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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:45 PM
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Keith O Takes on Anderson Cooper
http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/msnbcs-kei...

MSNBC talking head Keith Obermann is well established as one of the few news anchors out there willing to really speak up about controversial topics. (For the record, I think he's great.) He's repeatedly taken on the Bush Administration, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and pretty much anyone else he suspects of being a hypocrite. Turns out Olbermann's outspokenness extends to his fellow news anchor Anderson Cooper of CNN. In a recent interview with New York Magazine Olbermann has this to say about Anderson (recently "outed" so to speak by Out magazine):

Dont tell me you dont want to talk about personal life when you wrote a book about your fathers death and your brothers death. You cant move this big mass of personal stuff out for public display, then people ask questions and you say, Oh, no, I didnt say there was going to be any questions. Its the same thing as the Bush administration saying, Were going to war, but you really arent allowed to know why.

Don't hold back there, Keith! But that isn't all. Olbermann goes on to say:

Dont tell me you cant talk about your personal life and then, when they send you overseas and you do a report that consists of your voice-over and pictures of you in a custom-made, blue-to-match-your-eyes bulletproof vest, looking somberly at these scenes of human devastationlike a touristand thats your report. Your shtick is your personal life.


****


Man, do I love Keith.

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:51 PM
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1. I think Anderson Cooper is a over-pampered dip-shit...
it slays me that people here think he's "all that". The little prep-school tart.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:53 PM
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2. yeah .... but I'd do him!
:evilgrin:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:54 PM
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4. I heard he doesn't take too kindly to atheist jokes....
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:17 PM
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12. Who's gonna talk?
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:55 PM
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5. You're such a tramp!
:rofl:

PS - I'd do him too, but I don't think he'd be interested!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:18 PM
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14. Yes I am and PROUD of it!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:55 PM
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6. But dude, your wallet isn't big enough!
;-)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:17 PM
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13. Well my wallet might not be .....
oh dear. Did I just got there?

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:49 PM
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31. LOL!
:evilgrin:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:46 PM
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36. hell, I'd do them BOTH!
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 06:49 PM by youthere
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:54 PM
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39. Oooh...



TOGETHER!!!!



:loveya:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:00 PM
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40. Preferably!
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:58 PM
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9. I read his book
and trust me, he has been in way more nasty places and situations than most average americans. He is more than willing to suffer deprivation to get the story. I have a lot of respect for him. He went to Africa and experienced the actual culture, unlike many who go for show and stay in their cocoon. I like KO, but when he goes and risks malaria and typhoid and such to get a story then he can start in on AC if you ask me. This seems more like professional jealousy for me. I am of course a liberal, but Cooper is very objective in his reporting which is almost IMPOSSIBLE to find these days.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:22 PM
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16. Cooper was far from balanced in reporting from the Potemkin Village.
... but Kyra is presstituting herself even more.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #1
56. Son of Gloria Vanderbilt, Grandson of railroad tycoon Cornelius Vanderbilt
according to Wikipedia.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:31 PM
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70. But he when to Bosnia and Africa - he pulled himself up by the bootstraps.
:sarcasm:
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:54 PM
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3. Bwa ha ha ... Go Keith!
What did Kathy Griffin say about him...he wore Prada to a hurricane?
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:56 PM
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7. I'm not sure what Keith would have him do
Cooper is hardly a closeted homophobe. My understanding is that he's out to more than a few people but hasn't discussed it publicly. I really don't care - it's his decision, his timing.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:09 PM
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10. I think he'd have him answer honestly, instead of evading the issue under the guise
of not discussing his PERSONAL LIFE - but all the while using his PERSONAL LIFE as his shtick.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:57 PM
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8. Bring back Aaron Brown!
Aaron was never one of my favorites but he at least had something close to a news show. I loved how Anderson handled the coverage of Katrina. That was real true emotion he was reporting with! His show lost its way after that, he became Katie Couric lite! And, KO is right once again!!!!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:14 PM
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11. Yep, somewhere he changed and I'm not sure why.
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crappyjazz Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:43 PM
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17. I liked Aaron Brown
and I can't stand Anderson, not sure why though; I'm probably one of the minority, but I thought his Katrina coverage was full of fake emotion ... another bubble head to me
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:21 AM
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18. I also like Anderson ....but.....
His format SUCKS big time!!!!! For me, whoa is the day of mediocre Aaron Brown. Anderson could have really been something if he only had more courage in his reporting. Brown also lacked that courage. So goes the saga of Brown & Anderson, no Balls!!! When will Dan Abrams ever see this? The so called Doc Block totally sucks!!!

Both could be excellent reporters if the network allowed them to be.
I believe in second chances and they both needed to stand up to their producers, whom, will surely bring them both down! Aaron needs a second chance as does Cooper. GROW-UP boys along with Dan Abrams who needs to do the sane!
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:26 AM
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19. I heard that the "younger" viewers preferred AC to AB, I guess I'm
an "older" viewer and I do prefer AB. Where is he by the way, I kind of miss him.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:46 PM
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22. Wish I knew. He deserved better.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:23 PM
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24. Katie Couric lite --- Oooouch!!
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:19 PM
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15. Cooper's best job was on "The Mole."
I miss that show. It died when they did the celebrity one, but the first two with Cooper hosting were good. I didn't even know he was a news guy when those came out (no cable).
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:15 PM
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41. So your the other person that watch the mole!
I thought I was alone! Yea, I fell hard for him when In first saw him on that show.
Sad day when I found out I was the wrong gender for AC's attention! Ha Ha!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:47 AM
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50. I loved him on the Mole
infact I still love the guy. :loveya: *Sigh* I'm wrong for him too. :-(
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:33 PM
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51. Hubby and I loved it!
I picked it the second season, but they surprised me the first season--I thought it was the straight guy, not the chick.

I soooo want to be on The Mole. I think I could do it. :)
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:31 AM
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20. Man, do I love Keith.
May I humbly say that Keith needs to become a :little self righteous". Some compassion needs to be shown on certain subjects and he would really channel Edward E. Morrow. Only thing I can see lacking in KO is his blatant self righteousness. He is still my main man though! And, I love him to death for all the trustiness he tells. Just give me a little less cocky self rightness. And, add in a touch of forgiveness for those not as astute as he. I do Love the man though!!!!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:38 AM
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21. Hate speech against a person who may be gay.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:48 PM
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30. Maybe you're right. I didn't look at it that way when
I first read the OP. I guess I was focusing on Cooper's over-inflated ego, rather than the outing aspect.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:29 PM
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42. Yes, until he says that he is indeed gay, Keith is practicing hate speech.
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 07:30 PM by Neshanic
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:20 PM
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23. I'm Keith's biggest fan, but he's wrong here.
I love Keith, but he's wrong here.

Anderson Cooper's sex life is nobody's business but his own. He shouldn't be forced to talk about it anymore than Keith should be forced to answer if he prefers blondes or if he likes a playful spanking.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:27 PM
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25. I wish Keith would leave Anderson alone, this may backfire on him
It's not Keith's place to get him to talk about his sexuality. It shoudln't matter to Keith.

Keith has a professional beef with Anderson and he's letting this cloud his judgement.

Please leave this alone Keith.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:41 PM
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28. Being gay isn't a matter of sex life. Being gay is not equivalent to liking
a fetish.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #23
37. I agree.
but I'd sure like to know an answer to those questions.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:28 AM
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45. I totally agree with you! Keith is WAY over the line here!
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 12:57 AM by Duppers

Anderson's sexuality is none of Keith's fuckin' business! And at least Anderson WENT to Iraq!

Why the fuck is Keith so threaten by Anderson Cooper, who, btw, has never said one bad word about Keith Olbermann???!!!!

And why the fuck are you people here on A.C.'s case? Do you not remember his coverage of New Orleans, his dad's home town?
He DID cover the story with real passion.

Do I smell some latent homophobes here? Do I?







Here's the Huffington Post's take on this:



Olbermann Hits Cooper Below the Belt

Jason Linkins | Posted Thursday April 12, 2007 at 01:20 PM

"Don't tell me you don't want to talk about personal life...Your shtick is your personal life!"

And with that, Keith Olbermann unleashes fresh hell on CNN's Anderson Cooper, decrying his rival's steadfast need to keep his sexual preferences in a state of non-disclosure. Color us utterly dumbfounded, but it all seems a little unhinged. To wit:

Olbermann: "It's the same thing as the Bush administration saying, 'We're going to war, but you really aren't allowed to know why.'"

Sure! Excluding the enormous expense, the lives lost, the careers ruined, the lack of potable water and power, the corrupt dealings of military contractors, the sectarian violence, the blowback in Iran and Syria, Abu Ghraib, John McCain's heavily armed stroll to a Baghdad falafel stand, and anything that could remotely be considered high stakes, it is SO TOTALLY THE SAME, Keith!

This wouldn't, by any chance, have anything to do with yesterday's chatter about Coop's expected pay increase, would it? Because if so, this is a heck of a way to start salary negotiations!

Good night, and GOOD GRIEF!

(UPDATE: As it turns out, all of Olbermann's rantings on the topic of Cooper's sexuality well precede the news of Coop's pay raise. We're sorry to have implied anything other than the fact that Olbermann really, really, really, really cares about penetrating mysteries that are largely irrelevant.)

RELATED:
Keith Olbermann Slams Anderson Cooper's Silence on Sexuality
Olbermann Now On Cooper's Gay Timeline

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2007/04/12/...





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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:02 AM
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46. PERHAPS KEITH IS HOMOPHOBIC or just jealous?
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 01:04 AM by Duppers
I cannot come up with any good reasons for his outrage against Anderson Cooper other than these.

Sorry. I love Keith too....or did.

OR hmmmmmmmmm....does he protesteth too much?
Nawwwwwwww.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:16 AM
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49. Yep. Keith's wrong.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:47 AM
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58. IT'S NOT HIS FUCKING SEX LIFE
It's who he is. It's a core component of his personality. If he NEVER had sex again as long as he lived, he'd still be a gay man.

If we know that Celebrity or Newscaster A is married and has five kids, we don't know details about his sex life, but we do know he is (at least publicly) a heterosexual.

There should not be a double standard for gay people.

If we know who Keith Olbermann is dating, the press should also cover who Anderson Cooper is dating.

Being gay is not some fucking dark secret that we all have to conspire to hide.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:52 AM
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61. Solid point.
:thumbsup:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #58
65. I agree with you but browbeating Cooper
isn't "covering" the news.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:24 AM
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67. I'm fed up with gay public personalities relying on homophobia
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 11:25 AM by ruggerson
in the media to conspire with them to keep their "secret" hidden because they're worried they may make less money if they are authentic.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. I agree with that as well. The thing is, neither Cooper nor KO
handled this well, imho.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:32 PM
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26. Blue to match your eyes!! Holy Shit!
I salivate just thinking about KO is one of his dark pin striped suits right now...

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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:40 PM
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27. I'm love with Keith but he's getting a little petty with Anderson
He needs to get over the problems he's had with Anderson.

We need Keith on the air and don't want him to mess it up with this squabble with Anderson.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:48 PM
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29. Oh boy!
Keith Olbermann vs. Anderson Cooper

:popcorn:
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:50 PM
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32. My sister jokingly said,
You can never trust anyone with two last names.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:53 PM
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38. If you think about it
Both have two last names.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:02 PM
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33. I think Keith's comments on Anderson are petty. I love Keith, but he disappoints me on this one.
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 04:03 PM by BigBearJohn
I would think he was above this kind of thing.
People could start sneering about Keith's
"robbing the cradle."
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EmmitFitzhume Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:14 PM
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34. Above it?
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 04:14 PM by EmmitFitzhume
Olbermann has a long history of snarky and ill-advised comments regarding other reporters and anchors, whether they work for opposing channels or his own.

I can't say this surprises me.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:01 PM
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35. This could prove to be his downfall
I hope he thinks about this.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:12 AM
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48. Keith's downfall?
You are kidding, right?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:40 PM
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52. Of course I'm not kidding
Your enemies will always use your weaknesses against you.

This is Olbermann's achilles heel. If he claims that he's forcing a gay person to out himself is something that can be used against him. This can open the door to further claims of hypocrisy and open him up to further scrutiny.

Of course this could be his downfall. Do you think he's invincible because you like what he's saying?
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 07:52 PM
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53. Where did I say I like what he's saying.
You obviously need to take a tour through the reality based world.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 07:59 PM
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54. reality based world, that's rich n/t
I happen to like what he's saying. You've probably misinterpreted what I was saying, oh well.

I am a fan of Olbermann and would like to continue to hear what he's saying but if he starts to show himself as a petty bully that may damage his credibility.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:32 PM
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43. I'm sorry, but was that really necessary?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:36 PM
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44. I'm a little confused on the Anderson Cooper gay in/out issue...
I never got the impression Anderson Cooper was in the closet. Was he? From everything I've heard, he makes no secret of his sexual orientation off air and since he works for a news network, I don't see how the topic of his personal life would ever come up on camera.

I haven't read his book so I don't know if he discusses his love life or not so any clarification on this would be helpful.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:04 AM
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47. Keith is just wrong here.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 08:35 PM
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55. I agree, the man's not hurting anybody.
If he was a homophobic loudmouth, I'd say out him in a heartbeat. If he's simply someone who's not comfortable discussing his sexuality in public, leave the man alone.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:49 AM
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60. Keith is absolutely right
the double standard perpetuates homophobia.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:33 AM
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57. I love Keith, but when has he ever put himself in harm's way to
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 10:33 AM by Joe Fields
cover a story? It's easy to take potshots at someone from the safe confines of a secure studio in New Jersey.
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shortcake Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:47 AM
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59. I don't understand why KO cares.
What's it to him? I'm certainly no Brittany Spears fan, but I don't see why he's as nasty as he is about her. As a mother I see a young messed up kid. Why take pot shots at someone like that? As far as I know Anderson Cooper hasn't done anything to merit this. To all appearances Angelina Jolie does good things. I can't begin to pretend I know why she does what she does, but KO is snarky about that. His producer might make him do those segments, but I doubt if he says be as mean as possible.

Anyway you want to parse this we all know the difference be nice and nasty. This takes away from the rest of his show.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:52 AM
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62. I truly appreciate KO, but when somone gets this preachy and self-righteous...
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 10:54 AM by aikoaiko

... there is often a big fall from grace.

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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:05 AM
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63. When does KO talk about his sex life?
It wouldn't be an issue if he hadn't brought it up, but when is the last time he explained (since he seems to think one's private sex life needs a public explanation) why he is almost 50 years old and has never been married?

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It's nobody's business, but if he's going to be hypocritical in his trash talking a rival who appeals to a younger, hipper audience, he needs to be ready to unbosom himself of his own reasons for living his life the way he does.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:22 AM
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66. BEING GAY IS NOT "YOUR SEX LIFE"
It's who you are. If Cooper never had sex again, as long as he lived, he would still be a gay man.

It's about whom you fall in love with, whom you create a family structure with. It's not just "sex."

And reducing it to that plays right into the rightwing's mantra.

The right loves it when gay people remain invisible.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 12:31 PM
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68. I guess it should be termed KO's identity as a single man
I was trying to draw a comparison between KO's identity as an unmarried, lone man and AC's identity that KO for some reason wants to call into question. If KO thinks AC needs to tell us "who he is" by explaining his family structure, the KO should be ready to do the same.
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shortcake Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:14 AM
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64. There's another thread here about KO
dating a young girl and how it's nobody's business who he is dating.
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