Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why people in the US are so satisfied with their health care system

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:07 PM
Original message
Why people in the US are so satisfied with their health care system
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 07:09 PM by Becky72
Bob Somerby tells us why:

But why are those people so satisfied? Could it be because theyve never heard this?

Total spending on health care, per person, 2007:
United States: $7290
Switzerland: $4417
France: $3601
United Kingdom: $2992
Average of OECD developed nations: $2964
Italy: $2686
Japan: $2581


People are happy with their current insurance for a fairly obvious reason: They dont know how badly theyre being looted!


http://dailyhowler.com/dh082109.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
1. I'll tell you why:
USA, USA, USA!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Yep. An unwavering belief in American Exceptionalism.
*sigh*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:21 PM
Response to Original message
3. Yep. As I've been saying, the two biggest reasons we don't have single payer....
are the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:21 PM
Response to Original message
4. My employer pays most of my insurance cost - I have a 20 copay and no deductible
for almost everything. However, if I go to the ER and do not get admitted its $100 copay - otherwise its free. I have a good deal. I care about health care reform because I know others don't have it as well and because you can always lose a good health care insurance or go over a lifetime deductible. Some of us do have it pretty good currently and we will pay more perhaps for health care reform -
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Mine used to be that way
Haven't had insurance that good since I worked for Verizon Wireless in 2002. Maybe it's because I'm too old and fat, or else the employers I've worked with since are too cheap, but my paycheck premiums went from $10 at VW to $70 at one of the larger employers in Lawrence. You might think $140 a month isn't that bad for healthcare, but when your wages are low and you're supporting yourself it takes a nasty bite out of it. And my dental was even worse...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
15. You'd love my plan then
12 dollars copay with private practice physician
3 dollars \ medication
455 year for the whole family
50 copay for ER, I have yet to get that one charged by the by... and non existent if I went to "in system" ER

What is my system?

Government run, TRICARE... and I hope folks get this, at least in theory.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
5. Some of us actually have almost free health care via good programs at work
so - no we are not stupid except for maybe being willing to pay more for good reform that is less vulnerable long term and treats other people well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Well, one thing about the debate that bothers me is the notion of "free" care.
Nothing is ever free. Universal health care is about as free as me using the interstate. The money came from taxes or some other source, not to mention the amount of gasoline it takes to run the car. Your employer is ethical or compassionate enough to even bother finding such a good plan. You are lucky. Most employers don't give a crap about such things and go for sub-par coverage, and many more don't offer it because they cite costs. Wal-Mart is a good example of that. Their plan is very good...if you can afford the deductibles, co-pays, and premiums on top of it all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:24 PM
Response to Original message
6. People are happy with their CARE (doctors), not their INSURANCE.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
7. You also forget Americans who have Medicare and Medicaid - they tend to want to keep it
and wrongly are afraid reform will take away a pretty good thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:27 PM
Response to Original message
8. I add to what Somersby says by also saying they don't know how good some others have it.
If they knew how good some others actually have it in countries like France or the UK, they would be wondering why their own country, often boasted to be the wealthiest in the world, cannot meet or even exceed their level of care or even coverage.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:47 PM
Response to Original message
11. I don't think alot of people ARE satisfied
The media is giving the spotlight to the loud mouths who hate Obama (and lets face it, that's what it all boils down to, right?). People I talk to who aren't necessarily lefties find their medical costs abhorrent. An older lady I work with has a really large deductible that she says is really hard to meet, but it's better than nothing because she has had so many health problems in the past year. But she is not satisfied by any means.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:48 PM
Response to Original message
12. Narcissism.
If they were aware enough of the rest of the world to know how bad they have it they would also know that single payer is the only way to go and the whole thing would have been done years ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:53 PM
Response to Original message
13. Who says I is? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:53 PM
Response to Original message
14. The pukes have fucked up the country so bad,
who cares if they live or die?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:57 PM
Response to Original message
16. Because folks do not know better, and propaganda works
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul 22nd 2014, 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC