Here's the kicker in this letter from a CPC staffer:
"i don't think progressive are willing to vote against an imperfect bill if said bill reduces the number of uninsured. additionally, politically speaking we have limited leverage, because we know if the president loses this one, we lose and any hope of meaningful progressive legislation will be thwarted for the rest of this term."
DEAR PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS: YOU SHOULD BE LOYAL TO THE **PEOPLE** FIRST, NOT THE PRESIDENT.
Read more about this stupid staffer's letter of capitulation above. The CPC can pound their chests all they want....but they haven't been able to deliver on anything yet because of this stupid concept of "loyalty" (see the war supplemental bills).
5. Who wins when a crappy healthcare plan with no public option passes?
The insurance companies.
And that's exactly what will happen. Any healthcare plan without a public option WILL fail anyway....and there will be no more discussion of health care reform because we will have "tried" to "reform" health care and failed.
7. Though I agree with what you said about the public option, that's really not my point.
Are you willing to trade-in everything else on the progressive agenda for health care, essentially making yourself a single-issue voter? If that's your choice, that's fine, but not every progressive is willing to do that. Thus, for an organization, it would be suicidal to do that.
21. Health care reform encompasses more than just health care.
Not only would it affect health care, it would affect jobs and the economy, as well. Health insurance is one of the main factors for our poor economy, draining the funds from businesses and bankrupting individuals. Supporting health care reform is far from being a 'single issue voter'.
6. That's probably why Pelosi breaks into laughter talking about them.
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 03:40 PM by masuki bance
"...Despite threats from almost 60 progressive House Democrats -- who outnumber the Blue Dogs -- Pelosi defended the compromise, saying it was similar to one backed by Sen. Edward M. Kennedy. Pelosi predicted that the liberal wing would fall in line because the legislation is so important to them.
"Are you asking me, 'Are the progressives going to take down universal, quality, affordable health care for all Americans?' I don't think so," Pelosi told reporters Friday, breaking into laughter at the question.
California Rep. Lynn Woolsey, who co-chairs the caucus, told The Hill newspaper she was outraged at the thought of Pelosi laughing at the progressives..."
This legislation is roughly the "lowest common denominator" kinda stuff. If it passes, we get about the absolute minimum a progressive could think of. One has to believe it creates the "framework" for future improvements, and that the "public option" will become like medicare, something that can't be touched. One can even imagine it becoming so competetive that small business loves it and the GOP can't get rid of it anymore than SS, medicare, or cash for clunkers. My concern is that it will do something quite the opposite. It will leave the impression that "it's all taken care of" and we'll move on, leaving this to the healthcare industry to slowly erode until everyone starts claiming it's this huge failure because they sucked the life out of any meaningful change.
The administration knows they have progressives over a barrel, and I suspect they love it.
17. So we are going to pass a bill (HR3200) written by the Republicans.
But since it is such a horrible bill (mandates and small business penalty), the Republicans will blame it on us. And rightfully so. It won't matter that they wrote the fucking thing, if we are the ones who vote for it while they vote against the bill they wrote.
I see the state of the Republic party today. I see them campaign and think, "boy are those guys stupid."
Then I see our party passing a law the Republics wrote to be hated and wonder, "you mean we're even stupider than they are?"
37. Blue Dogs and Republicans outnumber Democrats.
The Republican message on this is that the Democrats want to put government between you and your doctor. Yet the rules and limits being put on doctors are being inserted to "cut costs" and thereby placate the Blue Dogs and their Republican allies.
If there were no Republicans in Congress, or if half the Blue Dogs were Liberal Democrats, then HR3200 would put the doctors in charge of healthcare. And it'd be single-payer, for that matter.
All the negative stuff in HR3200, all the stuff the Republicans are going to use to beat up the Democrats in 2010, was written by the fucking Republicans and their Blue Dog bitches! Health care reform as written is going to KILL us in 2010. Republicans voting against the bill must be secretly praying for its passage so they can hammer us with it.
From a purely political standpoint, we would be much better off letting the Republicans and Blue Dogs kill real healthcare reform. Then we could use THAT to hammer THEM.
I'm going to start planning my move to Cuba when they lift the ban on travel - maybe I can become a resident there and get some decent health care. I guess I should start learning to speak spanish now...
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 06:51 PM by lumberjack_jeff
These guys didn't become elected officials by being idiots.
Voting against a reform bill which; a) creates a public plan b) creates a health insurance exchange c) establishes a system of affordability credits which makes coverage affordable d) eliminates preexisting condition exclusions and recission.
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