Why can't corporate media just do this?

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From the Guardian (UK):

"It is also an effort to push back against what many suspect is a coordinated misinformation campaign by Republican and health insurance industry opponents.

Former Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin last week said falsely

that Democratic legislation would require senior citizens and disabled individuals to appear before a "death panel" of bureaucrats who will decide whether to pay for healthcare. A frequent conservative refrain warns that the Democrats secretly plan to implement a system similar to Britain's National Health Service, and of healthcare rationing by government bureaucrats."

Just put the fact that it's "false", A LIE, right next to their claims ...

Gingrich (etc.) said falsley that the plan contained death panels ...

Republicans said falsley that Obama was not born in the United States ...

etc.

TO REPEAT A LIE IS TO TELL A LIE

[doc03]

1. CNN has debunked all these accusations

but who listens to CNN?

[nc4bo]

4. Yea, I love how "they" debunk rumors only after they've been debunked by

others. They are responsible for giving air time to lies and then, playing the same lie over and over again in soundbytes and 30 sec. clips then, after they set the world on fire, they debunk them. Sometimes.

Tricky, tricky media.

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5. When do the fire Dobbs?

CNN is interesting. In March 2008, they ran a story that indicated that Obama's original birth certificate was
lost. That was never the truth. In some ways, it was the spark of quasi legitimacy that kicked the story up
a notch. Then Dobbs goes off giving the birther story credibility after the head of CNN news says the story is
crap. Letting Dobbs do that without a screen text ticker saying "This guy is lying" was a mistake and further
compounded the problem. They ought to decide what their story is.

[704wipes]

10. Dan Rather was shown the door for less wasn't he?

nt

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11. True and he was right! n/t

[lib_wit_it]

23. Right, but not a Right Winger. Hence, he gets fired.

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25. Right, if he'd been a raver like Beck, they'd have kept him

...sponsors or not!

[nc4bo]

2. Nothing fair or balanced about the media and they don't want to be, ever.

Fair and balanced would never sell ad spots like a good ole controversy would. Truth doesn't sell even half as well as would rumors and lies. Lots and lots of lies.

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6. The corporate agenda over all other matters, including truth

You're so right!

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Those who refuse to do nothing in the face of evil....

but then again corporate media has a stake in this.

That said, the RM show and KO have, to a point, pointed to the lies, Especially the Rachel Maddow show, I wish they all did it though.

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8. Maddow and Kieth are islands of truth in a sea of lies

(I'm stealing Daschle's line from "Meet the Press" - something like, our health care system has 'islands of
excellence in a sea of mediocrity' or something like that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. That is all I watch these days

this moring Doctor Nancy, at least she was ahem, given a gentle cup of Shut the fuck up by Dr. Dean... when she started going... public option is poisonous, or something like that

[nc4bo]

13. We'd need a fleet a Rachael's, Keith's and Ed's to take over the 24/7

Corporation of the Media network. This country is starving to death for the lack of real news, we've been dumbed down for so long that I don't think most would even recognize real news if it landed on their rooftop.

We'd also have to ensure that antennae users could receive it and have it available on the basic tiers of all cable/satellite providers.


There is NO counter to the Ministry of Propaganda.

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15. Pure truth

I left Ed out. He's really come through - the three are the trifecta!

Full access to all media is a necessity not a luxury. They try to control the internet, throttle political
sites, etc. The reponse is a real Bill of Rights for free access to informaiton (along with a rewrite of
the copyright laws. The new battle cry should be "Remember Pirate Bay!"

[WillyT]

7. Exactly !!! - K & R !!!

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9. Lies, lies and the lying liars that tell them

[handmade34]

14. such an excellent point

I want the media to report the news, tell the truth and call a lie, a lie. Doesn't seem like that much to ask

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18. It's a very reasonable request

But it's not their job to tell the truth and call a lie a lie. It's to "shape" public opinion to the ends
of their owners, the corporations that tell us to bend over and smile. Time for change and time for the
fulfillment of your very reasonable expectation.

[FrenchieCat]

16. I consider the corporate media to be ran by treasonous immoral souls.....

as they are a big part of the problem in making Americans suffer needlessly in all kinds of ways.

[lib_wit_it]

24. Soulless.

[Me.]

17. TO REPEAT A LIE IS TO TELL A LIE

The problem here is that most of us assume that someone doesn't want to be caught in a lie. That is a mistaken notion because as long as their purpose is served they don't care because they don't think we count for anything.

It serves their corporate purpose to promulgate that nonsense of false neutrality which became so prevalent during the Kerry run. They make mire money when they are allowed to run wild and not be regulated. It's all about the green. Further, Obama was right when he says the media loves a ruckus. Fights and drama boost ratings and sell papers.

And of course there are the deliberately ignorant weenies who wouldn't know a lie if it hit them in the face.

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19. We are nothing to them.

Zip, zero, nada so lying to us is like stepping on ants (or in the case of some of them, incinerating ants
with a magnifying glass. Their lies are deliberately dehumanizing Obama to the point where the
psychopathic faction can justify anything after hearing, over an over, these unchallenged claims - he's not
from here, he's not a legitimate president, he wants to kill seniors with "death panels."

They deliberately ran Palin's big lie knowing was a lie without saying it was lie. They are the lowest of the low.

[Me.]

20. 41 & 43 Referred To We The People As Fodder

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26. Didn't they at least modify that with "human"?

[puebloknot]

21. And the more they repeat these lies, the greater the danger to Obama. And ...

... I'm not talking political danger alone, but physical jeopardy.

We are a laughing stock before the world, with our media spotlighting the most ignorant and violent among us.

[girl gone mad]

22. But then wingnuts might call the media "liberal".

Oh, wait...

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30. I'm wondering if the corporate media is trying not

to hurt the town hall screamers' feelings by pointing out that they're flat out wrong and spouting non stop
bull shit? Nah, they're just endorsing the agenda, with all the hate. They bear a huge responsibility for
not telling the truth about lies - 'The town hall protesters falsely claimed Obama wanted death panels.'

[Joe Chi Minh]

31. "Death panels" would be a luxury in the US, Mike! People are dying

premature deaths fine without any help or hindrance.

[Me.]

27. 'K

[truedelphi]

28. To stop a war before it starts, one million people march through

The streets of San Francisco and another million in New York and five hundred thousand in Chicago. Then 10,000 plus in every town, village and hamlet.

But the media doesn't see them.

Let 400 teabaggers converge on a City Hall in Podunk, Nebraska, and the media is on it like flies on shit.

proud to be K & R number 11.

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29. Evening kick