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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:22 AM
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Can't anyone else see it (am I completly nuts????) Faux news
IMHO Faux news goal is to get one of its viewers to do something to Obama? Am I Nuts?????
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:25 AM
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1. Nope. It seems that way to a lot of people.
It's the old "will no one rid me of this troublesome priest" tactic. I personally think it's insane, considering that if something like that happened--if it was even attempted--someone could draw a very clear line between the suggestion and the person making the attempt. Of course, we can expect much of the corporate media to obfuscate it (why they'd cover for FAUX I don't know, but I'm thinking they would).
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:34 AM
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2. It's worked for them in the recent past.
So I suspect they (and let's not leave out the rest of the right wing nut jobs) are blowing ever so hard into their dog whistles. After all, they only need one lone wolf to answer the call.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:37 AM
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3. combine that with this:
"Secret Service Cuts Endangering Obama?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

i find it all extremely disturbing
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:18 AM
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4. I just had a light bulb go off.
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 05:18 AM by lapfog_1
I was wondering why Sarah came out with this piece of idiocy on her blog...

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."

And then on Rachael Maddow, an astroturf "Patients First" bus tour speaker says the following...

"If this new Obamacare program comes to fruition, when you reach 65 and every 5 years thereafter, your going to half to have a counseling session with someone, uh, some federal airhead, part of this process is called end of life counseling and part of end of life counseling can be an end of life order. Adolf Hitler issued 6 million end of life orders, he called his program The Final Solution. I kinda wonder what we are going to call ours"


This is the abortion / right to life issue applied to health care. They (Palin and the astroturfers) are making a moral equivalence argument about Obama Health Care Reform and Abortion. Even more so than "choice" for abortion, they are claiming that Obama means to KILL people (either because they are too old or because they are not "productive citizens").

THIS IS THE DOG WHISTLE FOR THE KILLERS IN THE ANTI-ABORTION FRINGE GROUPS. THEY ARE CALLING ON THESE PEOPLE, LIKE THE MURDERER OF DR. TILLER, TO KILL ... PRESIDENT OBAMA.

It's the same (or more so) as when O'reily called Dr. Tiller "Tiller the baby killer".

That's why, when I went to my town hall with my Democratic member of congress, ALMOST ALL the signs were about Obama, not about health care reform or the congress person. I saw a few with the Obama/Nazi signs, quite a number with the Joker/Obama signs, and a number of Obama / birther signs (he is an illegal alien and not my Commander-in-Chief).

No, we don't have to worry about the past middle aged angry white folks at these town hall meetings, no matter how much they yell and scream. The people we need to worry about are the disaffected, unemployed Timothy McVeigh types, late 20's to 30s and even 40s, white, male, usually unmarried, loners. These are the ones that are hearing this crap on their TeeVee and deciding that they need to "do something about it". That they will be "heroes" for saving the country from the horrors of the Federal Death Panel that the illegal President and the "liburls in congress" were going to inflict on the helpless and the elderly in their country. They will convince themselves that they have a "legal right" to defend the nation from such godless commies/socialists/nazis (pick one or more).

And the republican pieces of chickenshit KNOW that not only is this possible, but it's likely. That's why the lies are SO distorted, and distorted in a specific way. They want someone to make the attempt. I'm convinced of it.

Crap. I wish I was wrong on this. But I'm not. It's real and it's intentional.

Tell me I'm wrong. Convince me that this is all "politics" and the only thing they want stopped is Health Care Reform.
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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:41 AM
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5. GREAT comment ... and, sorry, but you are right ... nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:06 AM
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6. How can anyone be pro-life, pro-war and anti-health care?
They contradict themselves at every turn.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:32 AM
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10. Don't forget "pro capital punishment"...
and, yeah, I can believe it.

They only like life in the womb. Once born, they couldn't give a crap about you.

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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:35 AM
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12. apparently it's not that hard. there seem to be a lot of folks who have no trouble
believing all those things at the same time.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:34 AM
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11. OMG!! you are right. all this nai hitler stuff.... what did the nazis do...
they rounded up all the jews and the old ones went before some people who sent them to their deaths!! This is the image these idiots are putting in the heads of their listeners!! People who were around at the time to know what was happening... AND the younger people who heard about it in school perhaps and think someone is going to euthanie grandma. This really scares me now!! Desperate and scared people do desperate and stupid things.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:54 AM
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13. my God, if they could only hear themselves "some federal airhead"
wtf? Do they think gov't workers are some kind of alien creatures brought here to fuck up their lives?

I also love how they have such a problem with end of life care (which from what I understand is not even in the health care bill) yet see nothing wrong with the gov't. AND individuals inserting themselves into a woman's reproductive health decisions.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:00 AM
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15. Except that it's the CEO's making Millions currenty doing that
Obama is trying to help protect us from those
bloodsucking CEOs. The right has lied to it's people
in order to protect the profits of LEECHES
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:12 AM
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7. Thank you, Captain Obvious. n/t
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:21 AM
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8. you are right
and Murdoch needed to be deported for inciting violence. You cannot, and your fucking entire criminal media enterprise, cannot legally incite your intellectually deficient and psychopathic viewers to do the unthinkable..

Of course CBS also pretends that groups like freidomworks are legitimate. But Murdoch goes there.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:30 AM
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9. they are doing two thiings at once it seems....
they are inciting their audience to attend these meetings armed and trying to provoke something... and then they tell them not to use violence. that way they are 'covered' because they told their listeners/viewers not to get violent... but then told them to go armed.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:55 AM
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14. You are not the first to raise this concern
:(
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:17 AM
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16. remember, in the Bush era ...
writing a letter to the editor critical to the Dictator was not only equated with, but actually was aiding, terrorists coming into America and bombing schools?

But hey, calling Obama a Nazi, a non-citizen, a Muslin, a Socialist, and saying he's going to take your guns? That's just the first amendment in action, nobody could have foreseen some nutjob taking that as an order to kill Obama ...
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:51 AM
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17. I find it ironic that they are using Hitler
Hitler outlawed abortion; Hitler was against homosexuals, slavs, gypsies; Hitler loved him some American corporations-I believe he had a picture of Henry Ford in his office and these corporations loved him (read Trading with the Enemy). So I'd say their god * could identify more with Hitler than Obama.

I heard one of the teabaggers interviewed on TV lamenting about the destruction of the Constitution and I thought "where were you for over eight fekkin years when * was using it as TP? It appears these lemmings didn't care if * did away with habeas corpus or posse comitatus , did illegal wiretapping, or lied us into a major FUBAR--naw, Obama's been in less than a year and it's all Obama's fault. Nothing like spending approximately ten billion a month for over six years on wars so corporations can make a bundle on our dime and our lives. But hey, the economy and everything else is all Obama's fault. I'm waiting for the truly ignorant to blame him for 9/11, because * is the uncharismatic GOD!!!!! I can't remember is * supposed to be Magog? What was his S&B name?
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:53 AM
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18. kick
nt
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