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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:39 PM
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Top Blue Dog Boasts: "We Held Bill Hostage," Killed Single Payer
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 01:41 PM by tblue37
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/top-blue-dog-b...
From The Huffington Post

Rep. Mike Ross on Thursday boasted about how his Blue Dog coalition "held the bill hostage in committee for 10 days" and prevented a single player plan.

The Arkansas Democrat said that the conservative group's opposition ensured "that we don't end up with some type of single payer system," Firedoglake reported.
We ensured that if there is a government option, it will be just that -- an option -- and it won't be mandated on anybody. If it had been based on Medicare rates, I can assure you that it would have eventually ended up resulting in a single payer-type system, because Medicare has really good rates, because they're negotiating for every senior in America. Private insurance companies could not have competed with that. And so we would have at the end of the day ended up with single payer. Now we've leveled the playing field, if there is a government option they'll have to go out again and negotiate with providers just like private insurance companies do. That was important to me to insure that we don't end up with some type of single payer system.
We need to start mounting serious primary challenges. They need to be afraid of doing such things, much less boasting about them.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:44 PM
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1. K&R #1 n/t
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:45 PM
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2. Well he's from AR and that is one conservative area....he is a republican wonder how much he has
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 01:45 PM by bkkyosemite
gotten from ole insurance industry.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:48 PM
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6. Insurance Industry Is Generous To Blue Dogs
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

On June 19, Rep. Mike Ross of Arkansas made clear that he and a group of other conservative Democrats known as the Blue Dogs were increasingly unhappy with the direction that health-care legislation was taking in the House.

"The committees' draft falls short," the former pharmacy owner said in a statement that day, citing, among other things, provisions that major health-care companies also strongly oppose.

Five days later, Ross was the guest of honor at a special "health-care industry reception," one of at least seven fundraisers for the Arkansas lawmaker held by health-care companies or their lobbyists this year, according to publicly available invitations.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:57 PM
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12. Ross Is A Dem. He's Currently In His 5th Term .....
the last election he won with 86%. He represents the 4th district in Arkansas which is primarily the whole southern part of the state. If there is anybody here from Arkansas - who challenged him the last time and are there possible candidates there that can unseat this guy? We need to move people like him out of Congress.
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:16 PM
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31. What I meant to say is he mise well be a republican because his actions are republican and wants
those votes from a very republican state.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:46 PM
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3. If yer dog won't behave and mind you, time for new dog
Adios, Blue Dog.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:46 PM
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4. Who needs pugs when you have blue dogs?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:47 PM
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5. However, he is not saying he is against a government option
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:56 PM
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11. Just not one that costs less than Private Insurance....'cause
that would be UNFAIR!!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:49 PM
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7. So, Rep. Ross, you are PROUD of fucking over the country?
Really? It's important to you that there is no single payer available? Guess that means you are proud that your actions will help continue to screw the people of this country over.

I cannot even put into words how disgusting I think your words and your actions are.

I cannot even describe how angry I am.

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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:50 PM
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8. I believe someone deserves a deluge of pissed off e-mails and phone calls. nt
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:51 PM
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9. Does he have an opponent yet?
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 01:51 PM by Historic NY
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:08 PM
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15. Ross had no Republican opponent in his last re-election.
Because his seat is considered safe for him. He generally keeps his seat every election with 75% - 87% of the vote.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:20 PM
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41. Well perhaps he needs a primary challenger.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:53 PM
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10. Heaven forbid we should pay medicare rates because they are
so inexpensive.

"Damn, I will not stand by and watch those poor fellers in the medisurnace conglomerates cut their costs just so taxpayers and average citizens can get a break. Where does the White House think we live in France or Canada?" cong Ross...

I showd them, damn straight.

And the mob goes wild.

"Thank you for not cutting our medical costs, congressman Ross, thank you for opening the door for more cost increases so that I can continue to struggle just like god and Jesus says I should..."
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:02 PM
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13. If I remember rightly, Jesus didn't require...
..a deductible or a co-pay.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:06 PM
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14. LOL but Jesus had eternal life. n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:13 PM
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16. Sure 'nuff did and we is gonna join him the the hear after....
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:14 PM
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17. As an Arkansan, I apologize.
We used to send people with integrity to Congress.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:36 PM
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21. As a constituent of Ross, please send him a note
saying that he has been cursed with cancer of the tongue
by a powerful witch from Kaleeforniah who won't abide corporatist girlie men.

Thanks.

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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:18 PM
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18. Pure bullshit....The Dems are scared of a vote being recorded...
Pelosi and those spineless chairmen of the committees are afraid of anything that will stop the bribes from the insurance crooks!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:22 PM
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19. So, this shit stain runs again in November?
I am hoping there is a Dem primary prior to...cuz anyone who runs against the POS will get a donation from me.

:mad:
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:31 PM
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20. He is simply doing his bidding
Putting Corporate profits before We the People.
But We are taking names.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:46 PM
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22. when is this guy up for re-election?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:21 PM
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24. Every 2 years. He's a Congressman. NT
NT
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:11 PM
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26. i wasn't sure if they staggered elections like the senate
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:21 PM
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23. What a slimeball. NT
NT
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:29 PM
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25. Mike Ross wouldn't be in office if it weren't for Bill Clinton
Ungrateful schmuck.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:54 PM
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30. What did Bill Clinton do for him? NT
NT
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:12 PM
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38. He campaigned for him against Jay Dickey. This district contains Hope, AR
A very popular President having your back to win his hometown? Goes a long way ...
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:12 PM
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27. Meet little Mikie.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:12 PM
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28. Yes, we certainly do.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:31 PM
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29. Pity nobody can kill his benefits. He's a big BABY.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:00 PM
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32. Wow. I went to a baby shower and then to tutor--and I came
home to find my post had 31 recs. It seems to have hit a nerve. Of course, I am not surprised, because that's exactly the way I felt when I first saw the headline to this article on HuffPo--really pissed off!
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:08 PM
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33. Can't find words
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:11 PM
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34. The only thing worse than a neocon is a neocon enabler
"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," - Dennis Kucinich
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:38 PM
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35. And DU's fake Democrat posts threads gloating about any setback
for Health Care reform.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:49 PM
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36. Prez Obama had the support of Jim Cooper in the primaries and election. Cooper is THE
guy that stopped healthcare reform for a generation.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:58 PM
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37. Why do Democrats only neuter their yellow dogs???
Folks like Ross make me happy I'm not a Democrat. Being an independent liberal means never having to say I'm sorry.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:32 PM
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39. And we boast they'll never be re-elected
:puke:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:06 PM
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40. k i c k
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:24 PM
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42. Somebody needs to learn not to count his chickens before they've hatched.
That said, we can't effectively purge the party of all the moderate and conservative Dems. Period. Besides the fact that most of those districts will not elect a true liberal, there's the fact that trying to purge the moderates is what got the GOP where it is.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:39 AM
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43. Send this to everyone you know who lives in AK?
surely someone lives there.

sorry, my bad.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:26 AM
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44. Putting insurance companies over Americans. Sounds....Republican.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:23 PM
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45. remember folks... these corpocrats are a minority
the money and effort by these pricks won't be enough. Amp up the pressure and they will do our bidding.

PS - don't allow naysayers to dissuade you. If ya have to, place them on "ignore".
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