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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:57 AM
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I'm depressed today...something about the national tone reminds me of those horrible years when the
repubs controlled everything...when idiocy and torture were commonplace...when the media lied about everything and used propaganda tapes to promote the war...
I've been patient...when the bankruptcy bill was not supported i knew millions more would lose their homes..obamas loan modification has actually helped fewer than 9% of those in trouble...afghanistan rages on...nut cases continue to be given a forum on national news channels...its now ok to carry guns to political protests...torture and corruption and war profiteering go unchecked...blackwater is still in the loop with govt contracts...between the cia, blackwater and the military industrial complex, we are barely recognizable as the country i thought or hoped we were....wall street, geithner, goldman sachs....tom delay is a friggin criminal yet he's on tweetys show all the time...why?...where is dick cheney?..why is he not in jail?..how can anyone think that bachman and palin are not over the top lunatics?

i had hoped for accountability...i just dont see it..the people who are fighting so hard against this administration should be lawyering up for past deeds rather than continuing down the same path. and given a national forum..one big happy bullshit club while the middle class vanishes and illogical arguments are treated respectfully...im sick of it...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:00 AM
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1. It's becoming very clear - Dems (including Obama) are complicit. nt
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:02 AM
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2. When you are depressed, everything looks bleak
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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:02 AM
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3. Same shit, different day
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:06 AM
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5. My partner who suffers from depression used to say that until he got help
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 11:07 AM by Politicub
It's a self defeating mood which doesn't get you anywhere. It causes malaise and inaction.

Now that he is getting help for his depression, he can function far better from day to day and has a more positive outlook on things. In fact, I haven't heard him say same shit different day for months.

And this is another reason why I support mental health coverage as part of whatever health care reform gets passed. Sometimes it can be more debilitating than a physical illness.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:12 AM
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8. Exactly Right. It IS the very essence of a self-fulfilling Vicious Circle.
It actually CREATES the very thing it hates.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:05 AM
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4. Hey, look on the bright side
It's pretty good now compared to how it's going to be!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:08 AM
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7. +1
:evilgrin:
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:07 AM
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6. If they ever take power again...blood will flow like rivers.....my blood.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:12 AM
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9. Yes, it is depressing but
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 11:13 AM by lunatica
what you need to do is back off from politics completely for as long as it takes to get back to being OK. Not OK in the sense that everything looks all rosy and wonderful. I mean OK in the sense that you feel like continuing the righteous fight. Because without that they will always win.

You just need to fall back and regroup. They'll be here when you get back.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:22 PM
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20. "they'll be here when you get back"....sigh
good advice..thanks..i sure wish, however, that a lightning bolt of consciousness would somehow enlighten a few of the most vocal..
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inatrans2003 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:14 AM
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10. I don't want to say this,
but I feel your pain. I am watching Mchenrys'(North Carolina)town hall meeting and I am not liking what I see. I cannot believe what I am seeing and seeing.
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inatrans2003 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:01 PM
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17. Back to Back republicans
C-SPAN.blue dog Gene Taylor. Where are the progressive on this station. I know how they c-span is funded, where is our representation .Mr Taylor just credited Bush for fema trailors.

REALLY DEPRESSED NOW
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:23 PM
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34. I saw this repub so called (blue dog) Taylor...
earlier this week on cspan and he kept praising Bush and downing Obama. He also chose all of his neighbors and anyone who hat on something from the military and of course he praise bombs and wars.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 05:41 PM
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39. kick!!!!! fukkin REC!!!!!
Awesome, troll-dude!

:popcorn:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:19 AM
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11. You are being realistic. They still do control everything...
because of their anger and hatred and lies and because the media gives them all the attention.

The right wing still controls the dialogue. You may be depressed about it, but you are essentially right.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:10 PM
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26. Obama is letting them control it and it doesn't help that he is filling his
administration with them.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:45 PM
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29. You mean the DLC message folks?


You are right.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 06:59 PM
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36. . . . and republicans. Anybody but progressives it seems.
Edited on Mon Aug-24-09 07:01 PM by The Hope Mobile
Bottom line is that the neo cons still have their empire intact more or less.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:25 PM
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35. I began emailing everyone of them and calling..
this week and will be doing the same this week also..
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 07:02 PM
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37. I've been doing the same. Keep it up! nt
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:26 AM
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12. You need to accept that conflict is the organizing principle of American society
The legal system is based on stylized trial by combat.

The political system is based on conflict between parties.

The economic system is based on greed.

Worker - management relations are based on strikes versus exploitation.

The country was founded on taking the land from Native Americans, usually by force or deceit.

The South was founded on slavery.

The Midwest and the Southwest were conquered during wars.

I could go on.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:36 AM
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13. You make excellent points
Every one of them is true. Still there's hope if humans really do have the capacity to learn from their mistakes. Mostly learning the resultant consequences of all actions, whether good or bad.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:58 AM
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16. Of course. America has a tortured not so rosy past if we all look deep enough.
When there is not conflict it seems strange.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:39 PM
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21. It's America's tortured and not so rosy future that is of more concern
There is no reason to believe that the level of conflict in America will diminish.

In fact, it is more likely to increase as conditions domestically and abroad continue to deteriorate.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:50 PM
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25. Conflict? Third World conflict in the U.S.? Conflict between one piece of bread & two hungry mouths?
Between those who sit by the sidelines, thinking their guns will help them when "the shit hits the fan"?

The conflict of complacency?

The conflict of "1984"?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:46 PM
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23. There is no conflict in fascism.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:26 PM
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27. There is great conflict in Facism
Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.

"Conflict is in fact the basic law of life in all social organisms, as it is of all biological ones; societies are formed, gain strength, and move forwards through conflict; the healthiest and most vital of them assert themselves against the weakest and less well adapted through conflict; the natural evolution of nations and races takes place through conflict." Alfredo Rocco, Italian Fascist theorist and government minister.

Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:22 PM
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33. No that's outside Fascism.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:45 PM
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22. There is no conflict when the government is run by private global offshored outsourced companies
There is no conflict when the government -- and its wars -- are run by private global offshored outsourced companies.

When the commonwealth has been hijacked to support and perpetuate their private wealth stream and not "support the common welfare" of the nation.

When people paying attention have watched this bullshit come at them for decades.

It's over.

Time for new hobbies.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:39 AM
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14. 'reminds me of those horrible years when the
repubs controlled everything'...'when the media lied about everything and used propaganda tapes to promote the war'...

Oh, you mean like they do now?
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:53 AM
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15. I understand completely, but I refuse to give up hope for the future
I went "on the wagon" today, boycotting sites (except for DU) that I normally enjoy schmoozing on. I just can't stand another day of freepers, sphincters, birthers and even Dems who seem to miss the point by miles. The tone of the health care reform debate in this country right now is almost completely insane, and I have the urge to throttle Anderson Cooper & most of the other buffoons at "Certainly Not News".

The entire litter of Blue Dogs makes me want to scream. Maybe it's the August humidity.

However - I refuse to give up hope for the future. I just need a breather, and maybe that's all you need as well. In any case, if everything is going to hell in a handbasket, I'd like to be one of the few sane people manning the fire extinguishers :) Keep the faith.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:02 PM
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18. They think that they can win in 2010 & 2012 without Progressives!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:07 PM
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19. Trust me, more REPUBLICANS is not the answer. more Liberal Dems, esp in Senate makes more sense n/t
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:50 PM
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24. The internet brought about the momentum for Obama to win
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 01:51 PM by truedelphi
On acccount of us progressives.

Looks like it is time to roll up the shirt sleeves and get something going that is more progressive than the Dumbocratic party, slave to the Money Party.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:35 PM
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28. To the Wall with them All!
Well, it sounds good, anyway.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:47 PM
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30. Just remember....
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:55 PM
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31. It is depressing, but you get used to it.
Every other year you hope that it will get better...
:kick:


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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:21 PM
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32. We know what you mean...
my friends and I but there are more of us than it is of them. I just watched some townhalls on cspan earlier and my blood was boiling, I put in a video..
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mihop at ihop Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 07:05 PM
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38. Yeah, but now WE control everything!!!!!
:party: :toast: :think: :eyes:
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