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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:24 AM
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Response from UPS regarding my letter about them sponsoring Glenn Beck:
Subject
I will NOT ship using UPS as long you continue to sponsor Glenn Beck's program that is urging violence and racism.


Response (Flicka W.) 08/08/2009 03:31 AM
Dear Doug,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding our recent advertising on Fox. We value your input and take your comments very seriously.

UPS is very sensitive to the type of television programming with which we associate our messaging. While our advertising schedules are purchased months in advance, we work with our agencies to monitor programming for offensive, inappropriate or controversial content as our schedules run. We do not, however, always have complete visibility into which programs will be promoted in purchased shows.

Occasionally, our advertising ends up near polarizing content. If we find that this becomes a consistent pattern, we will re-evaluate our commitment to particular programs or networks.

Please contact us if you need any additional assistance.

Flicka W.
UPS Customer Service
Customer (Douglas J. De Clue) 08/07/2009 09:10 PM



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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:25 AM
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1. Good job!
Thank you!

Recommended.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:26 AM
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2. Do you have their e-mail handy?
I like that response. Sounds like if they're inundated with complaints, they might do something about it.

Thanks.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:49 AM
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26. UPS Was A Corporate Sponsor Of "The Contract On America," -writtten by former UPS supervisor-
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 10:53 AM by mikekohr
UPS Was A Corporate Sponsor Of "The Contract On America," They Have An Overseas Shell Corporation based in Bermuda named Overseas Partners Limited, (OPL) whose sole design is avoidance of United States income taxes. The IRS won the largest back taxes judgment in history against them in the late 1990's. The Bush administration dropped the case during the appeals process.

They are not good guys. I was in management there for 12 years. They are no fan of the Teamsters. They are not your friends and certainly not your ally. Decertify the Teamsters and watch how fast they skin you alive.

They are no fan of Democrats either. I was repeatedly informed by upper management that Democrats were a pale shade of the Communist Party. Their lobbying organization, UPSPAC, one of K Street's biggest, gives overwhelmingly to Republicans. When I left UPS in 1992 I turned in testimony and documents that detailed their tactics of forcing supervisors and management into donating to UPSPAC. The Federal Elections Commission filed a charge against UPS, in which, after a four year legal battle UPS agreed to pay a fine and to never engage in this behavior again (never get caught again).

I turned over to the EEOC internal company documents that resulted in a sealed judgment against UPS for age discrimination.

I turned over to attorney David Mark of Seattle, Washington, documents that proved UPS was aware of tactics that resulted in employees being forced to work through their unpaid lunch hour. The documents proved that UPS was aware of these facts and were actually tracking the number of affected employees on a national level, in spite of years of legal testimony to the contrary. The case resulted in a multi million dollar judgment aginst the corporate entity.

UPS, may be an authoritarian dinosaur in the business world, but they are extremely astute in avoiding bad press. In fact press clipping are gathered at a national and world wide level and studied with an intent as to how to influence positive press coverage. Example: one of the biggest contributors to National Public Radio is the Annie E. Casey Fund, This fund is named after the daughter of UPS's founder Jim Casey.

mike kohr
mkohr@dishmail.net
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:26 AM
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3. Thanks for sharing!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:27 AM
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4. Please pass along their email.
I'd like to send them my thoughts too. Great job! K&R
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:28 AM
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5. I do understand their dilemma
I've bought network radio advertising, and you often have no control over when those ads will run. To my chagrin, the ads have sometimes run during Limbaugh's program -- which makes me cringe.
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #5
32. you the little guy has no control over ad placement.
but i have a real hard time buying that excuse from UPS.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:29 AM
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6. same idiot reply for me too....
first the letter i sent them yesterday.....

hi....

UPS sends all of my Ebay and QVC sales and purchases....

Correction !!!!!!!!!!!

UPS NO LONGER WILL BE USED BY ME....

when i found out that you assholes are stupid enough to advertise on the Glen Beck show (FOX)

i said ENOUGH !!!....he's a racist pig and anyone who deals with them is too....

GOOD RIDDENS....and i have a loud mouth...i'll tell EVERYONE i know what racist pigs UPS is...

~Oceansaway

heres their assinine reply.....


Dear UPS Customer,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding our recent advertising on Fox. We value your input and take your comments very seriously.

UPS is very sensitive to the type of television programming with which we associate our messaging. While our advertising schedules are purchased months in advance, we work with our agencies to monitor programming for offensive, inappropriate or controversial content as our schedules run. We do not, however, always have complete visibility into which programs will be promoted in purchased shows.

Occasionally, our advertising ends up near polarizing content. If we find that this becomes a consistent pattern, we will re-evaluate our commitment to particular programs or networks.

Please contact us if you need any additional assistance.

Flicka W.
UPS Customer Service
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:34 AM
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9. Good riddens indeed!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:37 AM
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11. "good riddens"? (nt)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #6
14. Please tell me that wasn't a real message you sent.
Please.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:17 AM
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15. sorry, but your letter is counterproductive and rather foolish.
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TokenQueer Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:21 AM
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17. wow.
:facepalm:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:34 AM
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21. My gods, I'm sorry but you sound like a Freeper, spelling !!! and all.
That's really too bad.

Hekate

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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:50 AM
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27. I am surprised they even replied to that nasy childihsh rant.
I would simply have deleted it.

If the cursing and name calling wasn't bad enough the partial sentences and hard to read punctuation certainly was.

BTW I am no grammar snob and routinely misspell stuff but at least make an attempt for it to look like English.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #6
35. Flicka?
Wasn't Flicka a horse?
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:30 AM
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7. That's a step in the right direction. n/t
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:32 AM
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8. I remember when all that Sinclair/John Kerry stuff was happening,
getting a letter from General Mills telling me that "We support free speech." So this is, however small, an improvement.
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:37 AM
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10. I got the identical letter at 2am. Sounds like they ARE being hit hard. Ha!
They need to stop supporting this shit.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:39 AM
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12. Flicka? Really?
:)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #12
18. Imagine being named after a fictional horse?
:hi:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:33 AM
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19. Can't you just see the "introduction scenario"
" Hi, I'm James..and this is my friend, Flicka" :rofl:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:53 AM
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28. ...
:rofl:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #12
23. Better than being named Bambi, a name some parents also inflicted on their kids.
At least Flicka is Swedish for "little girl", kind of like being named Colleen. The book was really good, as I recall -- a wonderful coming of age story about a sensitive boy. The filly is given the name by the ranch hand, a Swede.

Hekate

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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #12
24. That was my first thought.
Maybe UPS' customer service is in Asia and this was the "American" name that this employee chose.

:)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. Like my Indian Dell-buddy, Juan
:rofl:
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:37 AM
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37. Or my contacts at a major US electronics distributor.
They even use a telephone # (area code) from NY....which transfers to India...I guess to make people think that they are really working out of NY.

I laugh alot at the "Americanized" names that are chosen by foreigners.

Coco, Dicky, Jacky, Sammy, Marilyn, Blossom and my favorite....Lavender.

And I mean no disrespect with my post. It's just the way that it is.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:45 AM
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13. Crap.
If they actually cared, they'd ban it immediately. Glenn Beck is not a difficult call to make.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:35 AM
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22. Totally agree. nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:20 AM
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16. Flicka W? Thanks for writing them though nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:33 AM
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20. that isnt good enough. you need to send another email and tell them that reply just isnt good
enough. that is the standard reply. you want more than jsut the standard reply because that statement allows them to appease you and continue on with putting an ad on beck show.

not good enough
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #20
29. You will never get more than a standard reply because...
the person scanning & sorting the inbox is not a person of authority.

However they do run reports on reported issues.
If enough people send an email and it makes the top 10 list for the month it will be acted upon by someone in authority.

This is an instance where numbers matter.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. yes i have wioth three or four companies. that is why i now it is possible and anything short
is worthless
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:56 AM
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31. You did better than I did with Geico
The little lizard never replied. Any progressive companies out there (and I hear "Progressive" isn't really)?
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:41 AM
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33. "If we find that a persistent pattern ..., " They're clearing not paying attention or not caring.
Total pass the buck b.s.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:57 PM
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34. Then I suppose we should all just quit using UPS - until they have a firmer grasp...
of their responsibility in this matter.

Maybe it's time to rethink those brown shirts, too. Suddenly, they're really bugging me.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:30 PM
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36. Well done.
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