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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:54 AM
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Remember the last time Republicans sent Angry Mobs to Disrupt Something?
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 09:56 AM by berni_mccoy
I do. And it did so much damage to America that we are still recovering and Obama is left to pick up the pieces. Let's not let them use the same tactics to shut down discussion of Healthcare Reform in town hall meetings across the nation. They are trying to stop that the same way they stopped the recount.



This angry mob, which successfully stopped the recount in Miami-Dade County during the 2000 election standoff, was portrayed by the media as an uprising by Florida voters.

Here are the identities of the protesters:

1. Tom Pyle, policy analyst, office of House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Tex.).
2. Garry Malphrus, majority chief counsel and staff director, House Judiciary subcommittee on criminal justice.
3. Rory Cooper, political division staff member at the National Republican Congressional Committee.
4. Kevin Smith, former House Republican conference analyst and more recently of Voter.com.
5. Steven Brophy, former aide to Sen. Fred D. Thompson (R-Tenn.), now working at the consulting firm KPMG.
6. Matt Schlapp, former chief of staff for Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), now on the Bush campaign staff in Austin.
7. Roger Morse, aide to Rep. Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).
8. Duane Gibson, aide to Chairman Don Young (R-Alaska) of the House Resources Committee.
9. Chuck Royal, legislative assistant to Rep. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).
10. Layna McConkey, former legislative assistant to former Rep. Jim Ross Lightfoot (R-Iowa) now at Steelman Health Strategies.


(from: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blfloridagopmob... )
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:54 AM
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1. I remember it all too well. n/t
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:56 AM
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2. Some troll unrecced this thread.
I nullified the unrec. You are correct that this is the ssame sort of Hollywood-style production, false in every way. The party of NO wants to kill the discussion because if the discussion takes place the corporations lose.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:50 AM
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24. WTF? I also added my rec to nullify that crap.
This thread raises a REALLY valid point as the 2000 election "protests" are easily the best parallel to what is happening now -- maybe even more so than the Tea Parties -- Sponsored by Fox News.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 03:25 PM
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52. How can you see when someone 'unrecommends" ?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #52
53. Two ways
1. Early on the post will have a <0 count.
2. The rec count will go down (at one point it was at 58 and then dropped to 51)
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #53
69. I think if we're gonna have Unrecs (and I'm not convinced of that),
we also should have a separate Unrec count, and maybe a "spread" count that's sorta like a statistical variance and that shows which threads are generating the most heated disagreement.
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #69
80. I agree with Jackpine...
Unrecs must be seperate and NOT take away from the recs
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:56 PM
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85. Maybe we need a "Most Controversial" page to go with the "Greatest."
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:58 AM
Response to Reply #69
101. There is way too much handwringing and obsession here about UnRecs,
especially withing the first few minutes of an OP. There are trolls here at DU? So what. This thread currently has over 300 Recs, so why give trolls even more attention by pointing out their UnRecs? Rec the threads you think are deserving and others will do the same and things will take care of themselves. An OP is good on its own merits regardless of how many Recs it gets and each response will raise it in whatever forum it appears. Ultimately deserving threads get their Recs.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #101
119. This is the main reason I opposed the Unrec thing in the first place.
It is a huge distraction. Tell me ONE thing that the Unrec function does to enhance our discourse on DU.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:33 PM
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120. It gives people who do not agree a voice.
Imagine "At the Movies" with Siskel and Ebert where they are only allowed to give a thumbs up. Why don't we spend time discoursing on the issues rather than on UnRec?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:23 AM
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105. I hate the unrec feature but I have mellowed some, because I notice
that trolls really can't stop us, slow us down for a minute or two, but not stop us. I'm about to make rec 321.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #105
108. Rec #330!!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:56 AM
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3. Staging these phony protests is GOP to the core.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #3
71. Patriotism is a stagged event for them.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #71
118. Freedom Isn't Free!
Good PR firms cost a bundle!
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:57 AM
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4. ah yes
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:00 AM by eShirl
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:57 AM
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5. 1 million + dead in Iraq
I wish some union toughs had beat the shit out of those punks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #5
90. I was heartbroken like everyone else
who gave a crap when they shut down the voting because of that shit!
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:00 AM
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6. A pox on all their houses.
A slow painful death to them all.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:03 AM
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7. we really ought to be collecting pics.
maybe in the research forum.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:40 AM
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34. GREAT IDEA!!!!
Show up at these town hall meetings and start taking photos of every tea bagger you can find. Even better if you show up with several people who are obviously working as a team. Since they are at a public gathering you have the right to photograph them and they have NO expectancy of privacy. It will absolutely FREAK THEM OUT - who cares what happens to the photos.

Kodak Psy-Ops...
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #34
46. i am expecting our local kook.
he hates when the camera gets turned on him.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #34
77. Intellegence tytpes did this all the time
At various anti-war rallies. They would make a big show of it. I have no idea if they still do, and have just gotten more subtle about it.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #77
99. Oh, they still do
believe me. I know firsthand.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:05 AM
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8. Just stole your picture. I can never find it when I want it.
The relevance to today is solid.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:06 AM
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9. Good point, and it suggests a possible response...
Get good pictures of the disruptors, and identify them. If they turn out to be politicians' staffers or something like that, publish the identity information.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:07 AM
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10. It's something I'll never forget.
:mad:

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Armchair QB Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:07 AM
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11. That's why we have to get out in larger numbers. Can't sit back now
hopefully there won't be violence
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #11
97. Welcome!
:hi:
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:09 AM
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12. Question
Would it be legal to bring a video camera and follow these people from or back to their busses?

Just wondering.

-90% Jimmy
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. TMZ does it all the time
I think you've got a good idea there!
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urbanasaurus Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #12
20. Hell yes photograph them
Video would be even better.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #20
51. That' what they do at all of our protests....
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:24 AM
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14. The current crew may be hired help
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:26 AM by jotsy
10 to 12 weeks ago, I was checking out available part time jobs on craigs list when I came across an ad for "conservative actors and actresses". I remember thinking that, curious as I was, I didn't see myself successfully infiltrating their ranks to get an answer as to what they were up to. Now, I feel like I know.

Democrats can't help but look as reactionary as they are reported to be at this point, but since every little bit helps, here are a few things representatives getting heckled might try.

1. Bring a megaphone.

2. Inform the hecklers that it's wonderful they made up their minds and now they should vacate to let others exercise the right to draw their own conclusions.

3. Post pictures of hecklers from prior incidents, it might serve to limit their credibility if they're seen at a number of venues.

4. Have Youtube video playing of these people arriving together so when they act like random and independent protesters, the crowd who came to genuinely learn about the options will realize they are being sold a phony bill of goods.

It might not help, but I don't think calling out posers for what they are can't hurt.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. Good info and suggestions all around and welcome to DU.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #14
92. That is good info, jotsy..I've been saying to
bring a megaphone or bullhorn for a couple of days now.

Here's a proven successful Town Hall Meeting that took place in Indiana on Monday and some links.

"Tea Baggers FAIL to disrupt Health Care meeting, lessons shared."

by Don Briggs

Share this on Twitter - Tea Baggers FAIL to disrupt Health Care meeting, lessons shared. Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 10:50:13 PM PDT

The Democratic Alliance of Northwest Indiana (DANI ) hosted a meeting with Rep. Pete Visclosky (D, IN-01), on Monday, Aug. 3, 6:30 PM. We invited the public and their written questions. It seems good to share with the Daily Kos readership some lessons we learned.

Bottom line:
We had an orderly and productive meeting.
No one stood up, shouted out and sat down.
At no point was our Congressman or audience rattled.
DANI accomplished its objective. We provided the public an opportunity to question our Congressman about Health Care and Clean Energy.
Tea Baggers came out in force, but they failed to disrupt the meeting.
Local reporters attended.

"Lessons learned follow below the fold."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/4/13836/02418

Hissyspit's thread on GD with Gems of Action..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

More ideas from Rude Pundit..crossposted from GD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:27 AM
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16. Yes. They continue to destroy the country
They abuse the best this country has to offer, and they believe in the worst this country does.
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:33 AM
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17. Seems to me
It would be fairly easy to stop this even if it would slow things a little, make the meetings "private" open only to local residents with proof of residency to be admitted... That would end most of it, they could stay outside and make all the fuss they wanted but they would not disrupt the meetings.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. Bush prevented protesters from disrupting his "town halls" and we all griped.
Now the Dems are faced with the same issue. Do we tolerate the disruption?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. The difference is there weren't health insurance backed resources bussing protestors to Bush events
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #19
27. How people get somewhere isn't the issue for me; I think we have to
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 11:05 AM by mnhtnbb
let them attend but make it very clear disruption won't be tolerated.

On another thread, police presence seemed to be helpful in affirming the tone
set at the beginning with rules and expected behaviors.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:10 AM
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29. The point isn't necessarily the bussing...it's that big insurance corporations are funding it
these protesters wouldn't exist if they weren't backed by insurance companies and their lobbyists.

Bush was afraid of real people and filled his town-halls with supporters only.

Democrats are facing fake protesters sponsored by industry. There's a big difference between the two. You can't compare Democrats wanting to shut down these fake protesters with Bush's free-speech zones.
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #18
36. Hmmm
I do believe that was slightly different in that we the disruptions at *'s meetings were in the form of anti war and pro human rights groups and were not being bought and paid for by big business...I do not like any attempts to stop people from exercising their basic right to freedom of speech but their rights end where ours begin also..
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #18
68. Bush limited attendance to "true believers" only
What pissed me off was that he was restricting everyone else from seeing their president, even though as taxpayers they were sharing the cost of his being there.

For a congressman or senator to require that those attending the town hall be from his district seems like a reasonable restriction to me. Or they could give priority admission to residents, and admit others on a space-available basis. Even if they were eventually let in, the disrupters would be identified for what they are -- a bunch of paid goons sent by the GOP solely for the purpose of preventing any meaningful dialog about reforming health insurance.

Having photos of them attending other town halls would be a nice touch. Maybe with the caption, "Performing Tonight, the GOP Goon Squad, presented by the Republican National Committee and the Insurance Industry."
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #18
83. The difference is WE THE PEOPLE want to ATTEND THESE meetings...
only the PROFESSIONAL REPUKE DISRUPTORS want to "disrupt" AND WE tell the TRUTH, while THEY bring their LIES...
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:43 AM
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21. If you have MSM contact info, please send this pic.

Let this bite the repugs on the ass.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:45 AM
Response to Original message
22. It looked good on the tee vee.
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:46 AM by Octafish

Role model Roderick Spode.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #22
35. It always does when the TV screen is full of screaming assh0les.
Focus in close. Make a few look look a mob.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. Image is everything.
Friends of yours?

http://mediafilter.org /

Old as the hills, but get into the archives and peruse some of the finest reportage anywhere on the old frat boys and their tentacles.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Bookmarked
Great link, thanks. :hi:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:48 AM
Response to Original message
23. Do you realize what those schmucks did was, in the real world, illegal?
Weren't they trying to break into a government office during the process of recounting a National Election? Isn't that a federal offense?

Supposedly, no member of the BBR was ever arrested and three of them were appointed to the Bewsh White House staff. Unbelievable.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #23
109. Junta Justice redefined "legal" in America, incorporating things like war crimes
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 09:23 AM by L. Coyote
and spying on political opposition.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:52 AM
Response to Original message
25. K&R. I wish Rachel would air this photo tonight and identify the people in it. It
would be a natural follow-up to last night's story, IMO.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #25
74. As you know...she just did it!
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #74
117. I'm not surprised. She and her team always do a thorough job of presenting the news.
:thumbsup:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:53 AM
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26. they did it a lot of times after that...
no one here remembers the 'protest warriors?' Joe the non-union apprentice? That jerko who wanted Obama (or biden?) to say the pledge??
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:08 AM
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28. There should be some basic rules for behavior
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 11:08 AM by goclark
:shrug:
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:13 AM
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30. They even have their own name. The Brooks Brothers Rioters. eom
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:34 AM
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31. I plan on making at least one of Senator Claire McCaskill roundtable meetings
If the teabaggers disrupt the meeting you will be able to see me, as I will be the one with the sign saying this disruption brought to you courtesy of the health insurance lobby.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:35 AM
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32. Thugs
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. Thugs who won by Mob Rule. Let's not let it happen again.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:58 AM
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37. Rec and kick.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:12 PM
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39. Miami 'Riot' Squad: Where Are They Now?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. assholes then as now.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:55 PM
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42. yes. If the 2000 terrorists
had been met with baseball bats and small arms, the course of history might well have been different. All of the votes would have been counted, Gore might have been president (I can't rule out the corrupt SCOTUS cancelling the election anyway), and the country wouldn't be bankrupt.

But we're too weak to fight back. We were then, and we are now.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:14 PM
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43. Can't the cops be called in on these situations?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:18 PM
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44. How can I ever forget that?
That was when I went from disagreement to hate of our GOP.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #44
56. Well said. I did as well.
Incidentally, proud2BlibKansas, I owe you an apology for the comment I made on this thread regarding KC:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I was a little miffed then regarding that OP, along with--
1) Finding out I lived only a few miles from a crazed, neo-con murderer (Roeder);
2) Hearing that Brownback is eyeing the governor's mansion in Topeka;
3) Learning that Moore may not run for re-election.

Just a little jaded, right now...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. WTF are you talking about?
Was I supposed to be pissed at you? Well. I was not.

It's all good :hug:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:19 PM
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45. Yep.
I commented the other day that these protests seem a lot like the Brooks Bro. riots.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:24 PM
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47. A great reminder that we can't afford to be complacent with these crackpots. nt
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:26 PM
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48. Both sides do this...
Karl Rove came to my University to speak and was basically paid for nothing because people in the crowd kept shouting him down. He just sat up there and smiled and raked in his thousands of dollars for sitting on stage. I would have rather had the douschebag at least have to speak and earn his money, but instead people who wanted to make the front page of the newspaper gave that dick a free lunch.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:45 PM
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49. Sorry, but that is a bunch of b.s. The example you cite were individuals
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 01:47 PM by berni_mccoy
NOT backed financially by a large Insurance industry and GOP astroturf machine.

There's a difference between REAL GRASS ROOTS efforts to expose the truth and Industry financed astroturf fauxrage to shut down the Democratic process.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:59 PM
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50. SC Chief John Roberts also had a great deal to do with the fascist moves re 2000 ---
John Roberts -- fascism with a smile --

http://www.democrats.com/node/6119
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:47 AM
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103. +1, defendandprotect.
Browns shirts without the shirts.
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Horus45 Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 03:36 PM
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54. So sick of Cons
With all my heart I wish every conservative in this country would just drop dead!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:35 AM
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110. The Classic of all Republican Cons, impeaching Bill Clinton
Lots of background on the Freeper Con industry here:

Deja DU: Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral
Jun-02-07 = http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

My ALL TIME favorite in the "Lengths to Which They Will Go" category:

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Swiftboating Al Gore from Argentina, SIDE, Israeli wire transfers, spy files, forgery, Bush & Menem
Sun Jun-10-07 by L. Coyote
There just is no way to make this stuff up!! This is a court pleading. Unbelievable.

First get some spy files from Israel, alter them to look like Argentine spy files, make them implicate Bush and Menem in corruption, blame Gore for the forged documents. Sound familiar. Did I mention blackmailing bribed journalists and, of course, the perennial covert Republican dirty tricksters. This genre of dirty trick came to be known as "swiftboating" when done to Kerry four years later by the same players!!

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http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/041901.P.pdf
Olavar (Triumph Communications International Group, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v.
Santibaes, Defendant-Appellee, and Ikon Holdings, Inc., t/a Ikon Public Affairs, Dick Morris, Roger Stone, Eileen McGann, John Does, Defendants.

Appeal from the United States District Court Decided: December 1, 2005

Triumph Communications International Group, Incorporated is a corporation that provides political consulting and public relations services and is owned and operated solely by Mattie Lolavar.

In early 2000, Miss Lolavar began discussions with defendant Dick Morris about the possibility of her working with Craig Snyder and defendant Roger Stone, who are partners in defendant IKON Holdings, Inc., another political consulting firm ... about the possibility of Triumph Communications assistance with work that IKON was doing for the government of Argentina.
These discussions lead to two contracts ... and provided that Triumph would act as a public relations consultant to "the Secretary of Intelligence of Argentina" as well as arrange various media events...

Miss Lolavar went to Argentina in August 2000 to assist de Santibaes with preparations for his testimony in Argentine congressional hearings inquiring into allegations that he and the Argentine intelligence agency, known as SIDE, were responsible for bribing various Argentine senators in exchange for political support. Morris and Stone assigned other tasks to Miss Lolavar while she was in Argentina. Among other acts, they instructed her to contact SIDE and obtain a list of journalists who accepted bribes from that organization in order to harm the credibility of those same journalists in reporting on a bribery scandal surrounding de Santibaes and President de la Rua, as well as requiring her to spread false information to the press concerning de la Ruas political opponent, Dr. Carlos Menem. The charges and counter-charges related here are from the papers in the court file, as are the other facts.

A request that occasioned controversy between Miss Lolavar and the defendants was Morris and Stones request that she serve as an intermediary in an anonymous wire transfer of funds to an official in Israel. These funds were to be paid to secure intelligence files from the Israeli government to assist de la Ruas political domestic disputes with Menem, and to imply a corrupt relationship between Menem and George W. Bush, who was then running against Albert Gore for the United States presidency. These files were to be altered by Miss Lolavar to appear to be SIDE documents.

When the defendants became concerned that this plot would be discovered and traced back to them, they ordered Miss Lolavar to orchestrate a press response to blame Vice President Gore for the dissemination of the documents, since it was known to them that the Gore campaign had been attempting to connect Menem with the Bush campaign.

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:02 PM
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55. No less thuggish than the bushvgore edict itself.
For those unfamiliar with that bit of electoral violence and High Court Treason.

None Dare Call It Treason
By Vincent Bugliosi

This article appeared in the February 5, 2001 edition of The Nation.

In the December 12 ruling by the US Supreme Court handing the election to George Bush, the Court committed the unpardonable sin of being a knowing surrogate for the Republican Party instead of being an impartial arbiter of the law. If you doubt this, try to imagine Al Gore's and George Bush's roles being reversed and ask yourself if you can conceive of Justice Antonin Scalia and his four conservative brethren issuing an emergency order on December 9 stopping the counting of ballots (at a time when Gore's lead had shrunk to 154 votes) on the grounds that if it continued, Gore could suffer "irreparable harm," and then subsequently, on December 12, bequeathing the election to Gore on equal protection grounds. If you can, then I suppose you can also imagine seeing a man jumping away from his own shadow, Frenchmen no longer drinking wine.


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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:38 PM
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57. We should send them all brown shirts. . . n/t
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 05:25 PM
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61. Nah, black shorts. Octafish (upthread) is right-- their true spiritual leader is Roderick Spode,
the amateur dictator and designer of ladies' underwear, in the PG Wodehouse stories.

derisively,
Bright
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:55 PM
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58. Fascists sent by the Republican Congress to kill democracy.
Thanks for the reminder, berni. :thumbsup:
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 05:25 PM
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60. Oh God...
Just the memory of that and all it cost us - and the world. I think I am going to be sick now.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:02 AM
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104. All it cost us, yes. Did they have a motive?
Duh. In the aftermath of BushCo we can see why they were so highly motivated to overthrow clean election results.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:37 PM
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62. Barbara Boxer
just made the exact same observation on Hardball.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:38 PM
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63. What a fine, representative random sampling of Floriday voters!
Ah, Democracy! If it doesn't produce what you want, cheat!
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jellen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:43 PM
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64. Rep. disruptions
Ya, everytime we have a gathering ,they're there!
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Cybertronian Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:46 PM
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65. Do not cave in to the republican conservative assholes
I believe President Obama should stand his ground and not let any one of these morons dictate what his agenda should be. The pathetic Republican conservative assholes have been knocked out of the elections, and now are continuing to whine and cry like overgrown gorillas. It is time that they are put in their places. I suggest President Obama go on with all of his agenda, ignore the Republican conservative maggots... I agree with Representative Waxman that they should just have healthcare reform through a committee... I also believe that electoral reforms must be executed so that not one Republican conservative maggot ever influences the country for generations to come. I believe President Obama is doing a great job.
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Cybertronian Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:54 PM
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67. Asshole Conservadorks and Republithugs resorting to violence with tea parties...
The Conservadorks and the Repoopligoons are undermining the United States with their tea parties, their asinine and childish whinings and bitchings, and talk radio with Seanie Vanity, Hush Bimbo, Michael Wiener, Glen Feck, and the others... These morons are trying to overthrow President Obama's government and undermining him. They have thoughts of violence and delusions of grandeur. They must be dealt with and neutralized by President Obama adopting election reforms so that the conservadorks or repooplithugs ever go into power ever again. I hope something must be done to these morons soon, before they destroy the entire country. Report whatever propaganda and falsehoods they are spreading about President Obama's healthcare agenda and report people trying to undermine President Obama to Flag@Whitehouse.gov
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Richd506 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:53 PM
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66. K Effing R!!!!
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:21 PM
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70. THANKS FOR THIS POST. RECOMMENDED. Thus was ushered in the coup staged by the GOP.

Just because we are now in the second Democracy of the United States we should not assume another subversion of our democracy cannot occur again.

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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:26 PM
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72. That was my first thought, too. And if we let them get away with it again, we've failed.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:48 PM
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73. This needs to be on a billboard.
:kick: Lyin liars, all of them, hypocrites and frauds.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:05 PM
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75. One ugly but possibly the only effective way to stop them.
Go to the meetings. When someone starts this kind of nonsense, slug them. I don't mean verbal stuff like you do here. Go up and punch the Republican shill. Start a genuine fight.

This will probably land both of you in jail. And this is where another person must come into play. Watch to see WHO BAILS OUT the Republican guy. Get the name of the person or organization who posts bail. Get the details. Post them. Send them to responsible media.

This is the only way to prove that these guys are paid for by Republicans, Big Pharma and Big Insurance.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:17 PM
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76. Yes, those wretched bastards.
We must never allow that to be a successful tactic again.

The instance you thoughtfully provide a picture of (and the cast of characters) is what prompted me to start referring to/thinking of Republicans as Rethugs.

Julie
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:30 PM
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78. k&r--i thought the same thing. n/t
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:41 PM
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79. Your thread made it to buzzflash
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:44 PM
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81. Hell yes. THESE PEOPLE ARE DISRUPTING FREE SPEECH.
They are violating our rights. The rights of free speech does not include creating noise machines that drown out people when they try to express their political views. That's censorship.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:47 PM
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82. I remember it like it was this morning - my jaw dropped to the floor when I saw that...
and I almost lost my TV multiple times from almost throwing things at it...
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:54 PM
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84. Rec. #251! Rachel gave special mention to my disgraced RW former congressman...
John Sweeney: :grr:

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greymattermom Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:13 PM
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86. burn your medicare card
I'm trying to start this campaign. Only right if you think government health care is socialism. Let's get this out to the freeper community!
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:28 PM
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88. that should be the new t-shirt and bumper sticker
If you don't like it, burn your Medicare card.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:15 PM
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87. First thing that occurred to me, as well.
n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:30 PM
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89. Everybody is recalling this from the latest loud and
obnoxious shouting down from the bussed in disuptors. And, the corporatemediaWhores are trying to legitimatize them again.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:37 PM
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91. i don't think the media questioned their legitimacy either.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:43 PM
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93. Right wing hate mobs have stolen our rightful history.

December, 2000, Miami-Dade Polling Headquarters






January 20, 2001, against the fury of the populace



Demonstrators protest against the election results as the inaugural parade passes by Freedom Plaza in Washington, January 20, 2001. Thousands of demonstrators booed the inauguration of President George W. Bush which took place amid the tightest security measures ever. (Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)





Unleashing the Eight-Year Siege of 2001-2009




America, it is time to rescue our country from this plague of hatred, arrogance and ignorance.


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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:18 AM
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94. yep I remember
:hi:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:48 AM
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95. That this thread was un-rec'ed is reason enough to drop that category.
No one but a troll would un-rec the OP.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:44 AM
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111. This is a great way to identify trolls, get their IPs, etc.
Oh, the beauty of log files. We can even turn them in for Hatch Act violations!

You can do this yourselves if you have a server space. Just place an invisible image in a post, then track the requests for the image. You can see which computer each person who reads the thread is on, and clock the posts and unrecs! If a Congressional aide is unrec'ing on DU on a government computer, FIRED!!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:56 AM
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96. K&R I don think they are sleeping well....THEY KNOW WE KNOW....
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:20 AM
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98. Repukes have to fake everything and then take pills to hide their
own sense of shame. Repukes are never sincere or authentic in any way. Never original in thought or act. Reactive creatures that break more then they create.

Just MHO.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:32 AM
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100. K&Rec #299 - Rachel Maddow: History Of The Republican's "Thugs"
Rachel Maddow: History Of The Republican's "Thugs" - 08/04/09: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9yaqPFnUpo

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:08 AM
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106. Great video. Love to Rachel!
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:19 AM
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102. This is the root of their being
and success. They just don't care by what means they use to get their way. The best counter might be to drag them into the street for a good beating. With pain comes awareness.
Instead we have scumbags like Max Baucus saying we can't do anything without these bastards.
The reason Democrats are perceived as weak is because even with large majorities our leaders cower in the corner in fear of what the bad ass Republicans might say about them.
The Democratic leadership should be locked in a room and forced to listen to Franklin Roosevelt say "We have nothing to fear but fear itself." until the message sinks in or we get new leaders.
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dschis Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:29 AM
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115. Max Bacchus has been bought by the same crowd
that owns the GOP.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:14 AM
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107. You left out the name of the person who slipped the cash and instructions under their hotel doors
Oh yeah, not even they know who that was!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:44 AM
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112. KnR n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:45 AM
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113. yep and with the help of the compliant media, they won that round
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:11 AM
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114. They believe we are stupidly gullible. They know their own followers are
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 10:11 AM by peacetalksforall
stupidly gullible. But, some of them are not.

They don't respect the citizens of this country. They will keep doing this - they have no shame and they believe in Atwater, Rove, and flipped, bumbled, destruve reality shifts.

It is essential to make a list of what they are for and against -

Corporate media never stood up to Republicans about the stealth of the door pounding event.
Corporate media has never stood up to Republicans about voting machines.
Corporate media has never stood up to Republicans about missing money from DOD HUD

There are thousands of crimes that they have aided and abetted. The media was on the same side as the people in the photo above.

As bizarre, self-blinded, transparent, obnoxious, stubborn as this woman is about her and her followers concoction - I ask you to notice something -

Every time corporate media goes after some issue with this volume of negation and put down
there is a single woman involved who gets sacrificed.

Chandra Levy Monica Lewinsky Anna Nicole Smith.

Purposely move your focus from this woman and concentrate on GEnbc while you watch them.

I propose this - someone in the Repub planning committee wants to win both ways - they want their followers who have a clearer head to know that they don't believe this and they want their followers who believe every bigoted, non-white hate based angle to never forget this issue. This women with her backers stepped into the middle and went to the top with her stealth. They had a choice of decorum in the way it was handled. She (OT) has been sacrificed perfectly for this purpose, strategy, and tactic by their stealth which is Republican. It's all Republican. Strategy delivered (with revenue to be made by extended coverage).

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dschis Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:34 AM
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116. Couldn't agree more
You have give them all a healthy dose of skepticism. Get your news from everywhere you can, don't just follow what some anchor says. USE COMMON SENSE
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:28 PM
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121. They remember THEIR history well.
All these disruptions are taken directly from the NAZI playbook that guided the BROWN SHIRTS in their support for HITLER.
Same group, different year.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:49 PM
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122. Finally, the police have a legitimate use for their tasers, but where are they?
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 04:50 PM by Vidar
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