All this amazing stuff is coming out into the light now.

[Jackpine Radical]

Just looking at DU today, I see that Rove has implicated himself in having improper knowledge about the Siegelman thing.

Blackwater was licensed to identify & kill supposed terrorists. Sometimes they got the wrong people.

Tom Ridge came clean about the Bushies using terrorism alerts for political purposes.

The Republicans, and their owners the health insurance industry, have been caught out in bald-faced lies.

Last week Sibil Edmonds named names and told stories.

The politicization of the US Attorney appointments, and the corrupt motives behind the selective firings, was revealed.

Gee Wow, All the stuff we knew to be true is now validated. Whooppee, Hallelujah!

So, does anybody think something meaningful is gonna happen now? I don’t.

There was a time, almost 40 years ago, when the media, officialdom, and the public would have been terminally outraged by any one of these cases. Any one of them is fully the equivalent of Watergate in its enormity, and Watergate was big enough to bring down a President, with even Republicans joining in his hounding from office.

But not any more. We’re living in a time in which, to all intents and purposes, the media pretend that there is no truth. There are only competing sides to the story, and they give the most credence to the version their corporate owners want pushed. That version, of course, is invariably the one based on a tissue of lies, because the corporations need to sustain a fabric of lies to keep their unholy grip on power.

Consider science, for example. Science is an enterprise based upon the discovery of facts, upon valuing the truth, no matter where it leads. The principles of science are antithetical to those of the corporate psychopaths. That is, no doubt, why 90% of scientists are Democrats. The attack dogs of the Right are working to destroy respect for science in the public mind. That is why they push creationism, and part of why they have attacked global warming.

So I predict that each one of these scandals, each of these insults to justice and decency, will pass with little note and no significant consequences. Certainly the mass media will pay them little mind, and I believe that the current Administration will also do nothing.

[NYC_SKP]

1. I believe the media is now concerned with the Obama vacation days and such as that. n/t

[laylah]

12. And don't forget their obcession

with Michelle wearing SHORTS IN PUBLIC...OMG (should be a swoon icon). Idiots.

[NYC_SKP]

19. Swooning emoticon...

SHORTS IN PUBLIC???

[Usrename]

64. +1

a rec for the swooning smiley

[Sheepshank]

47. I'm not sure the media has

completely exhausted the issues surrounding Malia's peace sign t-shirt. Although I'm hopeful we won't be hearing about that until Obama gets back from his vacation.

[madmom]

57. In last weeks Sunday back to school ads I notice quite a few peace sign t shirts.

[Locrian]

2. disgusting isn't it

I think it's even WORSE when it is uncovered, and NOTHING is done. What kind of rule of law is that? It's basically admitting that you have no government control, no rule of law.

[Grinchie]

56. This lack of the Rule of Law is the Key to this whole dilemma.

Everything on this plant must abide by the Laws of the Universe, The Laws of Nature, and in order to maintain an advanced society, the Laws of Social Order.

The Laws of the Universe are very simple to follow. They occur at the atomic level, and are involved with the digesting of the McNugget, to the oxidation of a chunk of Iron or Olive Oil. It's very difficult to escape the Laws of the Universes without trying really hard. You can't see that laws, but they affect all of us equally.

The Law of Nature is what drives the life of the Planet. Untill just very recently, we were just another creature living in Nature, but a few thousand years ago, man started to manipulate nature on a larger scale. The Egyptians built amazingly complex structure out of primitive, natural materials. We still don't know how they cut huge boxes out of solid granite, which are perfectly square, have parallel sides, and weigh so much that we would have a hard time moving them withour specialized machinery. Sarcofagus we are told.. Sure thing buddy, and they did all this with Copper chisels?

The Egyptians were discovering the Laws of Nature, so the Romans burned down their Library.

Next came the Laws of Social Order, which set out guidelines for the fair and equitable treatment of eac cell of the Society, the individual. As in Nature, society is just an extension of the grouping of cells in the human body. Our cells have enlisted in a social contract to work together for a common goal. They know that they can survive better if they work together for the purpose of living for as long as possible. They have developed mechanisms to repair the body, maintain nutrition, and adapt to adverse conditions. A complex organism is driven by the same goals as a single celled organism.

The Laws of Social order are very simple. Treat everybody with respect. Take care of the Cells that are not equipped to take care of themselves, becaue they are part of the whole, serving for the benefit of maintaining the power of the body.

The current problems we have today is that we have too many cells that are disconnected from Nature. They beilieve that they are the only thing that matters, and lack the consciousness to connect thmselves to the planet and ultimately the laws of the Universe. They think they are machines, because they forget about the last meal, which is so frivolous and unrewarding, and perform work without the understanding that every actions has a price.

It is estimated that over 80% of the people on this earth are living in Urban areas, completelt separated from nature except for the Disneyesque man made facsimilies created for them to ogle at. Wht they don't experience are the simple things, like insects, multitudes of birds and other creatures that all exist quite well on this earth without depending on science to answer everything for them. Man today has this belief that he is above Natural Law, and can dictate the shape of the world.

However, this belief is breaking down. The Laws of Nature are telling us that Ecological collapse and population overshoot are on the horizon, and deep in the buried human subconscious, survival instinct is stirring, trying to break out of the ludicrous, nonsensical Society we have created for the benefit of consumption and control.

The powers that be knows that the earth is heading for the reset, and they are preparing for that day, but we are not seeing preparations that will benefit mankind in general, but we are seeing the benefits and power concentrating into the hands of very few. They have been preparing for the day, and now, in order to have a valid excuse, they are merely stoking the fire of the subconscious masses but destroying the Rule of Law, Destroying the connection to the Laws of Nature, and Obscuring the Laws of the Universe for the general public.


They have succeeding in Subverting the Economy, they have succeeded in destroying the Constitution, and are now playing by "Insurance Company Rules"

Strangely enough, the Religious Right seems OK with doing anything the hell they please, because "God" loves them, and therefore anything they do goes. Building Permit? it isn't written in the Bible, so why should I?

At this point, the Laws on the Books for the Government are being ignored, subverted, and unenforced, yet the Laws for the Common Man are enforced with an Iron fist, sending people to jails to be subjected to the ongoing, media reinforced, socially manipulated thought pattern, of being "Analy Raped", while High Politics gets to have a seat on the Board of a Major Corporation.

It is disgusting. No other word for it. The way this Government polishes the thin veneer of this so called democracy is criminal.

Well, the veneer is starting to wear thin. The common man is noticing the impending collapse, and is starting to gear up for a fight for survival. The common man knows that he will be fighting agiants other desperate men, all with different ideas on how to survive. The only way for this country to survive is by reinstating an equitable set of Laws, that everyone can understand without a litigation lawyer at his side.

[Locrian]

70. anarchy

Well, the veneer is starting to wear thin. The common man is noticing the impending collapse, and is starting to gear up for a fight for survival. The common man knows that he will be fighting agiants other desperate men, all with different ideas on how to survive. The only way for this country to survive is by reinstating an equitable set of Laws, that everyone can understand without a litigation lawyer at his side.

And most have no clue about what "survival" will mean in un-civilized anarchy. Anyone that thinks they can ride it out with their gun and stash of canned food, or their own small farm is delusional. If/when bad times come, the only "rule" will be mob rule. You would probably be better off joining your local "Hell Angels" chapter. Clans/ gangs and power will be the only deciding factor.

Rule of law is not just a novel concept: It's what makes civilization and advancement possible.

[Grinchie]

76. You nailed it. When the rule of law is no more, the wild dogs will roam

When the law means nothing then property ownership is meaningless. Although I do own a small farm, and am able to produce food for hundreds of people per year, single handely, I am not so naieve as to think a few unruly, well armed Blackwater rejects couldn't simply come in and take it all away.

It's kind of like the movie, "The Mosquito Coast" with Harrison Ford. The only way to survive is through cooperation and the help of others.

I see the Government doing all it can for itself, while it presents a Dog and Pony show in order to keep the natives from going out of control. I am fortunate in that I have spent the last 10 years relearning the realities of providing for myself and my family. I truly fear what the masses will do when the support infrastructures for the Urban Areas, which contain 80% of the world's population, finally come to grips with the reality that they are totally dependant on others for basic survival, such as food and water and materials.

A good example of the loss of knowledge due to technology, are the hundres of multipurpose plants that have been abandoned for Plastics, Pharmaceuticals, and Modern Processed foods.

Less than 50 years ago, the Polynesians were so in touch with nature, they knew all the important tree's, all of their products, medicines and other uses. Today, they couldn't name more than 5, if that. They spend 90% of their GDP which is based on Cash Crop Exports, on food imported from abroad. They no longer can produce the food they once did for millenia of isolation. Hawai'i is in the same state, except for people like me that have returned to the old, tried and true ways.

I have a little comfort in the fact that my farm looks more like an overgrown forest than the stereotype promoted by our Corporate funded educational system. Perhaps people wouldn't recognize it in the case of anarchy out of sheer stupidity.

I'd just give them the keys to my Truck, and then go get the machete I hid under a rock and build a new house.

[grasswire]

3. even so, the people have the power to change that...

....if they will gather together with enough sense of purpose to demand change.

[AuntPatsy]

20. Not enough wish to put themselves out so. Much easier to moan on a message board

that all is lost in your underwear and a cold brew close at hand...

[The Doctor.]

38. The very same forces that have supressed interest in these stories

have erected an impregnable wall of ignorant fucktards to prevent that change.

[dglow]

60. efforts to demand change

Having marched with half a million war protesters in D.C. against the Iraq occupation that was totally ingnored, and now with the voting process totally contaminated, the only option we have is to stop commerce (as they do successfully in France) or organize a mass tax revolt. The only purpose the American people serve now is to pay taxes so big money interests and their stooges in DC can steal it. Tax dollar withholding is our only weapon.

This is the sad reality of the corporate state we live in today!

[graywarrior]

4. No one cares.

They're still highlighting death panels and nut cases who show up at town hall meetings.

[ThomWV]

5. When "Frog Marching" makes the nightly news I'll be satisfied.

[hedgehog]

6. You missed this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.

[redqueen]

8. I like this post. (nt)

[hedgehog]

10. I think it shows great stategy - go after them where they don't expect us!

[Jackpine Radical]

18. That is excellent. I live in dairy country, and have watched family farms die.

I really don't want to pretend that nothing good has happened in recent months. Sotomayor, minimum wage, etc. It's possible to forget about those things in a general wave of cynicism.

[truedelphi]

27. Most family dairies here in California are in big big trouble

And they are the ones that in terms of being concerned for the environment, and the quality of life for their animals, had it mostly right.

But Geithner and Bernanke gave so much money to Wall Street that they could bid up the price of grain while bidding down the cost per gallon of milk. That equation was disaster for the dairies.

100,000 cows slaughtered in Napa and Sonoma alone.

<sigh>

[Hannah Bell]

41. another example of the gov't putting independent businesses out of business.

[Bluenorthwest]

52. Some of those dairy farmers doing it right are in my family

And they are on the verge of losing everything.

[truedelphi]

75. My heart goes out to them.

People in the city have no idea of the work it takes to keep a farm together. Or the committment to so many small interconnected details.

And in the bastardization of the ideas contained in Francis Lappe's fine book, "Diet for A Small Planet" people no longer realize that not all land is good for grain production. The hard scrabble pasture and hilly forest areas where I see the cows would have to be bull dozed flat, an enterprise I cannot imagine any rice or corn farmers would consider.

[Grinchie]

59. Most people don't have a clue what it costs to maintain Livestock

Or that the Livestock need to pay for their own feed and provide enough for the Farmer to stay economically viable.

Of course, one has to remember that a cow needs about 10 acres of forage to maintain itself, and when you cram 1000 cows into one area, something's gotta give. In many cases, the Land will be destroyed, the herd will become malnourished and die, and the environment will be overwhelmed by pollution and disease.

To put this into perspective, we pay less for a Gallon of Gasoline than we do for a Gallon of Milk.

For many years, Milk was delivered fresh to our door. It was healthier back then as well.

We now feed our animals GMO feedstock, laced with BT Toxin. Cows will not eat this crap when given a choice between Organic and GMO feed. They will instinctively avoid the GMO feed and eat the Organic feed until it is exhausted. The doctrine of Substantial Equivalence allows GMO Corn to Compete with Organic corn, just because it looks like corn. It does not take into account the Pesiticide incorporated into every cell, or nutrition, taste, flavor, or nutrition. This applies to all foods, even different crops of Organic produce. Two aplles may be wildy different in nutrition depending on what type of soils they are grown on.

Our Dairy cows are eating reasonable facsimilies of feed. They are not getting the nutrients from the grasses, and are producing inferior, less nutritious milk.

Our whole system of Agriculture is a sham. It's equivalent to boxcars full of cheap Chinese trinkets, made with dubious material and prove to be unsubstantial after to take it home.

[truedelphi]

74. What is so sad about the farms that I see going under is that

They are the ones that are providing ten acres or so per cow. Often they have a pony or two for their kids side by side with the cows.

All that acreage devoted to dairy cows means the wild life has habitat. Here in Lake County, our pear orchards have been converted to vineyards, which provide NOTHING in the way of habitat. Miles of Miles of nothing but over pesticided miles.
I imagine that the dairy farms will become vineyards as well. (Plus it will be very hard to find pears in your supermarket here in Northern Calif as well.)

In the other Counties, (like Marin and SOnoma) much public attention and several programs helped support smaller family farms.

SADLY Meanwhile the Big Agri Business that do have 1,000 or 5,000 cows crammed into one area will borrow from the Corporate parent and ride out the squeeze. And they will be the ones whose over-antibiotic-ed milk will be the product on our grocery shelves in the future.

And in that future, the prices on dairy will implode.

[havocmom]

23. And let's not forget this (with many thanks to Jon Stewart)

"Just hitting wires. Betsy McCaughey just resigned as a director of Cantel Medical Corp."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

anybody who missed The Daily Show last night deserves to kick the weekend off right:
http://www.thedailyshow.com / Check out the extended interview (well, disembowelment really) of McCaughey

[NoSheep]

62. I heard this story as well and was very pleased.

[omega minimo]

66. People miss a lot of things in GD: P because it's so viciously guarded

[livetohike]

7. I think the media is yawning about all of it. Sad.

Although Mika looked genuinely disgusted on Morning Joe today over the Tom Ridge revelations.

[redqueen]

9. The M$M is pretty much useless.

It's up to us to get the word about about actual news.

The M$M is in the business of spreading disinformation and manufacturing consent.

[lunatica]

11. The upside to all this is that the media and their corporate masters are also

being exposed in the process. They will fall, just not very fast.

And Nixon managed to get re-elected in a landslide AFTER the investigation of Watergate had tied him to the crime. I choose to believe that all actions have consequences sooner or later.

[tekisui]

13. THis is the same drip drip drip that started in 2004.

I has been slow enough to keep the masses placated. We need Incarcerations!

[Generator]

14. I know I saw

the Ridge thing labeled on Maddow as conspiracy theory proved true. I just go oh well. Du'ers have known most of this shit for YEARS but the mainstream public will never know. It's on Maddow's show-was it the headliner for CBS news for example? Was it even on there? And the pure despicable nature of it-using terror to terrorize the American people. Where is the outrage over that-you fucking loony right wingers?

Someday it will be the truth about 9/11 but hell it will only be on the "liberal" stations. This nation is fucked. I'm watching it before my eyes with the health care "debate". Death panels-I want to shout what the hell is the Iraq war-it seems to be a hell of a government run death panel-but never mind. Can't discuss THAT. It's okay to die and be maimed for Dick Cheney's fantasy and profit or George Bush's freedom for Iraqi's-why are Americans dying for IRAQ anyway-huh-what does Iraq have to do with me and you, but a bad idea for me to have cheap health care.

VAT a country ladies and germs!

[alfredo]

15. Three words, Zoloft, Paxil, Gin. That holy triad keeps us from getting

too excited.

[CoffeeCat]

24. Don't forget...

...high fructose syrup, and partially-hydrogenated fats.

An unhealthy, slovenly, poisoned society doesn't have the gumption to fight back.

In my opinion, that junk is totally part of the orchestrated effort to neuter the will of "We The People".

[alfredo]

35. Consumerism is the new shackles.

[cliffordu]

51. WTF??

Unbridled greed and gluttony is FREEDOM, man.

They hate us for our freedoms, 'Member??

[alfredo]

55. I am so ungrateful.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

16. I think you hit the nail on the head

re: Media.
Those of us who are old enough to remember Watergate remember that the press really cranked up the outrage and attention and turned a spark into a forest fire.
I truly believe there were some behind the scenes power brokers who decided at the point the press must be muzzled. Too much information in the hands of the masses is bad for business.
The solution? Buy the media. Increase salaries, making them feel they are better than the average person, change them from watchdogs to lapdogs. There was a reason at one time why they were referred to as the Fourth Estate. It used to be they sounded the alarm when government got out of control (by government I mean corporate interference).
Now? Now it's what kind of beer does the president drink? What's his favorite color? Is he a sports fan?
Distraction is the new mantra for media and we have Richard Nixon to thank for it all........

[lib_wit_it]

71. Media changed from watchdogs to lapdogs! Well put. Yet the average US citizen

has no clue of that fact.

I want a peaceful revolution. I want it now. I've already pissed off every RW friend and relative I have. But that's because they don't want to know. Still, the middle-or-the road sheeple could be moved, if only we could get their attention.

[Captain Hilts]

17. I'm surprised Edmonds' story isn't getting more space. It even includes girl-on-girl action. nt

[CoffeeCat]

21. Bottom line....

They're letting us know that they can do any damn thing they please, and there's
not a damn thing anyone can do about it.

Do you know how many times I've thought...this is the time...this is when BushCo or the neocons
will be brought to justice.

It's constantly the Fitzmas that never comes.

I no longer have hope that our corrupt government will prosecute itself.

The only thing that will solve this, is THE PEOPLE!

[valerief]

22. I think since we've become Third World, these things are par for the course, unfortunately. nt

[azul]

25. This amazing stuff was missed by the MSM for a reason.

Why the Right's Propaganda Works

"There is a repetition and a resonance to the Right’s propaganda machinery, which makes even patently false claims appear true."

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/081809.html


Liberals and progressives missed the golden opportunity to invest in the media, and so missed the chance to keep it honest and balanced and functioning as watchdog. What we got was Junior's gang of criminals and profiteers turned loose on the world with no one able to speak out authoritatively against them.

The corrupted press is now the primary problem, in that all issues are framed by it, including that of itself.

[AuntPatsy]

26. I am so tired of reading articles such as this...we missed it? BS

Plain and simple. money loves money....and in the world of high finance they could care less about poltical name calling....such is used only in considering an return investment.

[Jackpine Radical]

28. The Capitalists simply went out and bought themselves a propaganda machine,

thereby simultaneously eliminating any semblance of journalistic integrity from the field.

[azul]

29. High financials love to play craps with loaded dice.

Buy the media message, buy the politicians, write the legislation, shed the oversight. The treasury has just been looted and the debt piled on too high to ever repay, and the Democrats and Republicans vie to expose each other's corruption and foibles. But who is directing the media focus of attention? And who wins by keeping the voting public uninformed or misinformed?

Real people lose, corporate personhoods take it to the bank when the truth is missing in the press and corruption reigns in government.

[azul]

30. AP, did you catch this one about congress

not being able to do its job and impeach for criminal behavior because it is afraid of the corporate media's power?:


AMY GOODMAN: Why stop short of hearings on impeachment?

REP. JOHN CONYERS: Well, because, unless we’re going to impeach the Vice President and the President within this space of time, I think we could be very seriously compromising the greatest important—most important thing, in addition to documenting any misdeeds that may have happened, whether we continue to have Bush enablers continue to shatter and tear the Constitution to shreds. And so, all of this, academically, is great. I’ve got a number of books from my friends about which articles would be best and which ones we should go after more. But it seems to me that the time element and also the feasibility of whether or not there is any possible chance of success—there is a very stark reality that with the corporatization of the media, we could end up with turning people who should be documented in history as making many profound errors and violating the Constitution from villains into victims. And those are the kinds of considerations that have entered my mind in thinking about this process, Amy.

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/20/to_impeach_or_no...

[butterfly77]

31. My friend and I have been saying the same thing..

for a few weeks now and we feel something big is about to happen..

[windoe]

32. Documentation and testimony are imperative in these times,

to collect data, cross reference and research as much as possible. When the country catches up with these realizations and/or is ready, all the paperwork will be done. The challenge of being a progressive is to keep the doors open behind us so that those that wake up after us feel welcome to walk through on their own accord.

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[nadinbrzezinski]

34. No, nothing will happen... after all why overturn the apple cart?

You should know better, citizen, nothing to see here...

[Doctor_J]

36. Big Media needs to suffer some casualties, but

the admin could help this along by prosecuting some of these blatant, unapologetic criminals. Holder or whoever is deciding things a DoJ is a disaster, and complicit in the lawlessness that continues.

[mzmolly]

37. "Wow, All the stuff we knew to be true is now validated."

Yup. And do you suppose the R/W will wake up in spite of this? Naaaaaaah.

[Swamp Rat]

39. The 'attack dogs of the Right' have bitten their own tongues.

We can see all of THEM now, for who they are and what they have done.

[tavalon]

40. I'm astounded

I didn't think it was possible anymore, but I'm just astounded. These people should be on trial and they are sleeping comfy in their beds. America The Beautiful, ain't it?

[bunkerbuster1]

42. There's gold in them thar hills--Obama oughta mine it.

Maybe someone over at the White House reads Rude Pundit; in particular, this:

Another miscalculation by the Obama administration was in not seeing the political value of investigating and prosecuting Bush administration officials, including Dick Cheney. See, having the Justice Department under Eric Holder threatening to arrest and drag off the ex-VP and others would have been the perfect shiny object for the right wing. Who has time (or as much time) to argue about whether or not Obama wants to kill Granny if he's wanting to jail Alberto Gonzales? Let people protest and let Rush Limbaugh pop like a diseased pimple over it while Glenn Beck weeps that he's next. Hey, Obama has no control, really, if Justice wants to go ahead, right? And think of what it would have forced Republicans to do: state whether or not they support the actions of the Bush administration, the presidency they dare not speak of because it reminds people of what they're actually angry about. Yes, such action against the Bush White House would have been a distraction, but in a good way. The other thing it would have done is to ameliorate the rage of much of the nation, the gnawing sense that "they got away with it."

I don't think it's too late to make hay of this. And I have no way to prove that what Rude Pundit said would turn out to be true, but my gut says it would be.

[BREMPRO]

43. Obama has restored the Science and Technology Advisory Council in the White House

that was disbanded by Nixon in the 70's, because Republicans "can't handle the truth!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/President-Ob... /

good sign..

[spanone]

44. ...and we were just tin-foilers here on d.u.

or the crazy left

[Jackpine Radical]

45. DU Group Photo:

[kentuck]

46. "Certainly the mass media will pay them little mind.."

Because their role is still in the darkness. We do not yet know the extent they conspired to promote the war in Iraq for George W Bush and the different times, like the NY Times, that they covered up for the Bush White House lies.

[felinetta]

48. I think it will just embolden Repubs with righteous indignation and hubris. They'll blame liberals.

[glitch]

49. We need to move past the Corporate Media in our expectations.

It has made itself irrelevant. Jeremy Scahill talks about behaving as if the truth were true. We need to follow his example and keep fighting for it, no matter what the Corporate Media has to say about it.

I don't know what the current Administration will do yet. They may do nothing, especially if they don't hear from us. They may have to be forced to do something by our direct action. That's up to them.

One thing we do know: WE don't need the Corporate Media to organize marches on Washington, DC.

[bleever]

50. You are correct that they succeeded in destroying consensus "reality" as we've known it, but

even though it's a loooooong way back, as long as gravity still exists in the form of earnest citizens demanding truth, the pendulum must and will swing back.

[defendandprotect]

53. "The myth of a free press died with the assassination of JFK" ....

[OwnedByFerrets]

54. I am afraid you are 100% correct.

[progressoid]

58. Sad but true.

k/r

[GreenTea]

61. The republicans & media called us paranoid, hateful, speculative, conspiracy theorist, liars!

As these same accusers allowed and looked the other way at Bush & the republicans lies, starting wars for profit, stealing elections, torturing people, imprisoning democrats & other whistle-blowers, illegally eavesdropping on it's citizens, gutting our social programs, stealing everything including our treasury that wasn't nailed down and encouraging hate towards anybody who were different and didn't toll their sick self-severing conformity of patriotism & Christianity.

These same republicans & media people pointed their fingers at us were all, while piggy, greedily making gobs of money and didn't give a shit about our country as we sank deeper & deeper in the pits, because no one challenged these criminals, these BushCo republican thugs it was much more fun making money backslapping and pointing the finger at others!

The truth takes work, not as glamorous and certainly not as profitable...these republicans, media pigs and their sheep are despicable creatures that aren't even capable of the truth or caring for others...

They are ALL pieces of Karl Rove-George Bush-Dick Cheney rolled into one, they never take responsibility for anything, while continuing to lie, distort, smear & discredit the truth, the facts each and every day for their hate & greed!!

[Cleita]

65. Not only them, I got my share of those accusations right here on DU. n/t

[earth mom]

67. I would have been jumping for joy hearing these stories a year ago.

But I know now that Obama and Congress aren't going to sully themselves or potentially damage their political careers by fighting for justice or the Constitution.

[MannyGoldstein]

68. Have You Seen Michelle's Arms? No Jiggle There!

So nice to have a romantic couple in the White House.

Sorry, gotta run - I'm selling my kidney so I can afford to eat mac 'n cheese, toodleloo!

[Usrename]

69. You left out the parts about murdering and torturing witnesses.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/autorank/269

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

They have been allowed to create a completely fake reality, even about things as huge as 9/11. Many of the members here support them in this endeavor.

[RagAss]

72. I don't even bother to read these stories anymore. Murder by the rich is legal in the US now.

So who the fuck is left to change that.

[LaPera]

73. K&R

[caseymoz]

77. There's another, related reason why outrage against the scandals will be hard to spread and maintain

It's because the conservative propaganda machine keeps public outrage divided and unfocused. It's rapt audience which has been trained to reject or ignore other sources of news have been set against liberals as the final source of corruption. Any mention of these scandals to them will be treated with distrust.

The "market" has been segmented this way specifically to set ordinary people against each other when they get frustrated with the corruption of our political, social and economic system.

I would suggest that unless we have a plan to "rescue" the people who are being so badly misdirected and misled, any reform against the Party for Corporate and Privileged Interests (GOP) is going to fizzle.

[MasonJar]

78. Since these stories are out and substantiated, it is not now the media

which has responsibility to do something, but rather the president and the Congress, but especially the president. If, as it seems likely, he and his administrators continue to ignore the unlawful acts of the many in the previous administration, he too becomes culpable, and I assume subject to legal action.