Just picked up a Combivent inhaler and paid $122.

[TNDemo]

Good thing I have insurance...:eyes:

[lob1]

1. Would that be the one that Mike Moore bought in Cuba for a nickle?

[obliviously]

3. How many drugs have the cubans invented

now you have me curious! waitng for list.

[tridim]

6. I don't know, but it would help if we could legally trade with them.

As it stands if a drug is developed in Cuba, we can't use it. How fucked up is that?

[obliviously]

13. What drug have they developed that we can't trade for?

Come on just one!

[1955doubledie]

28. What drug? The best one of all...

Cigars! :smoke:

[obliviously]

31. I can't dissagree with that!

[lob1]

10. Watch Michael Moore's Sicko.

A lady firefighter was paying over $100 for an inhalor, due to lung damage from 9/11. When Moore took her to Cuba, she found Cuba sold the same inhalor for a nickel. Needless to say, she bought a bagful.

[obliviously]

12. They were probably donated to cuba!

[lob1]

14. So what? It was the same drug with a bazillion % mark up in the States.

Who cares where they got it, and why can't we get the same discount?

[obliviously]

23. Because everytime you turn around their is another class action lawsuit against a drugmaker!

[lob1]

26. Oh bullshit. What drug company do you work for?

[obliviously]

30. And you

what do you base all of your cuban expertise on? A movie!

[lob1]

34. Just a movie and you can't deny the truth of it. Oh, by the way, it's better

to quote a Mike Moore movie than it is to just make up shit. You have yet to offer a single fact. Why are you so passionately defending the drug companies? Friends of yours?

[obliviously]

37. And your facts are where?

I know let me guess Hollywood entertainment.

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[obliviously]

39. I do yard work

I have no insurance and my wife is wheel chair bound what little money we make goes to pay bills. I am still not fool enough to look to a tyrant like fidel for advice. I would like to see our high health care costs come down as much as anyone but so far I have never been refused help by any doctor or hospital and the have been more than happy with me paying what I can on any money I owe them. As for you calling me a troll I don't remember calling you any names. Michael Moore weighs over 300 pounds and I will not consider him being an expert on anything other than stuffing his face.John F. Kennedy did not like the way Cuba does things either ad I am proud to share that issue with him. Good day sir!

[wolfgangmo]

36. Really? Everytime I turn around. Wow.

I mean I can turn pretty fast.

Here's another one and another. And another.

Wheee. Lawsuits.


Oh, unless you didn't really mean that. Unless tort reform is complete BS. Unless you have bought, hook, line and sinker, the BS that corporations have been pushing. You do realize that only about 2% of frivolous lawsuits even get a court date. And of those only a few of them ever get out of arraignment?

What you are talking about is about as real as the mercedes driving welfare momma that Reagan was always harping on about. You know, the one that has NEVER BEEN FOUND after 30 years of looking.

Class action and other lawsuits are the ONLY defence most of us have against the criminal activities of corporations. And the payouts would be a fraction of what they are if we had single payer in the US because the main cost on any of those suits is ongoing care.

Got any more red herrings, o bait of flamers?

[PA Democrat]

15. Delete. Dupe

[PA Democrat]

17. What would probably be a much shorter list is those drugs developed WITHOUT US taxpayers funding.

http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/10127?badlink=1

During the recent heated arguments about AIDS drug access and Medicare prescription drug bills, a few facts have emerged that would shock any reasonable American taxpayer: that while so many persons struggle for access to medicines, 85 percent of the basic and clinical research for drugs on our market today was funded by taxpayers. And yet the industry reaping the benefits for our high drug costs -- making three times the profit of the Fortune 500 average -- spends only 11 percent of its revenue on Research and Development (R&D) and 27 percent on marketing, according to Families USA.

Those who are ill with treatable diseases are charged twice in the prescription drug game -- once by the IRS, and a second time by the pharmacy. But there's a way to regulate the pharmaceutical industry that offers hope to the elderly and those who cannot afford vital medicines.

[riderinthestorm]

18. This is a strawman.

I'm not sure what your point is....

Most US drugs are developed with US taxpayer funding, since we are the wealthiest nation on the planet we SHOULD be getting these drugs for a nickel. But instead we allow Big Pharma to extort whatever price they think they can get away with.... The actual price of the inhaler probably is a lot cheaper than $122 but that's what Americans are forced to pay. While in Cuba they actually value healthcare and will subsidize drug costs or provide them at cost.

Have you heard about Cuba's medical training program? Trains Americans for free to become MDs. Perhaps you can give me a list of US medical schools that train Americans to become doctors for free?

[wolfgangmo]

35. How many drugs are solely attributed to US pharma companies with ...

... no government support, grants, etc.?

Now you have me curious. Waiting for a list.

Let me get you started. Vioxx...

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

2. Inhalers have like, what ... 200 doses?

[alstephenson]

5. And they probably cost like, what... 200 cents?

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

7. Aparently, the inhalers cost $122

I don't know... I was just askin'. :shrug:

[alstephenson]

11. Sorry for snarkiness.

I thought you meant it was really a good deal because it contained 200 doses.

[Jazzgirl]

9. But they charge you like....$122?

I use a different inhaler and my co-pay went from $10 to $38. The regular inhaler would make me cough. My doctor finally told me it was the propellant and switched me to Ventolin. I can barely afford it with the $135 co-pay for my other drugs. It could be worse tho................

[Fla Dem]

32. Lucky I have a prescription plan. Just got 4 Combivent inhalers for $90.

200 Activations each. My plan makes you get your prescriptions in 3 month orders. Without the insurance I think the inhaler goes for about $130.

[jody]

4. $120 should buy 800 doses. n/t

[iamtechus]

8. My Indian pharmacist charges $6.03 for 200 dose combivent inhaler (generic). nt

[Deja Q]

16. Why bring race into this?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

19. Maybe because he's in India?

Or do you believe all Indians live in America?

[Dappleganger]

25. There's a lot of fraud coming from pharmacies there.

Our asthma advocate group warned us that fraudulent inhalers were coming out of India and to be extremely careful.

BTW, I feel that pain--asthmatic mom with four asthmatic kids (one is severe). This is why we never have new cars--what would go into a car payment easily has to pay for our meds (and then some during pneumonia season).

[Mariana]

21. I think it's location being brought in, not race. nt.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

20. Have you already met your deductible?

[pitohui]

22. i've done w.out my inhaler for years

i guess it's fortunate i'm not dead yet but i just had to learn to do w/out it

[misanthrope]

24. Did you see this?...

...story on similar issues from earlier?

[devilgrrl]

27. What's the problem ? Do you have any idea how long people in Canada wait in line for those?

:sarcasm:

[Maiden England]

29. Cost to the NHS, $11.14

according to my BNF and today's xchange rate....

and you know at that price they are still making a profit

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