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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:48 AM
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It is really quite simple, get rid of the filibuster. It is time. Healthcare is important enough
we should have an up or down vote

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:50 AM
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1. first you have to get the dems to support a bill - all of the dems
the GOP is irrelevant - the dems will destroy themselves - just like their base tends to do as well.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:55 AM
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3. and why can't the Democratic leaders tell those Democrats that if they don't support a bill
not only will they NOT get support from the DNC, but any legislation they want to put forth will not be brought to the floor


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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:58 AM
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5. They can - would you change your vote on something you believe in
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 10:00 AM by stray cat
based on blackmail? Also, how much help do the hold outs really get from the DNC anyway? Should someone vote against the perceived interests of their consituents so easily?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:00 AM
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6. You are assuming those blue dogs actually believe in that, and are NOT influenced by
the lobbyists, and legalized bribery



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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:50 AM
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2. Filibuster
If they can't get rid of it, another option is to return back to the original filibuster rules, where the party filibustering had to have someone on the floor speaking all the time, otherwise it ended. No more virtual filibusters.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:58 AM
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4. It's certainly time for the reconciliation nuclear option.
Nuke the GOP!!!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:16 AM
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7. Can Obama use the power
the republicans gave Bush to decree health care reform?
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:21 AM
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8. It's a rule of the Senate that can be changed or scrapped altogether.
Personally, I think it should have been scrapped eons ago. It doesn't belong in a democracy.

And you're right, Health Care reform is so worth it.
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