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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:23 PM
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Why The Public Option SUCKS!!
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:24 PM
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1. k&r n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:25 PM
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2. Excellent!
K&R
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:25 PM
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3. Quite eloquent, indeed.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:25 PM
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4. Great, but too much reading to get the point across to the average American.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:01 PM
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17. Not really. I skipped past everything until I got to (i)bookie.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:30 PM
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5. Yep that sums up the logic of the situation even for the literacy challenged.
This should go viral.

Thanks for the thread, lame.:thumbsup:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:36 PM
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6. Corrupt Capitalism, indeed. I'm going with socialism . . . MEDICARE FOR ALL -- !!!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:46 PM
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7. Love it!
:D
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:01 PM
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8. K&R
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:04 PM
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9. Makes you wonder why we give insurance company execs a seat
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 06:04 PM by slipslidingaway
at the table and exclude single payer advocates.

:(

American Values” — A Smoke Screen in the Debate on Health Care Reform

Allan S. Brett, M.D.

http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=1245

"Amid all the rhetoric about health care reform, one claim has emerged as a trump card designed to preserve the current patchwork of private and public insurance and to stop discussion of a government-sponsored single-payer system in its tracks: the claim that single-payer health care — a Canadian-style Medicare-for-all system — is antithetical to “American values.” The idea that American values dictate a particular approach to health care reform is often stated explicitly, and it is implicit in the generalization that “Americans want” a particular system. The underlying premise is that an identifiable set of American values point incontrovertibly to a health care system anchored by the private insurance industry. Remarkably, this premise has received very little scrutiny.

...Suppose that “freedom to choose” is indeed the paramount American value relevant to health care. For many people, it would surely imply choice of physician, hospital, or clinic. For such choice, a single-payer system beats the competition hands down. Incremental reforms preserving the private insurance industry and employer-based insurance would probably perpetuate the restricted choice of health care providers that many Americans already encounter: private plans typically limit access to certain physicians or hospitals, and physicians often refuse to accept certain plans. In contrast, single-payer proposals eliminate those restrictions.

Another possible meaning of “choice” is the freedom to choose from an array of private insurance companies. Here it is important to acknowledge that insurance is only a means for collecting and disbursing health care funds — not an end in itself. The key question is therefore whether private insurance is superior to single-payer insurance in achieving the desired end of efficient, cost-effective health care. Here, too, the single-payer system would probably prevail. Because administrative costs are consistently lower in single-payer systems than in private-based systems, more of the health care budget goes directly to patient care (and less to administration) in single-payer systems. Thus, Americans have been misled by the rhetoric about choice. In contrast with the single-payer option, a system with multiple private insurers would continue to restrict one dimension of choice (selection of physicians) and perpetuate a choice most people would consider irrational (wasteful spending on administrative overhead).

...Policymakers debating health care reform should stop hiding behind the smoke screen of “American values.” Discussions dominated by references to uniquely American individualism, uniquely American solutions, or narrowly defined conceptions of choice tell us more about the political and economic interests of the discussants than about the interests of the Americans they claim to represent. In an increasingly diverse country that has a widening gap between rich and poor, a more promising approach is to start with the questions that matter to everyone: Will the system care for us when we’re sick and help prevent illness when we’re well? Will we have access to medical care throughout our lives without risking financial ruin? Will we be able to navigate the system easily, without jumping through unnecessary hoops or encountering excessive red tape? Will health care spending be managed wisely? Health care reformers owe Americans a system that best addresses these questions — not one that merely pays lip service to ill-defined “American values.”

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:56 PM
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10. CREW V. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (WHITE HOUSE VISITOR LOGS - HEALTH CARE EXECS)
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:19 PM
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11. Kick
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:37 PM
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12. Can this be put on the front page?
So right on the money!!!

:kick: & R!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:44 PM
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13. well played
:patriot:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:20 AM
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14. .
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:32 AM
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15. Nationalize Health Care, Banking, Energy.
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:37 AM
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16. Basic health - education - housing - food
I've always said -- in any "civilized" society, capitalist, socialist, whatever -- certain things should be guaranteed at no individual cost to citizens when needed: basic education (including college), housing, food, and healthcare. You've expanded on this list, but it's the same principle.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:01 PM
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18. Words of wisdom!
:toast:
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