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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:28 PM
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Pictures of the Coffee with the Congressman I attended this morning
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 01:40 PM by proud2BlibKansan
I blogged from the event: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Sorry this is more of a narrative but my battery gave out on my camera and a bunch of the pictures I thought I took didn't get taken. :(

Congressman Emanuel Cleaver has a coffee once a month and meets individually with constituents who come and sign up to talk to him. I have been to several of these coffees and he usually talks to the crowd for a few minutes before he starts his individual meetings, but today he did not address the crowd as a whole. Wise decision, IMO.

It was so insane. The coffee started at 8 am and we got there at 7. The place was already packed and there was nowhere to sit. Right after we got our coffee (about 7:30) they ran out of coffee.

There were a bunch of teabaggers wearing this shirt. It said '912' on the front. They also had several flags with '912' on them. Anyone know what that means?



I never did get a good count or a good picture of the crowd so I can't tell you how many teabaggers vs health care supporters were there. I think it was about half and half. But the teabaggers were determined to be louder. Sorry my camera battery gave out so I took this with my phone.



I was with a bunch of union friends and the crowd was so large the congressman's aide decided to have him sit out on the patio rather than inside. So my union friends and I formed a circle around Cleaver's table and acted as a buffer between him and the lunatics. While we waited for him, we had several interesting conversations with the lunatics.





Sorry this is a bad picture but I knew you all would be thrilled to know Glen Beck fans were out in full force. :sarcasm:



This one citizen had a file folder full of that obnoxious Obama/Joker picture and was passing them out as we stood on the patio. He handed me one and I ripped it in half. He then walked over and taped one to the window and a man immediately walked over and took it down. A heated conversation between the two then took place. The man who took the picture down walked by us and we asked what the other guy said and he said the lunatic/citizen claimed it was his free speech rights to put up that picture and he told him no, he was the owner of this coffee shop and this was private property. Then I watched as a plain clothed sheriff's deputy followed the lunatic/citizen and stood next to him and the group he was with.

My DFA group endorsed the county sheriff and he was there in a Hawaiian shirt with about 6 plain clothed deputies. He came over and waved at us and then Cleaver came in and he immediately followed him and stood behind him as he met with folks. I talked to him about the lunatics and he said he has officers following their Tweets and reading their websites and as soon as he finds any threats or anyone urging others to be violent or bring weapons to an event in his county, they would be arrested.

A girl standing right behind us was holding one of the joker pictures up and I asked her if she was a racist. She said no and seemed offended. I asked her why she was holding up a racist sign if she wasn't a racist. She again denied she was a racist. An African American woman walking by stopped, looked at her sign and said "Yes, young lady, that is indeed a racist sign" and the girl held the sign up even higher.

When Cleaver came out and sat down the teabaggers began chanting. After a few minutes I guess they realized he wasn't going to address the crowd. The lunatics around us were complaining and we told them he does this once a month and if you want to talk to him, go right over there to his aide who has a clipboard in his hand and sign up to talk to him. They kept on about how he should talk to the entire group. Finally one of the folks I was standing with said "Why should he do that, so you people can shout him down?" And the guy shook his head and laughed.

That same guy told us that he was on welfare as a child and so he knew the system was corrupt. I said he looked like a very healthy adult so it sounds like my tax dollars kept him healthy as a child, paid for his health care, immunizations and education. He said again that the system is broken and I asked if he planned on refusing Medicare, since he looked old enough to be eligible. He said yes.

I asked several people that question. I said "Well you look old enough to be eligible for Medicare. Did you refuse it?" Even if they were obviously young, I asked them that if they seemed to be at least 40. Most did not answer.

My very favorite lunatic was this woman. Obviously old enough for Medicare. Holding a sign that said NO GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE. I stood by her for a long time and heard at least 6 people ask her if she had refused Medicare and she never answered. She was glad to talk about what was wrong with government health care but she never did admit refusing it herself.



A young woman came over to my group and asked us if we had read the health care bill. I asked which one. She said "The Pence Amendment". I said that's an amendment, not a bill. She said well it says that the government will pay for my abortion if I get pregnant. My friend said no, that's not in the bill and the girl said yes it is because there is money for Planned Parenthood in that bill. I said I was grateful for PP, that I had no health insurance for about 10 years when I was young and if it wasn't for PP, I wouldn't have had any health care at all. And I had never had an abortion. My friend asked her if she realized PP makes birth control available to many women and that actually prevents abortion. The young woman said "Well why do you need to have sex if you aren't planning on getting pregnant? That's fool proof birth control!" And a lady who just happened to be walking by stopped and said "Well I can tell that not having sex isn't a problem for you. As for me, no thanks!" I thought I was going to fall over from laughing.

Later a man came over to talk to me and an African American woman and was explaining why he opposed government health care. He said he was 56 and didn't have to worry about refusing Medicare since it would be broken by the time he was old enough to be eligible. He then said he had just had a conversation with a young "African American woman over there" and he pointed and went on to tell us what she had said. When he was done I asked him why it was necessary to describe the woman he talked to as African American. He froze. Then he stuttered "Well because she WAS African American" And I asked what difference that made. He froze again. The African American woman I was with said "Answer her question. Why did you have to describe her as African American?" He then threw up his hands and walked off.

I tell ya, it was hard not to die laughing at these lunatics. I walked by one woman and heard her say "Pretty soon the government is going to be telling me how much toilet paper I can use to wipe my ass!"

I sat down next to another older gentleman who was talking to a young man about corruption in the government and started telling him about chemtrails. Just then a plane flew overhead. The man looked up, caught my eye and I said "You guys better take cover!" He frowned and got up and walked away.

We walked by a lady holding a sign that said NAME ONE COUNTRY WHERE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE WORKS. I said "Cuba" and kept walking. By that time I was too worn out to wait for their reaction.

OMG there were dozens of petitions. I signed them all with this (and made sure I took up at least two lines):

YOU PEOPLE ARE OUT OF YOUR EVER LOVIN MINDS

One girl was walking around asking folks if they wanted to sign up for the teabaggers email list. I said sure, took her clipboard and wrote:

YOU ARE STANDING ON A SIDEWALK PAID FOR WITH TAX DOLLARS!! QUICK!! MOVE AWAY!!!

To her credit, she laughed and said "Good one!"

When the event was over several of us had a quick meeting and decided to make a petition to take to the next event that says the following:
I AGREE TO REFUSE MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY WHEN ELIGIBLE. IF I AM ON MEDICARE AND/OR SOCIAL SECURITY NOW, I AGREE TO BEGIN REFUSING THE PAYMENTS TOMORROW.

And we will then send the petition to our congressmen. :)

Oops edit to add I forgot to tell about the guy who claimed he was paying $6000 a month for health insurance and yes he did refuse Medicare. He later admitted he was paying for 10 employees. And we asked him if he didn't think that $600 a month for health insurance was a bit steep. HELLO?!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:35 PM
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1. Good work! Thanks!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:36 PM
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3. You are most welcome
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:36 PM
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2. You are fucking awesome!
Superbly done!

I am so proud of your actions!

And I wish I could recommend this thread of yours a thousand times!

:fistbump:

:headbang:

:yourock:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:36 PM
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4. Oh Peggy
If you knew how much fun it was you wouldn't be praising me :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:37 PM
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6. Hell yes, I would!
Having fun is the icing on the cake!

:hug:
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:37 PM
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5. Sounds like a good time was had by all..
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 01:38 PM by TreasonousBastard
and you've got the way to defuse the teabaggers.

It's just too bad that dealing with teabaggers seems like the order of the day now.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:41 PM
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7. I so enjoy laughing at their ignorance
$6000 a month for health insurance! And no, he doesn't mind paying it. Yeah, right.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:52 PM
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16. I used to carry around Marine recruiting forms for...
when I ran into the pro-war types.

I'm thinking your petition would be a handy thing to carry around now.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:01 PM
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37. LOL me too!
Probably got that idea here!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:42 PM
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8. our small town news paper just
announced a tea party....I have been contemplating going...I may have to get your petition to take with me.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:42 PM
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9. Yes please do!!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:42 PM
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10. So many wingnuts, so little time. Thanks for posting!
:fistbump:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:43 PM
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11. You deserve a medal
Good lord.

:wow:

I guess I should be grateful all I have to deal with are people who are adament about single payer, lol.

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:45 PM
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12. Great post.
K & R
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:47 PM
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13. Thanks for going - and thanks for sharing your experience!
Very well done.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:48 PM
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14. Recommending.
Thank you for doing what I, so far away, cannot do.

:kick:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:52 PM
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15. Thanks for an enjoyable thread.
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 01:52 PM by Cleita
I wish we had meetings like that in my area. I would love to talk to the tea baggers and tell them how ashamed they make me to be an American. Did you ever find out what the 912 was supposed to mean?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:53 PM
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17. "912" means they're part of
Glen Beckerhead's 9/12 group, a group of angry, paranoid people who are too fuggin stupid to know what they're angry about or scared of.

They're loud, they're organized, they're total sheep.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:50 AM
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84. Yeah, he wants the country
back the way it was one day after 9/11. You know, when W Bush had high approval ratings and the country was ready to follow him over the cliff.
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:12 AM
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93. Would that mean
We wouldn't have the Patriot Act, Cell phone tapping, Torture, Cheney's assination team, Shock and Awe, And all the rest of the Bushit. Hmmm, there ought to be a compromise of some sorts here. We should contact satin and ask.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:54 PM
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18. Thanks! This was great!
Really appreciate the detailed account.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:56 PM
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19. 9 principles - 12 values.
(first Google hit on "912").

http://www.the912project.com
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:20 PM
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27. I was gonna guess, the day after 9/11...
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:23 PM
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29. yep,it is the date:The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were
on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

oh boy, what fun. Let's go back to 9-12! what a great idea.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:50 PM
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44. I'm glad I'm not the only one
who thinks that sounds like a horrible day to revisit.

On that day, I was still trying to find out where my niece was, since she was traveling for work. Also on 9-12 my co-worker dumped her work off on me because she was afraid to give a training session at the International Institute. I guess because there might have been Muslims there, and as she so nicley (and incorrectly) put it - "you're arab aren't you? well, you kinda look Middle Eastern or something anyway so maybe they'll treat you better" Whatever the hell all that was supposed to mean, and for the record I'm Armenian.

I don't have warm, fuzzy feelings for that day. I also don't remember hearing that Glenn Beck was involved in protecting the greatest nation ever created, as he puts it.

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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:57 PM
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20. Thank you so much
It almost felt like being there!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:05 PM
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21. The lady with the flag-CONUS t-shirt probably doesn't know/care that some of her cohort want
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 02:08 PM by patrice
to take a big ol' chunk out of south-central & south-east CONUS. There is a REASON why Sarah Palin is supported by

SECESSIONISTS

Secessionists are using the lady with the flag-CONUS t-shirt and un-informed people like her.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:45 PM
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51. My new sign
COUNTRIES WITH SOCIALIZED MEDICINE THAT WORKS:

CUBA

IRAQ

ENGLAND

CANADA

GERMANY

FRANCE

JAPAN

AUSTRALIA

(etc)
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:33 AM
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81. Add Austria!
How about Sweden?

What kinds of systems do Denmark and Finland have?
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 06:34 AM
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87. The Netherlands!
We've got quite good healthcare. Costs me around 100 euros a month. Ten years ago, it cost me 10/month.
I guess going to war with the bog boys, bailing out the banks of the big boys, and landing international top jobs for the big boys cost us a lot of money. So much, in fact, that only socialised health care makes enough money to pay for it all.

I think the whole thing is nuts. US Americans are being willfully ignorant. Whatever happened to reason? Thousands of years of teaching, studying, reading and writing, and the best some can come up with is a misspelled sign which advocates hatred and an end to individual, original thought. Wow.

Make no mistake. The US are to a lot of people around the world something to look up to. 'If it's from the States, it must be good. They saved our asses in WWII, so they must be doing something right.'
Unfortunately, we're being played. Which is not that bad, since we're being played from the other side of the Atlantic. We still have our own playground here.
You (US Americans) on the other hand, are fucked.

Tell me, anybody. Who thinks Obama is fixing the corrupted heart of Govt? As in, REALLY getting the corrupted lobbyists and ditto senators of The Hill?
I doubt it. Meet the new boss...
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:09 PM
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98. All of Scandinavia. Government run healthcare that is far superior to the US's.
AND a higher standard of living to boot.

I would be willing to bet that people that say stuff like this have never left their own county.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:06 PM
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22. Thanks so much for your efforts. I enjoyed the pictures and
the commentary. You and your union crew did 'good.' Don't know what we'd do without our union brothers and sisters. Thank you ever so much, again. :hug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:27 PM
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53. Go UNION!!
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:06 PM
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23. Thanks for the report and photos...
I followed you blog this morning and hoped for this... great work! You inspire us all to get out there and confront the ignorance head on!

:yourock:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:12 PM
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24. Great story. Good work. Biiig rec.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:39 PM
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54. Thanks muchly!!
:hi:
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:17 PM
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25. loved all the anecdotes!
thank you so much for sharing, and for being there and hitting those assholes up the way they deserve to be. maybe just maybe that old lady will go home and rethink her position (99% certain she is on medicare after all). and this story really caught my imagination:

Later a man came over to talk to me and an African American woman and was explaining why he opposed government health care. He said he was 56 and didn't have to worry about refusing Medicare since it would be broken by the time he was old enough to be eligible. He then said he had just had a conversation with a young "African American woman over there" and he pointed and went on to tell us what she had said. When he was done I asked him why it was necessary to describe the woman he talked to as African American. He froze. Then he stuttered "Well because she WAS African American" And I asked what difference that made. He froze again. The African American woman I was with said "Answer her question. Why did you have to describe her as African American?" He then threw up his hands and walked off.

don't you wish that just one time, the racist would say, "because i'm a racist who is incapable of looking past the color of a person's skin?" of course it will never happen. the girl with the sign great example. pure denial.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:22 PM
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49. Forgot this till just now ~
An older white woman who was wearing a pro-life t-shirt came over to where I was standing talking to 2 African American women and told them abortion is 21st century eugenics for the black race. The African American women just froze, I could tell they didn't know what to say. So I told the old lady she was incredibly misinformed not to mention rude and she needed to GO, and I waved my hand. She walked away.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:57 PM
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71. that's amazing
and pathetic. i find it hard to believe that people can actually believe this crap yet i know that some do. the rest are cynics exploiting the delusional and irrationally angry few.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:55 AM
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85. Their only source of information is
misinformation provided by Faux, Beck and Limbaugh.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:18 PM
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26. these people are like sheep protesting on behalf of wolves. n/t
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:41 PM
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43. +1 good one! (nt)
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:22 PM
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28. Great idea about the petition
:hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:16 PM
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52. I am definitely doing that.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:26 PM
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30. This is a great post. Thank you!
Very interesting and fun to read.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:27 PM
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31. Way to go Proud!
You go girl!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:25 PM
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40. Hey you would have loved it!
It was like a morning in an insane asylum.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:27 PM
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32. Great job!
You almost make me feel sorry for them. Did you get to speak with the Congressman?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:24 PM
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50. No but I know him pretty well and can talk to him whenever I want
And I don't live in his district. I waved at him and he waved back.

I sure felt sorry for him. What a bunch of lunatics.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:35 PM
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33. "912" is lobbyist Dick Armey's astroturf project, paid for by his corporate clients
Go here:

http://www.freedomworks.org /

And click "March on Washington" and follow the link to http://912dc.org / - where you can purchase your t-shirt.


From ThinkProgress:



http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/14/lobbying-clients-te... /

FreedomWorks Orchestrates Grassroots Movements To Serve Dick Armeys Corporate Clients

ThinkProgress reported last week that corporate lobbyists are helping to orchestrate the anti-Obama tea party protests. These lobbying-run front groups, along with promotion help from Fox News, are organizing the tea parties by calling right-wing activists and asking them to organize. They are also coordinating conference calls among activists, writing press releases, providing sign ideas, building websites supporting the protests, and distributing talking points so that the protesters can stay on message.

Today, FreedomWorks Adam Brandon responded to the criticism that its efforts to organize these anti-Obama protests are astroturf, saying that the organizations work in coordinating and planning the events would be akin to MoveOns model. However, MoveOn is not run by corporate lobbyists and is funded by actual grassroots activists. On the other hand, the leader of FreedomWorks, Dick Armey, who is ranked as one of DCs top hired guns, is a corporate lobbyist with a history of directing FreedomWorks to support the goals of his lobbying clients. For example:

Armeys FreedomWorks is actively organizing against health care reform. Indeed, Armeys lobbying firm represents pharmaceutical companies, such as Bristol-Myers Squibb, that oppose comparative effectiveness research in the health reform plan because such a program may cut into revenue for branded drugs.

Armeys lobbying firm represents the trade group for the life insurance industry. Indeed, FreedomWorks mobilizes its members for deregulated life insurance reform.

Currently, FreedomWorks is focusing their energy activism on supporting the status quo reliance on fossil fuels. In addition to working for various domestic oil companies with a vested interest in opposing change, Armeys lobbying firm represents Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister of the UAE, on energy related issues such as maintaining the U.S.-UAE relationship where U.S companies have played major roles in the development of UAE energy resources, which represent about 10 percent of global oil reserves.

In 2006, Armeys lobbying firm represented the Senado de Republica (Mexican Senate) on enhancing U.S.-Mexico relations, and specifically on immigration policy. Curiously, during the same period, Armeys Freedom Works stood out as one of the few right wing organizations to boldly support comprehensive immigration reform.

Last year, the Wall Street Journal exposed FreedomWorks for building amateur-looking websites to promote the lobbying interests of Armey.

FreedomWorks represents a top-down, corporate-friendly approach that has been the norm for conservative organizations for years. As Obama prepares to push to close corporate tax loopholes, reform health care, and transition to a clean energy economy, we can expect more corporate lobbyists to create astroturf protests to oppose change.



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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:07 PM
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38. Thank you
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:37 PM
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34. nice work.
i don't know how you can stand it.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:39 PM
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35. Great post!
Way to go proud!
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:53 PM
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36. Petitions!
That idea is going to be shared around here immediately. Phenomenal!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:19 PM
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39. 912 project -
I went looking for that info earlier myself - this is from a post I made in GD about what I found:

"First there's this:

http://www.the912project.com/2009/08/05/85-september-12 ... /

Then I went to: http://www.grassfire.org/118/signup.asp

and here: http://guest.cvent.com/EVENTS/Info/Summary.aspx?e=5ba07 ...

That site has lots of information - and names - that should be looked into, imo.

Then I went here:

http://glennbeck.meetup.com / (yeah - ick factor) "



From there I looked up my local group - some of them are not "private" so you can see who all of their members are and the outrageous things they say. . . It's a good way to keep track of the crazies.

Sounds like your group did a good job of helping to keep things "civil" - and made some very good points that just may get through to *some* people at least.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:34 PM
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42. Thanks so much!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:31 PM
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41. I really enjoyed reading this.
Thanks for the report.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:55 PM
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45. Thanks for sharing!
You are very patient. I'm also impressed with how well it went, kudos to all involved.

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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:03 PM
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46. 912 = 9/12?
I thought I read they plan ti further exploit 9/11 and hold some kind of march the next day.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:15 PM
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47. proud2BlibKansan , you did an awesome job! You defused them with humor and common sense.
You deserve a big kick and rec.
I wish we had a place to defuse these people in CT...I need to look into it. Being a more blue state in the northeast, I don't think we attract as many crazies.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:13 PM
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48. This congressman's district is pretty blue
We don't think most of these people even lived in his district.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:53 PM
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58. True, they can show up anywhere, right?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:45 PM
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55. LOL! We need to clone you, lady.
:yourock:

:rofl:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:11 AM
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77. Nah. My husband can't keep up with ONE of me
He was too funny when I got home. He was going to his union picnic and I asked if he wanted me to come along. He said no you stay here and rest. You had a long morning. I said really, I don't mind if you want me to come. And he said no, I really don't want you to come.

Sometimes I embarrass him but he's too sweet to say so :)
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:18 PM
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56. OMGoddess, you made my day, I just had to laugh reading your commentary
You did a great job confronting them with facts and humor to go along with it :O

Also good ideas when signing their petitions. Take up as much space and write something that "should" make them "THINK" although that seems to be a lost cause. They don't want to have to think for themselves, it is so much easier to have someone TELL you how to THINK.


:applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock: :applause: :yourock:



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spedtr90 Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:30 PM
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57. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your experience and making me feel just a little bit better! Not only did you put the crazies to shame with the truth, but you demonstrated how adults and true patriots behave. I hope they picked up on something! THANK YOU!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:14 AM
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78. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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spedtr90 Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:48 AM
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94. Hello!
I have been an avid reader for some time - this seemed to be where I'd end up to keep my sanity.
I'd been hesitant to join in*, so I appreciate your welcome!


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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:01 PM
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59. "NAME ONE COUNTRY WHERE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE WORKS"?
Well...Sorry but I'm under the impression by personal experience and research as well as asking folks flat out that everyone that does works better than what we have now.

What kind of stupid command is that: "NAME ONE COUNTRY WHERE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE WORKS"?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:17 PM
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64. RWer at work got in my face with that. I said "All of Them. Any questions?"
It's not a lie either. Some work better, some are cheaper than others, but they all work.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:25 PM
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65. I think they've got this "a friend of a friend in Canada rumor bullshit" going one.
Funny thing is...RWers really aren't too good at making friends with people who are not Americans. Enemies yes...friends no.

It's the downside of being a nationalist dipshit.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:52 PM
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66. They don't know how to talk to African Americans
I can't even count the number of 'Hi, see I can be nice to black folks' conversations I overhead this morning.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:25 AM
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90. And the moment the back is turned and they are in the secure company of their own
The N-word comes right out. As a midwestern male who looks a little rough sometimes they've pull that shit on me.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:13 PM
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72. Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Germany, Great Britain, Norway, Sweden, Italy, in fact
the whole of fucking Europe and the Middle East, Israel and just about every frigging country on the planet except the poorer African countries which have been ripped of by us and can't afford anything.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:15 PM
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73. "Well why do you need to have sex ......."
:crazy: :shrug: :rofl:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:40 AM
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82. Better question: Name one country with socialized medicine where
the system doesn't work? It pretty much works everywhere.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:13 PM
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60. Good job, excellent report!
Great comebacks, too! :yourock:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:17 PM
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61. No beer summit? n/t
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:55 PM
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62. Thanks for sharing your story and the pics. Great job.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:06 PM
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63. Great report, thank you for posting. k+r, n/t
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:10 PM
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67. I'd like to see your petition go viral
Maybe add: "Since I understand that streets and sidewalks are paid for by taxes, I agree to flap my arms to get to the next town hall meeting."
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:49 PM
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68. You totally rock. I love everything you said and did. You are my latest HERO. Thank you!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:55 PM
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70. She's been my hero for quite some time
Good job, AS ALWAYS, and much love for you Proud!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:01 AM
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76. Ah, backatcha friend!
:hug:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:54 PM
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69. Nice report -- thank you -- !!!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:42 AM
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74. Terrific recap. Thanks! nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:00 AM
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75. GREAT report. Thanks so much for taking the time to keep us informed....
Having to sign up to speak is a great idea....Takes away the anonymity, and certainly takes away some of the insanity.

The "I am refusing Medicare" petitions are a great idea!! LOLOLOLOL
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:38 AM
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79. It sounds like a splendid morning, all things considered.
Thank you for sharing it!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:07 AM
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80. *humpin' da leg*
:thumbsup: :yourock: :thumbsup: :yourock: :thumbsup: :yourock: :thumbsup: :yourock: :thumbsup: :yourock: :thumbsup: :yourock: :thumbsup:

You rock!

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:45 AM
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83. Well done!
I love that petition! But I won't sign it. :rofl:
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 05:46 AM
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86. I love the petition advice
and will be sure to use it the next time a ridiculous petition is offered to me (but I will take up the entire page with just two words).
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 06:55 AM
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88. I wonder what those nutjobs thought when the govt interfered with Terry Schiavo
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 07:07 AM
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89. hey p2BlibK- you so fucking ROCK!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:38 AM
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91. Belated K & R From Dinger (nt)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:53 AM
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92. Thanks Dinger!
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:05 PM
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95. Thank you for all your hard work,
effort and dealing with the lunatics to make
a difference!!

It is so discouraging to hear the knuckle draggers
shout down any reasonable discourse on the subject,
but it's people like you who restore my faith that
reason and sanity will prevail!

Thank you for sharing this with us.

:) :pals: :hi:
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StopTheNeoCons Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:56 PM
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96. Thank you for this post and your dedication, I sent it to all my contacts...n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 11:33 AM
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99. That is an honor. Thank you.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:56 PM
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97. That was great!
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 11:39 AM
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100. Please forward this "training manual" to your contacts!
Proud2Blib has given us invaluable tips on how to behave when among loonies at your local town hall meeting, and how to enjoy yourself while you're there.

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 11:54 AM
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101. Kicky
:kick:
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