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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:18 PM
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The problem with America is that the opinions of stupid people are given too much import
Stupid people revel in their stupidity like it's a badge of honor.

To be stupid is to be a down to Earth, regular American... A "Real American".

They get angry, confused and frustrated when you talk to them in any language other than "stupid".

A stupid person never needs any proof to back up their stupid ideas. All they need is their gaping pie hole of a yapper and gaggle of other dumbasses who will agree with them.

They believe that it's their God-Given right to be a fucking moron, and no amount of education, books in a library or simple common sense will stand in their way.

They hate smart people, for no other reason than they are smart.

They hate people who are different than they are, for no other reason than they are different.

The patronizing cowards in politics and the media play footsie with these brain donors for no other reason than the country is just so damned infested by so many of the fuckers and they would ignore them at the peril of their phony-baloney jobs in politics and the media.

Stupid people are everywhere, and no part of the country has a monopoly of them. They could pop up at any time and any place in America and they are very hard to stop from fucking things up for the rest of us.

Stupid people love to breed, so there's more and more of them every day.

We really are headed for an "Idiocracy", aren't we?

Oh, well. If we're ever going to fix this country, we have a lot hard work to do... Even if we have to drag all of these fucking dumb as sacks of hammers assholes along with us kicking and screaming.



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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:19 PM
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1. Too true. K & R.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:20 PM
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2. Amen. Fortunately, the death panels should help weed them out.
;)
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:23 PM
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3. Eleetust!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:24 PM
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4. The media with their "some say/others say" crap make the stupid
MUCH MUCH bigger than it should be in public discourse.

More than 72% want health care reform... the rest are either bone-stupid or are making money on the way things are right now. Yet the media gives equal or greater time to the fringe.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:27 PM
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5. +infinity
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:31 PM
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6. In the past I have suggested a simple civics test to qualify voters
But I was shouted down by people here on DU who had a whole bunch of whiny excuses as to why we couldn't do it.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:36 PM
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11. Are remedial civics classes for those who fail & a chance to cast a ballot once they pass included?
I'm not a fan of preventing people from voting via poll tests. Smacks too much of the tests used to exclude black voters in the South back in the day.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:48 PM
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21. Because it's a stupid fucking idea.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:59 AM
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29. Voting is a constitutional right. What's whiney about not wanting that right perverted? (nt)
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:58 PM
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36. A test with stupid questions poorly thought out written by stupid ...
people will eliminate intelligent people. Not a theory. Happens all the time.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:33 PM
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7. I'm sometimes amazed that you guys ever put a man on the moon.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:36 PM
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9. The right wing hadn't yet started their crusade against education.
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 06:37 PM by EFerrari
We didn't have an anti-intellectual movement back then. As another DUer reminded me the other day, Kennedy was dissed for all the "Harvard guys" in his government by Nixon but that criticism didn't yet resonate. :shrug:
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:27 AM
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27. You couldn't be more wrong.
It was precisely at that time that Hofstadter wrote his great classic "Anti-Intellectualism in American Life), in 1964. Conservatives have been championing stupidity for quite a while in American history.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:08 AM
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31. Besides, some will tell ya that we never really went to the moon
it was just a movie set in Arizona.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:34 PM
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8. It's more accurate to say the right wing recruits people too stupid
to see through their propaganda. And that they foster stupidity, illiteracy, reactivity the way my mom fosters tomato plants.

Who else but stupid people would rampage against their own health care?

If you want to fuck over the American people, I promise you that recruiting stupid, uneducated, reactive people to promote your cause is a lot easier than arguing your case like an adult and trying to get thinking people on your side. It's a natural.

And when you put that together with the same right wing owning the media, you've given the mic to these people who have to count on their fingers and toes and who move their lips when they read.

We're not headed for idiocracy, we're there. They have the floor.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:47 PM
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19. It isn't stupidity. It's fearfulness stemming from insecurity. Education helps but it's not
definitive.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:56 PM
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23. I'm beginning to believe it really is stupidity.
I've been as economically insecure as anyone can be without actually being homeless for the last two years and yet, disrupting public meetings because some hater on the radio told me to has never occurred to me once.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:36 PM
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10. -- Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:36 PM
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12. Stupidity and intentional ignorance have become admirable traits to some.
It is sad and scary.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:38 PM
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13. And rude and childish behavior are celebrated.
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 06:38 PM by Hansel
The media should not be discussing whether these groups are astroturf or grassroots.

They should be discussing when adults shouting over and screaming at other people, not allowing others to talk, pushing and shoving, and throwing public temper tantrums became acceptable. Then they need to go look in the mirror for the root cause.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:38 PM
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14. At some point
we're going to have to separate into two species: the Neosapiens and the Idiosapiens. The idiots are too much of a drag on the rest of us.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:39 PM
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15. Amen Brother...
and our corporate masters know this and know how to manipulate them. Now more than ever, America is the place where the saying "where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise" applies
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:39 PM
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16. rofl! sad, funny..and true
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:43 PM
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17. And they wonder why we want to improve education!
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heppcatt Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:44 PM
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18. I do agree with the OP but.......
There is a difference between someone who is manipulated.
And someone who is ignorant and should know better.

I think much of this cultural stupidity is just laziness.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:47 PM
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20. Yup.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:51 PM
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22. education, books, libraries?
aren't they for libruls?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:56 PM
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24. Also stupid people don't know the are stupid so are vocal in their ignorance
on the right and on the left sadly.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:12 PM
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25. No... the problem is r-w propaganda making people stupid and spread by Limbaughs . . .
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 10:12 PM by defendandprotect
which is why we need to reinstate the Fairness in Broadcasting rules --
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:57 PM
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26. That would explain this Twitter shit.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:53 AM
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28. The "man on the street" is given as much weight as an expert.
It's the false presumption that every issue has at least two relevent sides. Not true. But thanks to the constant drumbeat of "the liberal media", that's how it's presented.


Where is this liberal media? Not in the news, certainly.


It's in entertainment. TV shows, both day and night, are filled with out-of-wedlock sex, bad language, sexy stars in sexy outfits, drinking, lying, deceit, mocking and disregard of church life and institutions, and general shallowness... and lack Good Old American Christian Values like chastity, prayer, reverence, and church.



But in the news... what do we have? Opinions, speculation, sound bites, gory big-rig accidents on the local highway, talking points... and the presumption that all sides have relevency on some issue.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 05:44 AM
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33. Yep. I've had to pass around this video too many times...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:58 AM
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34. Wow, that we very good.
I've saved that for future reference.


Here's one back at ya.... Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAq9bmCeR0
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:03 PM
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38. And how often do you see pundits arguing each other?
As if they know ANYTHING about the issue? They're journalists fer chrissakes. They interview each other on the merits of mass transit and cap-and-trade and C.A.R.S. - like they know anthing about the real workings of the program. Heaven forbid we should hear from actual people in the government.

We're so fucked.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:04 AM
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30. Stupidity is a condition of birth. Ignorance is a lifestyle choice.
I have a great deal more respect for people whose IQs differ from mine than for those who have made a conscious choice to embrace ignorance as a way of life. Some of the most compassionate and truly good people I know are of below-average intelligence by conventional standards. Willful ignorance and mean-spiritedness, not stupidity, are the problems.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 05:33 AM
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32. This is the Smartest and Most Accurate Analysis
I've read on the problem this Country has right now. :applause:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:11 PM
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35. K&R
:kick:
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:00 PM
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37. Objectivity is in the eye of the beholder.
Want to argue about that? My point is proved.
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