SCREW THIS!! LOCK ALL THEIR ASSES UP!!!

[CatWoman]

:nuke:

you want someone to yell at? yell at the wall in your cell!!

you want to disrupt meetings? go at it with your cell mate!!

the hell with these fucking idiots.

LOCK ALL THEIR ASSES UP!!

[hlthe2b]

1. Here... Here...!

:toast:

[Horse with no Name]

2. I've taught my granddaughter better than these clowns act

the news was just on and she (6 years old) put her fingers in her ears and asked why they were yelling so loudly??
Even a 6-year old recognizes rudeness.
That's pretty pathetic.

[Atticus]

3. Prime USDA inspected Rant! Hell yeah! nt

[jwirr]

4. I also hate what they are doing but what laws can we lock them up

for. Maybe some of the laws that were used by Mayor Daley in Chicago in 1968? What laws are they breaking other than the laws of decency? I think that is our problem.

[katanalori]

8. disturbing the peace?

that's the only thing I can come up with.

[Solomon]

51. Too bad they weren't in their own houses,

then we could have arrested them. But damn, they were in a public place so you can't get 'em for disturbing the peace.

[rucky]

10. They're preventing our right to peaceful assembly.

If it can be proven that their mission is to stifle free speech.

[HughMoran]

14. How does one prevent fascism then?

The corporations are paying these people to be there - isn't this the beginning of fascism?

[jwirr]

26. I understand that and I also would like some answers about how to

deal with them. We are not going to get the message out if this keeps up and I am willing to bet that they are scaring our congress reps. If we do not get out there to those meetings we are going to lose the bill. It is time for all good citizens to stand up and be heard. Outshout them if nothing else.

As to defeating fascism - well it took a war the last time and we were on the good side. How we defeat it from within I do not know.

[H2O Man]

28. Arresting them on even

relatively minor charges will put a stop to their nonsense. It will require them to deal with the judicial system, including attending court, and possibly hiring an attorney, copping a plea, and having a record. For those being bused by the rabid republican machine, the added espenses will become "on their dime."

[Hippo_Tron]

48. No, the beginning of fascism is throwing out the bill of rights because we're afraid

[H2O Man]

52. However,

arresting them for breaking the law in no way can be considered "throwing out the bill of rights."

[Hippo_Tron]

56. True, but locking them up is different than arresting them

Yes when you get arrested you get sent to jail for a period of time. Locking them up implies that you want them imprisoned.

[HughMoran]

61. I wasn't suggesting that, I was wondering how we prevent the corporations paid shills from destroyin

g democracy? Do you have any ideas?

[NoUsername]

72. Well, not voting for them would be a start.

What this country really needs is a second party.

[kirby]

24. Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, etc...

Believe me, if the cops want to arrest them, they would.

[csziggy]

32. Dr. Gates was arrested for being tumultuous in public and these guys are beyond that

The single payer advocates who tried to get a seat at the table were arrested for speaking up in public.

These actions by the insurance financed advocates are inciting to civil disobedience as well as being 'tumultuous' - sounds like a reasonable charge to me.

[hootinholler]

43. Inciting a riot.

It's on the Federal books, 3 or more people acting together putting others in fear for their property or health.

-Hoot

[chrisa]

50. If you have to dig for a law to lock them up with,

They shouldn't be locked up. You wouldn't like it if the shoe was on the other foot.

[arcadian]

53. This is the correct answer.

Ask them to debate civilly, if they can't tell them to shut the fuck up.

[H2O Man]

54. No need to "dig."

Anyone familiar with the law knows what charges can be made.

[Hansel]

58. You set up rules

You fore warn everyone that you will protect the safety of everyone in attendance. No shouting over others so they cannot be heard. No screaming at others when they ask a question. No interrupting others when they are speaking. Raise your hand if you have a question. Sit in your chair unless you are asking a question.

Then you warn them that if they violate these rules that they will be asked to stop and if they don't comply they will be asked to leave. If they refuse, you ask the police officers you have hired to protect the other citizens from thugs to remove the disruptor. If they resist the police officers efforts to escort them out, well, ask Prof. Gates.

These congressman have the responsibility to protect the safety of the people attending their events. They also have the responsibility to protect the rights of free speech for all of the people attending these town hall meetings.

[aikoaiko]

5. No need to go off on Code Pink that way...

;-)

[Crabby Appleton]

7. Yeah, they mean well... nt

[vadawg]

70. i honestly dont understand why people cant see that they attack these methods

when they disagree with the message but if they agree then its okay, the very same people are all for someone shoutign out for immigrant rights, gay rights add whatever rights youwant, but if its something they disagree with then its lock them up...

[Cybertronian]

6. Yup.

i agree... this shitheads are just blatantly resorting to mob antics which should be unacceptable. they are holding the business of government and are abusing elected officials. it is time that they should be locked up, i agree. the teabaggers, on the other hand, i think when they go to Washington DC, i would be for firing water cannons and rubber bullets on them. you will see that once a helicopter hovers close to these dumbfucks, they would all scamper away like rats and roaches.

[stevedeshazer]

9. I love it when you talk like that.

:)

:rofl:

[CatWoman]

11. *smooches*

:hi:

[BlooInBloo]

12. (shrug) I've been led to understand that I should have no problem with people being arrested...

for being "tumultuous". So I have no problem using this as practice, until I'm fully comfortable with the notion.

[Bluerthanblue]

20. WORD!!

you said it perfectly!

:hi:

[HughMoran]

13. I imagined buying a machine gun

I dunno why, I just did :evilgrin:

[Champion Jack]

17. Nah, makes too much noise

Just accidentally jab 'em with a syringe of pure L25.

[HughMoran]

21. Can you load those up for rapid fire?

:evilgrin:

[H2O Man]

15. Disorderly conduct.

Arrest them, and they will stop their foolishness.

[bbinacan]

16. On what charge? n/t

[CatWoman]

18. look up

[bbinacan]

23. I'm looking up and

I just see my ceiling. :evilgrin:

[Ilsa]

19. I think if I got the chance, I'd go stand next to one of them and fart

a really bad one. I'd eat bacon or something unhealthy and cut one loose for them, just to stink them out.

[armyowalgreens]

22. I don't know what to do. But locking them up is not the answer.

[Odin2005]

25. We shouldn't be falling to their level.

[H2O Man]

27. Enforcing the law

should never be confused with "falling to their level." Being intimidated and not enforcing the law should be recognized as cowardice.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

29. Do you feel the same when the cops break up any protests?

[H2O Man]

30. If it involves

breaking the law, I certainly do. In fact, Rev. King often said that if you break the law -- even in a public protest -- you should expect to be arrested and willingly accept the consequences.

Of course, this isn't what you are looking for with your question, is it?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

33. Nice to find people above the hypocrisy.

[CatWoman]

39. lol

you know i love you, right?

:hi:

[H2O Man]

41. 'Spect I do.

The feeling is likewise.

[CatWoman]

44. !!

:loveya:

[DeeDeeNY]

34. It's really not analogous with protests by real citizens speaking out

These phony disruptions are being organized by right-wing groups with an agenda to thwart anything Democrats want to advance.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

38. The World Bank protests were quite well organized.

[hfojvt]

31. Do you support that for Code Pink as well?

Democracy is messy, but I also think this technique will backfire. It will turn off a large portion of sensible moderates who will reject that kind of fanaticism.

[H2O Man]

40. When people break the law

as part of their public protests, they should expect to be arrested. In fact, they should welcome it.

I think that your question shows either a lack of familiarity with Code Pink, or a lack of appreciation for their bravery in participating in protests where they know they will face legal consequences.

They are taking part in the long history of protests against war and violence, and willingly accepting the legal charges. This is the same as the Berrigan Brothers, and more recently, the St. Patrick's Four. There is a strength found in challenging the system, and using the courts as a way to voice conscience.

Comparing the disruptors in the health care meetings to these folks is like confusing shit and sugar.

[moondust]

42. Does Code Pink try to prevent free speech and public discussion?

Do they try to shut things down? Inhibit and intimidate?

I think not. As far as I know they simply try to make themselves heard at times when somebody is listening.

And what happens to Code Pink when they speak out at congressional hearings? They are eventually escorted from the room. As should be these corporate stooges who are interfering with democratic proceedings.

Code Pink look like angels compared to these organized political terrorists. Let's not confuse the free expression of dissent with attempts to silence the free speech and public discussion of others.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

57. Yes they do...this tactic is not the sole province of the right

[moondust]

59. Got some examples?

[whistler162]

35. I must assume your are complaining about your cats!

[ManiacJoe]

37. That would at least supply the missing context for the OP.

:shrug:

[CatWoman]

47. i'm talking about these idiots disrupting democratic town hall meetings

[CatWoman]

45. LOLOLOLOL!!!

sometimes....

:)

[aquart]

36. Can we paste KICK ME signs on their backs? And then do it?

[BigBearJohn]

46. This is the first time I agree with you 100%

[CatWoman]

55. hmm....

[bdamomma]

49. I would throw them out, they are rude SOB's

they will do anything and everything to stop health care, what SOB's, the repigs are afraid it will work, and again, they show their support to the insurance companies, and not to the American people.

[BOG PERSON]

60. Whatever happened to freedom of speech.

Not that I care one way or another, but people here certainly seem to (judging by the Chavez threads) so the least they can do is try to be consistent, and not apply double standards.

[CatWoman]

62. like this "freedom"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6226259

[BOG PERSON]

65. Yikes. I hadn't heard about that.

That's crossing the line, obviously.

[libodem]

63. I'm with you Catwoman

This utter bullshit gives me some insight into the reason Bush hand picked his crowds for townhall meetings. This is the type of behavior they expected from us. They were such control freaks that they created 'Free speech Zones' well away from the camera of the news reporters. It gave a false sense that everyone in America loved the Iraq war and that Bush commanded some kind of respect. God, what a punk that waste of skin turned out to be.

[librechik]

64. see--there is a reason for free speech zones

except Democrats are not the reason.

[Buns_of_Fire]

66. Do we get to pummel them vigorously about the head and shoulders before they're hauled away?

Please?

[spanone]

67. this will become the new standard- 'reality news programming'.

unscripted 'framed' news.....get the bodies in the same place and lightening may strike...

democracy's worst nightmare.

idiocracy

lock 'em

[maxpower]

68. Is this why Bush

Chose his audiences? And his goons forcibly remove anyone who shouted at the Little Lord Pissypants.

[SidneyCarton]

69. You're angry, you should be.

But silencing the oppo through force does not breed democracy, it breeds tyranny. We did not peacefully depose a tyrant last november, only to put on our own jackboots and impose our own brand of tyranny. President Obama doesn't want that, I don't want that, and I believe that you really don't want that either. You are likely tired, outraged and angry. Let it out my friend, the good fight must go on, and we all know you are committed.

[Cha]

71. Here's a successful way the Meets were dealth with and it did involve the police

being there.

<snip>>

"Tea Baggers FAIL to disrupt Health Care meeting, lessons shared."

by Don Briggs

Share this on Twitter - Tea Baggers FAIL to disrupt Health Care meeting, lessons shared. Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 10:50:13 PM PDT

The Democratic Alliance of Northwest Indiana (DANI ) hosted a meeting with Rep. Pete Visclosky (D, IN-01), on Monday, Aug. 3, 6:30 PM. We invited the public and their written questions. It seems good to share with the Daily Kos readership some lessons we learned.

Bottom line:
• We had an orderly and productive meeting.
• No one stood up, shouted out and sat down.
• At no point was our Congressman or audience rattled.
• DANI accomplished its objective. We provided the public an opportunity to question our Congressman about Health Care and Clean Energy.
• Tea Baggers came out in force, but they failed to disrupt the meeting.
• Local reporters attended.

"Lessons learned follow below the fold."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/4/13836/02418

Hissyspit's thread on GD with Gems of Action..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6217096

More ideas from Rude Pundit..crossposted from GD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6216618

[ColesCountyDem]

73. I will defend until death their right to make jackasses out of themselves!

At times, the First Amendment sucks, doesn't it?