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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:45 PM
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Why do I get the impression that Obama is trying for "change" but nefarious forces think otherwise?
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 01:40 PM by devilgrrl
He want to do good things for everyone but they make sure that he doesn't - OR ELSE?

Does anyone else feel that way? That he's continuing Bush's policies or else? The reason I say this is because every time that there is someone that wants to make things better for everyone - they get killed for it.

Talk me down as they say.


I re-edited this to make myself clearer - many apologies for the gun reference. :blush:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:51 PM
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1. facepalm
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:53 PM
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3. Why the face palm?
Seriously, he's backing away from things said during the campaign - the health care tea baggers - the "polls" - the media...

think about it.

Facepalm this.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:52 PM
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2. No. He's the President....not Che.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:54 PM
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5. ?????
?????
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:53 PM
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4. Because you are paranoid or don't believe Obama could have different ideas than you?
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 12:54 PM by stray cat
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:54 PM
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6. Paranoid about right wing lunatics?
Why would I be paranoid about that?

:sarcasm:
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:55 PM
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7. Because you like imagining him with a gun in his back?
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:57 PM
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8. He'll never be able to get anything done with the assholes who really run the show.
Fine, call me paranoid! :hi:
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:20 PM
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15. I didn't say you were paranoid. It was the gun image that bothered me.
I agree there are assholes (mainly capitalist pigs who will never give a damn about anyone but themselves) running a good bit of the show (the show being EVERYTHING) but there has also been progress. What do you really expect? Our entire way of life is rife with selfishness and an inability to reason properly. That aside...the gun thing... People LOVE to talk about that...kind of the way Republicans and their duped constituents are a bunch of death necks. They love everything about death; rally around it. I don't get it. Of all the ways one could frame your point...the way you chose to do so is sensationalistic And shallow, really. Isn't it obvious to all of us that we're talking about one man, a few people in congress yet perhaps a majority of the country, who don't really have the means to affect change without a fundamental paradigm shift in education & media?

I'm MIHOP so I'd never call you paranoid! I just think the "gun to the back" reference is a bit reckless if you care about the man...a little cavalier. The problem with real change is quite complicated and I'm not sure you are doing any of us a service by calling up an image of a few people controlling Obama at gunpoint.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:58 PM
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9. Because
the corporations own and run the fucking country. And Obama is a beneficiary of their largesse.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:58 PM
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10. 'Cause you're a
fail pusher.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:01 PM
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12. First one is free!!!!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:01 PM
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11. No idea whatsoever
It's way too hot to suspect carbon monoxide poisoning from a defective furnace as a possible explanation.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:01 PM
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13. Can't talk you down when it appears you've already jumped the shark. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:30 PM
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18. And, drowning in a sea of
negativity and lack of attention.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:14 PM
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14. Because you've always felt that way... always.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:22 PM
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16. Okay - I admit that this is a major league FAIL on my part. Many apologies.
:hide: :yoiks: :blush: :hide:
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:28 PM
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17. Here:
:hug: I'm assuming in your heart you were trying to say "it's not like he isn't trying". That's what I'm going to chose to think anyway...now that you apologized :thumbsup:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:32 PM
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19. That's exactly what I was trying to say. He wants to but nefarious forces aren't letting him.
I'm not one of the more articulate members here and am known to lack cohesion on many occasions... :shrug:
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:34 PM
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20. The Bilderbergs, Trilaterals, Aipacs, CFR's take turns holding the gun.
It does appear that Obama is a puppet to these imperialistic fascists.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:35 PM
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21. I've assumed that from before he was elected.
"You can have the presidency, Mr. Obama. We understand that the pendulum needs to swing back the other way. To a point. But just be aware that our operatives will pull the trigger on this gun pointed at your head if you get too far out of line. And the triggers on the guns pointed at your children..."

Call a paranoid, or whatever else you want. Or that maybe he just has different ideas than I do, I don't care. But I've assumed this from the beginning.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:36 PM
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22. What the?
Who the? Actually, when Obama took in Hillary I was having those thoughts. But since then I've realized the President once again made the correct choice.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:53 PM
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23. The new boss has met the real bosses.
He's first and foremost a politician whose main concern is acquiring and retaining power. As usual, he's going after the "moderate" votes by being "moderate" in his policies. Which means answering to the corporations, the military, and the media.

"Change", "Hope", "Peace", "Transparency" are political slogans, not policies.

Tinkering with a corrupt system of government might make it a little bit less corrupt, but the system itself remains corrupt and politicians owe their allegiance to it.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 08:48 AM
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24. Locked at OPs Request
Sorry it took so long.
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