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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:33 PM
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I know Jim Wallis' conservative religious views may not be highly popular here, but
he has always stood with us on most social issues. He is the publisher of Sojourners Magazine, which is a leftist social justice publication for religiously conservative Christians. I think we are fools to turn down alliances withpeople like Wallis simply because they may disagree on Biblical doctrine. Wallis sent this letter out stating his position on health care with the obvious intent of getting it the widest possible dissemination, and in the interest of pushing that cause along a little, I am giving it in its entirety here:


I am setting aside the formal columns, blogs, and interviews that are typical of my weekly communications and choosing instead to send you a personal and heartfelt letter.

As a nation, we are engaged in making decisions about our health care that will impact our families and communities for generations to come.



And I must personally share with you that I’ve had enough of the misinformation and, frankly, misleading statements coming from those who oppose the transformation of a health system that currently renders the best health care to the wealthiest, depletes the savings of solidly middle-class Americans, and leaves 46 million people with no health-care coverage at all.



We don’t have to fall victim to the naysayers – those seeking to prop up the status quo and sustain the profits of the massive insurance corporations.



Business as usual is not what we’re about. It’s not what change is about. It’s certainly not what people of good will from all faiths, who embrace the Golden Rule and seek the common ground of justice and fairness, are about.



During the last big national debate on health-care reform in the early 1990s, the religious community mostly stayed out of the discussion. Not this time.



A friend of mine recently traveled across several states in the U.S. visiting friends on summer vacation. He told me that, everywhere he went, people asked him to read e-mails they’d received. These e-mails had no author and no citations to support the misleading statements about health-care reform they contained – including the false claim that, if health-care reform passed, it would force families to see doctors and receive care dictated by a government panel. This is not true.



At a recent meeting of leading faith groups in Washington, D.C., a leader of a large, national organization said they were receiving calls asking if the elderly would be simply left to die if health-care reform passed. The answer is NO.



These egregious and false accusations are being created for only one purpose: to manipulate and instill fear in American citizens.



This must stop. We are the ones who can stop it. Together, speaking out, acting out, and joining as one on a mission, we can push back the clouds of misinformation and fear-mongering, and allow the light of truth shine through.



Today, right now, let’s join together making the health-care debate factual, worthy of our families and communities. Let’s put the special interests on notice that we want real health-care reform, not misinformation and fear-mongering.



Sojourners has created a rapid response Web site where you will find what you need to fight for the truth: Sojourners' Health Care Reform Resources.



At this Web site I want you to:



SIGN Sojourners’ Health-Care Creed and let Congress know you stand for values-based reform.



SHARE Sojourners’ Guide to the Health-Care Reform Debate with your church and neighbors.



DISTRIBUTE Sojourners’ two-page flyer with health-care reform facts and values at your small group or Bible study.



USE the messages and talking points that Sojourners has created in your discussions with others.



CALL your Members of Congress today, toll-free, at #1-866-279-5474 and ask them to vote for health-care reform.



We must act.



We must speak out in our communities, schools, and workplaces. If we all take part, then our voices will join thousands of others across the nation. Other things you can do include writing a letter to the editor of your local newspaper supporting health-care reform.



I pledge to you that I will do my part by keeping you updated on what’s happening here in Washington, D.C. Be prepared to receive action requests and notifications of conference calls that you should join.


Together, imagine the thousands of faithful voices speaking out, in unison – with all joining in.



Together, we can bring about the most sweeping change to our health-care system in history.



Together, passing health-care reform for our families is what people of good will from all faiths, who embrace the Golden Rule and seek the common ground of justice and fairness, can do. Join me.



Together on mission,



Jim
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:34 PM
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1. kick
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 04:03 PM
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9. .
:kick:
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:40 PM
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2. I like Jim Wallis for this:
Hope is believing in spite of the evidence, and watching the evidence change.
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:49 PM
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4. I've always liked Jim Wallis
He is a good man and a good christian. He took on Bush and the right-wing many times. Unlike most christians, he has actually read the new testament and understands that Jesus believed in caring for the sick and the poor. Him saying that Jon Stewart reminded him of a Jewish profit made me love him.

Good man and good find: K&R.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:43 PM
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3. Finally, somebody has asked "what would Jesus do?" and come up with the correct answer.
Frankly I have always wondered why Christians have been against some of the issues that are obviously the right and decent things to do. Like those that help others in need and issues taking care of our environment. That is what I grew up believing that Christianity was all about!

So I applaud this and hope for more. Maybe these people can get through the rock hard heads that are out there screaming and ranting about nonsense.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:55 PM
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7. Yup; this is why i left my last church. I didn't leave Jesus, just that church.
The parable of the "Good Samaritan" illustrated someone who helped his fellow human being at his own cost, not out of his surplus, discretionary income.

It takes more than praying for and wishing someone well. Whatever good is in your power to do it, you must do it. This is what taking up your cross is all about. Jesus said, "You will know them by their love," not by what denomination they belong to.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:21 AM
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30. I don't think it is a matter
of someone "finally" coming up with the right answer. Many, many, true Christians have always believed that. It is more like the MSM has found it to be more profitable to highlight the more sensational stories of the Christian Right, and the rest of us get short shrift.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:51 PM
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5. Only a fool would condemn fellow Americans trying to get good health care for all
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:51 PM
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6. Wallis is usually right on men's issues and general issues
but he's dead wrong when it comes to women.

He'd fight health insurance reform with everything he's got if it paid for therapeutic abortion.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:56 PM
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8. Someday I will find someone who agres with me on everything.
That will force me to chnge some of my beliefs, if only to assert my unique individuality.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:56 PM
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10. nice one! nt
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:06 PM
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11. Jim Wallis is not a conservative n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:39 PM
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12. Certainly not a POLITICAL conservative.
I was speaking only of religious conservatism. He's sort of a Protestant analog to the Catholic Workers.
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:03 PM
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13. In that sense, I guess you could call me a conservative
:) :hide:

For the record, it's not my job to judge others based upon what they do, only myself (and I suck).
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:59 PM
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18. I think there are a lot of people like you.
And I have no quarrel with anyone's belief system unless it leads them to impose arbitrary rules or judgments upon me.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:59 PM
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14. Buddhist here to say Props to Jim Wallis
Good example of the Bodhisattva vow in action; to seek to relieve human suffering, to develop a compassionate spirit of supporting others to towards their own happiness, empowerment, and development. No exceptions.


Shakyamuni Buddha says in the Lotus Sutra, "This is my constant thought; at all times I think, how can I cause all living beings, to achieve the body of a buddha, without distinction". "Body of a buddha" meaning a state of life characterized by joy, wisdom and courage, and the ability to overcome problems and be a positive influence on one's surroundings (society).
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:13 PM
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15. Do you have a link to that article? n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:12 PM
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19. I dug around & found a link.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:19 PM
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23. Thank you VERY much.
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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:35 PM
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16. I am so glad that Jim Walllis is getting involved
I truly believe that he is commited to working with Americans to help enact healthcare reform. He considers it to be a moral issue. I remember that he put a lot of pressure on W for not wanting to make the State Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) available to impoverished families.
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HarveyDarkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:43 PM
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17. I'm an atheist and I admire Jim Wallis
Seldom agree with him on a lot of issues, but his real life compassion for the poor and disenfranchised earns my respect.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:12 PM
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20. hates gays and women.
why should we care what this fuckwad Wallis says about anything?
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:35 PM
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24. What's your source?
links?
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TheCML Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:52 PM
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26. If he hates gays.
I guess Barack Obama does also, I believe their opinions on the matter are very similar.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:15 PM
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27. President Obama Can't Muster Up Enough Interest In Gay People to Hate Them.
But you're correct: Obama and Jim Wallis are both against equal rights for gay people.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:13 PM
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21. I'm not an evangelical and I like Wallis very much.
There was a time when evangelicals were part of the vanguard of most justice movements, and he is a reminder of that age.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:32 PM
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22. Following in the
steps of the biggest socialist, pro health care for all champion, ever.......a one Mr. Jesus H. Christ.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:11 AM
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33. !
I love Jesus!

I'm not fond of churches.

Jesus was killed by his Church-State.

Single Payer Health Care is the opposite of what/who killed Jesus.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:50 PM
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25. K&R
the comments on that site are pretty depressing though... have the reTHUGs completely corrupted the minds of most evangelical christens in America or are they part of the online corporate activism distorting reality?
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:34 PM
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28. Can't lump Jim Wallis in with the religious right
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 11:37 PM by Wheezy
That's for sure. I've also taken a liking to the Interfaith Alliance.

Thanks for posting -- kick and rec!

PS - if he doesn't support equal rights for gays, that's not okay. I see that's been mentioned in this thread. If it's true, I have a huge problem with that.
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TommyPaine Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:16 AM
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29. Despite my devout agnosticism, I do tend to agree with Wallis...
...on many issues, and have for some time. I would consider him an ally of sorts despite other issues I may have with him. Rarely would I not try to find some common ground with a reasonable person of faith.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:56 AM
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31. This fascinaing Guardian article addresses a similar theme:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:03 AM
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32. I wonder if those Catholic bishops who threatened Democratic politicians with excommunication
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 07:04 AM by PA Democrat
over the abortion issue will make the same threat to politicians who will not support health care reform?

Edit to add that I really like Jim Wallis. He is a better person than many of those who thump their bibles and proclaim their "Christianity" the loudest.
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