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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 04:54 PM
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Boehner whining about the truth coming out...
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/boehner-spox-its-idiotic-to-cite-his-2003-vote-for-end-of-life-measure/

Boehner Spox: It’s “Idiotic” To Cite His 2003 Vote For End Of Life Measure


John Boehner’s office really didn’t think much of our story below reporting that he voted in 2003 for an end of life measure similar to the one sparking all the “death panel” fantasizing right now. In fact, his spokesman dismissed the comparison as “idiotic.”

Here’s the response from Boehner spokesman Michael Steel to our post, which said that the 2003 Medicare prescription drug act, which Boehner and many Republicans backed, provided funding for end of life consultations, albeit for the terminally ill:

“Anyone who understands this issue would find this comparison idiotic. Hospice care is, by definition, for people who are already close to death. The Democrats’ new government takeover of health care legislation would offer this counseling to every senior on Medicare.”


Steel’s point is that the earlier legislation Boehner backed is specifically for those undergoing “hospice consultation services” and are terminally ill, while the more recent legislation funds all end of life consultation. That’s true — and the later bill does contain other various provisions that the earlier one didn’t.

But the core objection many Republicans are making to the current bill is to the general concept of Federally funded end of life consultations, because Republicans say they risk veering into discussions of euthanasia. The objection is that government money shouldn’t be funding any conversations about artifically ending one’s life.

It’s not even clear that this would happen. But if it did, and if you opposed Federally-funded conversations about ending a patient’s life, it’s unclear why you’d be okay with them if the patient were terminally ill.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:04 PM
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1. So, if I'm 112 years old...
And I'm feeling right chipper at the moment, I can't talk to a doctor about letting me go peacefully when my time comes?

Backpeddling would be amusing if I weren't so pissed at these idiots.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:05 PM
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2. Fucktard. nt.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:11 PM
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3. I love the word Fucktard!
It's wrong in so many ways!
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:12 PM
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4. How can something so wrong
Feel so right...
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:14 PM
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6. LOL!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:13 PM
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5. Are they really this stupid? Or do they just assume everyone else is?
:banghead:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:28 PM
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7. Oh the comparison is indeed idiotic
Under the "that was then, this is now" principle of Republican politics. Their every utterance is a reflection of their deepest, most closely held convictions . . . right at that moment. And those convictions can change, suddenly and without notice, at any time. At which time, they will have a whole new set of deepest, most closely held convictions. And shame on you for remembering stuff!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 07:41 AM
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16. Can you spell "Projection"?
They've got nothing else. Truly sad, but still true.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:30 PM
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8. Big K & R. I can't STAND Boehner.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:31 PM
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9. What's that? Boehner came out???
Oh, I read it incorrectly.

Huh, don't know why I'd be so surprised, Boner looks and sounds more effeminate than Lindsey Mushmouth Graham.

The end-of-life thing is a ruckus for nothing. As I understood it, it was added merely to include end-of-life discussions under the umbrella of covered medical visits. And as far as euthanasia goes, how long is Oregon's death-with-dignity law going to have to be used, with solemnity and consideration (and not with wildly escalating spontaneous suicides), before the rest of the country figures out that it's a reasonable policy?
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 07:57 PM
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13. Do you always assume "effeminate" men are gay?
I'm sure you had no intention whatsoever of being offensive, but I think your post might come across as a little homophobic.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:13 PM
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15. Point taken
I guess I was hoping to aim at their hypocrisy.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 07:21 PM
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10. I've been trying all day to figure out who was the Republican who
said it was the elderly's responsibility to die. It wasn't Boehner. Someone said it in the 90s, though, I found out when I posted the question that a Democrat from Colorado was the first to suggest it in 1984. (The year is kinda ironic.)
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 07:38 PM
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11. We need to show Boehner some compassion.
It must be hell going through life being orange.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 07:41 PM
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12. I try not to hate
But damn, these objectionist bastids make it very hard.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 08:09 PM
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14. He might suck as a legislator, but when it comes to whining, he has no peer......
:cry:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:32 AM
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17. No peer? Please. Rush Limbaugh can whine rings around him. With Cheney close behind. nt
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