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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:35 PM
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Are you guys noticing that the media, at least MSNBC, is not mentioning the shooters Obama comments?
They are not talking about what he said about President Obama and his comments about interracial relationships.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:37 PM
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1. Have not heard of this. Do you have a link or a quote, please?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:38 PM
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2. The first entry
November 5, 2008:
Planned to do this in the summer but figure to stick around to see the election outcome. This particular one got so much attention and I was just curious. Not like I give a flying fcuk who won, since this exit plan was already planned. Good luck to Obama! He will be successful. The liberal media LOVES him. Amerika has chosen The Black Man. Good! In light of this I got ideas outside of Obama's plans for the economy and such. Here it is: Every black man should get a young white girl hoe to hone up on. Kinda a reverse indentured servitude thing. Long ago, many a older white male landowner had a young Negro wench girl for his desires. Bout' time tables are turned on that shit. Besides, dem young white hoez dig da bruthrs! LOL. More so than they dig the white dudes! Every daddy know when he sends his little girl to college, she be bangin a bruthr real good. I saw it. "Not my little girl", daddy says! (Yeah right!!) Black dudes have thier choice of best white hoez. You do the math, there are enough young white so all the brothers can each have one for 3 or 6 months or so.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:43 PM
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7. And he wondered why no one liked him. I don't. nt
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:05 AM
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45. I can't think of the word to describe this filthy a-hole
He is ass backwards tho, he should have committed suicide first.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:39 PM
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3. In a way, I'm glad. Just more fuel to the hateful fire. The fundies will
be blaming Obama for those shootings. Best left alone, I think, because this country is getting really crazed.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:39 PM
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4. I'm of two minds on this.
I think it should be brought up, but at the same time I can see why they would be worried about inciting copy cats that agree with that message.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:40 PM
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5. Hates Obama, so he shoots a bunch of women? nt
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:42 PM
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6. No but it speaks to some resentment based on race as well. . .
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 02:46 PM by wndycty
If we are going to be discussing this guy, we need to be discussing his comments about Obama and interracial dating.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:45 PM
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9. He turned the lights out
before he started shooting.

He just wanted to shoot women - he didn't care what color they were.

Give it up. There's no racial component to what this horny lunatic did. He just hated that women didn't like him..................................
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:47 PM
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11. No but if you are going to develop a profile of his type. . .
. . .his racism, which indicates a capacity for bigotry (based on race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.) which is important when it comes to learning from this.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:22 PM
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14. You're digging for scraps -
Your phrase, "... bigotry (based on race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.)" is so over-reaching as to be meaningless.

The guy hadn't been laid in almost two decades. He was an utter flameout with women. He was tired of being lonely and resentful of just about everyone, including Obama, who probably seemed like the man who had it all compared to the shooter, regardless of race.

Perhaps a profiler would be more interested in finding out why that part of his life was such an utter failure instead of trying to stick labels like "bigotry" on him, a meaningless exercise if ever there was one.

Some people are just socially maladjusted, and the reason may be as simple as they were born with bad wiring.

Not everything is political, or bigotry, or whatever label you're looking to attach.

It's not simple, and your trying to make it so is just, well, simple...................................................
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:19 PM
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23. That's exactly right and we call that euphemistically, "social conservatism"
which means you get to hate those people, even harm them AND feel virtuously validated by the Republican Party.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:43 PM
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30. Ah, mah leetle anklebiter scampers up
and drools for attention..............
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:00 PM
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40. I wasn't responding to you, Miz Scarlett.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:12 PM
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42. He hated white women for liking black men.
So, YEAH, there IS a "racial component."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:10 PM
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41. He couldn't figure out that racist sexist pigs are a turn off?
I guess he wanted to be loved for himself.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:48 PM
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12. He can't understand his own inability to have a relationship ...
... why are women attracted to BLACK MEN rather than a (sic) normal, nice guy like him (sic) ??

So he's probably been dumped a few times, maybe once even for someone of another race, and instead of looking
at his own personality flaws, he decides that all women are evil and black men purposely seek out white women
leaving none for him (and other losers like him).
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:43 PM
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8. He hadn't been laid in 19 years -
I think his political sensibilities were "WAY down there on his list of what was wrong in his world.

NINETEEN YEARS??????
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:26 PM
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16. Now that's a long time
He sure had issues
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:37 PM
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20. And tension -
lots and lots of tension...................
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:13 PM
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22. I said the same thing earlier this morning
intense, and loaded with issues, but (like you) based on what I read, I'm in no position to say RW or racist nutter.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:21 PM
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25. Except it can be plainly read in what he wrote. n/t
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 04:30 PM by EFerrari
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:45 PM
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31. His plight will resonate with all the people
who haven't been laid in two decades, and they'll, of course, see all kinds of political and racial and gender-based overtones to it.

They're also very, very tense.....................
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:26 PM
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17. End Senseless Shootings - Legalize Prostitution........nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:32 PM
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29. Do you honestly think his hiring a prostitute would have stopped this?
It's really sickening how many people here seem to think there is some kind of Healing Power of the Vagina or something.

Apologies if you were being sarcastic. It's said seriously so often, I couldn't tell.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:15 PM
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43. "The Healing Power of the Vagina."
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 07:16 PM by aquart
When you read fairy tales and they talked of a magic cauldron...what did you think they meant?
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:10 AM
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47. Prostitution can only fulfil sexual desire, not the desire to love and be loved.
I think there's a big difference.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:45 PM
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10. Whacked is whacked. He was whacked.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:20 PM
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13. When even "liberals" are denying the guy was a racist
I'm not suprised the M$M has ignored that angle
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:24 PM
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15. There is no "angle" -
he was nuts, badly wired, socially retarded, lost. Imagine how cranky YOU would be if you hadn't had sex with another person in nineteen years, and you hadn't taken a vow of celibacy.

Not everything is political. That kind of obsessive branding is so tiresome and counter-productive......................
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:26 PM
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18. I bet there are a ton of "40 year old Virgins" who don't resort to shooting up a gym
:kick:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:36 PM
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19. Forty-eight -
get your numbers correct.

And I'm sure there are as you state, but this one wasn't a virgin - gee, you're bad with facts - and he did shoot up a women's exercise class.

It wasn't political................
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:25 PM
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27. Exactly... all these making a big deal out of his lack of a sex life
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 04:31 PM by redqueen
only validate using that kind of idiocy as an excuse for anything.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:43 PM
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21. so his obssessing about black men banging white girls is just "cranky"?
Ive heard it all.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:22 PM
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26. Really.
:eyes:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:29 PM
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28. It's shocking how easily people write off racism isn't it?
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 04:29 PM by redqueen
But, well... there are trends, so... it's not really all that shocking after all, really.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:46 PM
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32. He was obsessed with anybody banging anybody -
why do you think he just chose women to shoot at, and turned out the lights before he opened fire?

Jesus, these Chicken Littles who can't grasp reality, when reality is bad enough.........................
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:20 PM
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24. No kidding. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:48 PM
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34. Well duh. What did *you* think "post-racial society" meant? Silly wabbit.
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 05:49 PM by BlooInBloo
:rofl:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:47 PM
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33. They're definitely downplaying the racist overtones
Because they know that that will take a life of its own in the MSM discourse.

Not facing it is an insidious form of cowardice.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:49 PM
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35. So, a guy walks into a room, shoots several black people, we're allowed to say it's sexist too?
The guy hates everybody, but it was a roomful of women he shot.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:49 PM
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36. Depends what his journal says. Durr.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:55 PM
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38. Yes, he IS a racist. But yesterday he actually acted on his hatred for women. nt
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:02 PM
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39. He was both racist and misgynistic
He demonstrated his racism in his blog, but not mentioning that misrepresents his hatred for minorities by dismissing it.

His targeting of women as well as his words demonstrated his hatred for them.

The full measure of his hatred should be examined without the laziness of generalizing it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:51 PM
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37. Teasing out this guy would take a team of shrinks.
He sounds like an equal op bigot to me.

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:17 PM
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44. They aren't mentioning it because it had NO bearing on his reasoning.
He didn't shoot those women because he didn't like Obama.

He didn't shoot those women because he hated blacks.

He didn't shoot those women because he hated fundamentalists.

He didn't shoot those women because he hated his brother.

He shot those women because he hated women.

All the rest is immaterial, and I don't see why people keep thinking it has any bearing.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:06 AM
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46. From what I've gotten of this guy he just hated everyone equally.
He was an equal-opportunity shithead.
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