out of the country, they are kind of hard to boycott.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:03 PM
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39. Well Christmas trees are out.
O'Reilly would just turn it into another bogus "war on Christmas" rant.

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Creena Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:59 PM
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23. I buy potatoes from my local farmer's market.
But, I'm sure my rescue group would appreciate the article. Many dogs require homemade diets and we buy potatoes in bulk.

The fact that they're killing wolves to increase the elk population for humans to kill is what bothers me. Wolves are predators. It's going to happen. Farms can take precautions to protect their herd from an attack, but wild elk is fair game.
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cognoscere Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:09 PM
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26. Why not just shoot an Otter?
Just kidding.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:10 PM
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28. Of course, Idaho's potato farmers probably have little to do with the policy, since nobody
believes wolves will dig up potatoes: the issue is probably driven by Idaho's livestock ranchers, who are likely to take the view wolves and coyotes cut into their profits

So it might make more sense to boycott (say) Idaho beef, instead of antagonizing a bunch of potato farmers who have nothing to do with this
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:28 PM
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30. +1
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:17 PM
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29. Kill the wolves so we can then have more elk to kill.
That's some fucked up "logic" right there. Anyone that doesn't realize that, I have pity for.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:33 PM
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34. Ore-Ida buys up most of the potato crop in Idaho. They are easy enough
to boycott.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:49 PM
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37. Yep, I'm buying potatoes

from local farms from now on.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:44 PM
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36. So much for the balance of nature.
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 05:48 PM by Kajsa
They are completely changing the balance to suit their fucking bloodlust.

To hell with the wolves, who were there first,
them there good 'ole boys gotta shoot some elk!
Yee-haw!

:(

Yes, that is fucked up beyond all recognition "logic".

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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:00 PM
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38. Punishing Idaho's potato farmers because the Governor is all hot to shoot wolves is like
...oh, I dunnoattacking Iraq because al-Qaeda hit us on 9/11...
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:17 PM
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44. No, it's more like attacking Afghanistan since that's where Bin Laden happened to be. nt
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:12 PM
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45. Okay. Did we, or did we not attack Iraq, and was, or was not, the rationale given at
the time that Iraq was behind 9/11? Yes, that is what happened. But Iraq was not, in reality, behind 9/11 at all, so attacking it was badly misdirected. See the parallel with Idaho potato farmers here? They had nothing to do with the Governor of Idaho's policy on shooting wolvoh, fuck it.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:03 PM
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41. Not the first time Butch has shown his respect for nature -
http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/d96f984dfb3ff7...

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is proposing an $80,000 civil penalty against C.L. Butch Otter and Charles Robnett for the unlawful discharge of dredged and/or fill material into a side channel of the Boise River, in violation of the federal Clean Water Act. EPAs complaint alleges that Mr. Otter excavated and filled in 2.7 acres of wetlands on his property without proper authorization by an Army Corps of Engineers permit.

Mr. Otter owns property on the Boise River near Star, Idaho and Charles Robnett is a Nampa contractor. In the complaint filed today, EPA alleges that in November, 1998, Mr. Robnett, on Mr. Otters behalf, used heavy equipment to dredge and fill certain wetlands and a stream channel on Otters property.

According to Chuck Clarke, EPA Regional Administrator in Seattle, this is not the first time Mr. Otter has run afoul of wetlands protection statutes in Idaho.

Through this action, were hoping to send a clear message, said Clarke. Mr. Otter has received two previous cease-and-desist orders from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for unauthorized wetlands work on his property, but for some reason they apparently had no effect. Idahos wetlands are too valuable to be treated with such little regard.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:09 PM
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42. knr wont buy idaho again. nt
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:14 PM
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43. Sorry to my friends who hunt...but sport hunting is not ethically tenable...
There is no ethical justification for killing and torturing animals for sport...

I understand there are questions of overpopulation of deer for example in urban population centers...and I understand the need for limited kills to control those populations. In those cases trained snipers should be sent to do the job (as is done on park land where I live). The meat is then donated to homeless shelters...

Having said all that...I don't think punishing Idaho potato farmers is really fair, or would be effective...


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