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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:12 PM
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Is Cheney eligible for burial in Arlington National Cemetery?
Please tell me "no".
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:13 PM
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1. Cheney's dead?
:toast: :beer: :headbang: :woohoo:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:13 PM
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46. Unfortunately not
...we have to wait until after he is convicted for treason.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:41 PM
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47. Right....
...then he'll conveniently "die" just like his friend Kenny Boy Lay did. Wonder what really happenned to that bastard?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:13 PM
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2. Hopefully we'll find out soon.
:)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:13 PM
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3. pet cemetary.....at best
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:13 PM
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4. I say yes, as long as he is not dead yet
Once he stops moving, then he has to be reburied elsewhere.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:19 PM
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13. Works for me. A special section of the cemetery named "Chickenhawk Corner."
Rush and Hannity are a couple others who should join him.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:30 PM
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40. Yes.....
and they could also dedicate a corner for the evil un dead. Cheney would qualify for that, as would most of Bush's advisers and intimates.

They could also encourage visitors. It would give "stake holders" a whole new meaning.:woohoo:
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:15 PM
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5. There is a plot with his name on it at Burr Oak
It's in the drainage ditch near the outhouse.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:15 PM
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6. I think you have to be human or a military working animal
n/t

Cheney is neither.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:28 PM
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18. Does Chimpy count as a "working animal"?
God I hope not.
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wolfsbane Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:15 PM
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7. Look what I found!
Cheney just has a way with people, doesn't he?

http://ischeneydeadyet.com/
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:50 PM
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30. How can someone have zero posts?
:shrug:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:53 PM
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31. maybe it's the same way you get to be a martial arts instructor for quadraplegics.
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 06:54 PM by Gabi Hayes
some guy on the radio, when asked what he did for a living, gave that response
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:09 PM
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44. I was wondering that myself.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:16 PM
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8. I hope not.
Because I think they don't allow pissing on graves there.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:42 PM
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26. It's so hard to find someone with the same hobby. And we didn't even use eHarmony!
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:16 PM
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9. According to ANC's website, no...
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 06:19 PM by Dennis Donovan
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/funeral_information/guide.interment.html

-The President of the United States or any former President of the United States.
-Any former member of the Armed Forces* who served on active duty (other than for training) and who held any of the following positions:
An elective office of the U.S. Government
Office of the Chief Justice of the United States or of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.
An office listed, at the time the person held the position, in 5 USC 5312 or 5313 (Levels I and II of the Executive Schedule).
The chief of a mission who was at any time during his/her tenure classified in Class I under the provisions of Section 411, Act of 13 August 1946, 60 Stat. 1002, as amended (22 USC 866) or as listed in State Department memorandum dated March 21, 1988.

Mr 5 deferrments isn't eligible according to any of these guidelines...
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:18 PM
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12. Yeah I just found that site.
I thought there might have been a special clause for cabinet members and the President's staff or something.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:21 PM
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15. Nope, only the Prez and only holders of elective office IF they served in the military...
Crashcart's done neither (and being defacto prez doesn't count...;))
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:16 PM
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10. Yes, but I doubt he wants to go there.
I imagine Dick Cheney as the sort of fellow who would have had pyramids built for himself, given the opportunity.

However, I also suspect Dick Cheney is walking around with the heart of a seventeen year old Iraqi boy right now, so we probably won't have to worry about his choice for quite some time.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:20 PM
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14. I don't think he is.
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 06:22 PM by arcadian
Unless they allow civilian workers of the DoD, which I don't think they do.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:36 PM
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21. Maybe you're right.
I know that there are more cabinet members buried in Arlington than anywhere else, but most of them appear to have done some military service. Even William Jennings Bryan served as a volunteer in the Spanish-American war, never leaving Florida but apparently guaranteeing him a spot in Arlington.

There are no Vice Presidents buried in Arlington, with the obvious exception of William Howard Taft, who got in for acceding to the Presidency.

However, in recent decades it has become common for Presidents about to undergo surgery to turn over CINC duties to the Vice President for the duration of the President's down time. I believe that happened several times with Bush and Cheney, not including the morning of September 11, 2001, when neither was in charge.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:43 PM
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28. Taft was never VP...
...he might've EATEN his VP (whatever happened to James S Sherman, anyway?):D
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:01 PM
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48. Oops, my bad again!
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:59 PM
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32. Taft was also Chief Justice of SCOTUS
So he's a two-fer!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:17 PM
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11. If they flush him down a toilet, sure.
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Randypiper Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:23 PM
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16. He will probably have his head frozen.
Imagine that snarl for eternity.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:25 PM
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17. No. He's not a veteran, nor a President.
He was never active duty, so he doesn't qualify under the executive schedule exceptions, either.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:31 PM
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19. OK. No.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:35 PM
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20. a collective sigh...
good to know he ain't eligible
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:37 PM
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22. He should join JEHover
He is buried in one of the few cemetery's that allow people to walk their dogs.
Poetic justice at its best!
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:37 PM
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23. Is he dead? This is the first thread that I took notice of...
I hate to be a ghoul, but my first thought upon seeing the subject line was not what one would call a "Good Atheist thought."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:38 PM
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24. No.
He's not on this list:






| click here for the text only version of this page |



A Guide to Burial at Arlington National Cemetery

Establishing Eligibility

Eligibility for Interment (Ground Burial)

The persons specified below are eligible for ground burial in Arlington National Cemetery. The last period of active duty of former members of the Armed Forces must have ended honorably. Interment may be casketed or cremated remains.

Any active duty member of the Armed Forces (except those members serving on active duty for training only).
Any veteran who is retired from active military service with the Armed Forces.
Any veteran who is retired from the Reserves is eligible upon reaching age 60 and drawing retired pay; and who served a period of active duty (other than for training).
Any former member of the Armed Forces separated honorably prior to October 1, 1949 for medical reasons and who was rated at 30% or greater disabled effective on the day of discharge.
Any former member of the Armed Forces who has been awarded one of the following decorations:
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Cross (Navy Cross or Air Force Cross)
Distinguished Service Medal
Silver Star
Purple Heart
The President of the United States or any former President of the United States.
Any former member of the Armed Forces who served on active duty (other than for training) and who held any of the following positions:
An elective office of the U.S. Government
Office of the Chief Justice of the United States or of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.
An office listed, at the time the person held the position, in 5 USC 5312 or 5313 (Levels I and II of the Executive Schedule).
The chief of a mission who was at any time during his/her tenure classified in Class I under the provisions of Section 411, Act of 13 August 1946, 60 Stat. 1002, as amended (22 USC 866) or as listed in State Department memorandum dated March 21, 1988.
Any former prisoner of war who, while a prisoner of war, served honorably in the active military, naval, or air service, whose last period of military, naval or air service terminated honorably and who died on or after November 30, 1993.
The spouse, widow or widower, minor child, or permanently dependent child, and certain unmarried adult children of any of the above eligible veterans.
The widow or widower of:
a member of the Armed Forces who was lost or buried at sea or officially determined to be missing in action.
a member of the Armed Forces who is interred in a US military cemetery overseas that is maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission.
a member of the Armed Forces who is interred in Arlington National Cemetery as part of a group burial.
The surviving spouse, minor child, or permanently dependent child of any person already buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
The parents of a minor child, or permanently dependent child whose remains, based on the eligibility of a parent, are already buried in ANC. A spouse divorced from the primary eligible, or widowed and remarried, is not eligible for interment.
Provided certain conditions are met, a former member of the Armed Forces may be buried in the same grave with a close relative who is already buried and is the primary eligible.


http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/funeral_information/guide.interment.html





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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:40 PM
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25. About 1000 miles below it......

IN HELL !!!!!

:evilfrown:



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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:43 PM
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27. If he is I'll know where to go take a piss....
when he keels over.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:46 PM
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29. Only if he falls into a grave while robbing it
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:08 PM
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33. What now? I think you have to be dead first.
Of course I always suspected he was dead from the neck up.

:eyes:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:11 PM
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34. They'd have to import some unhallowed dirt from Transylvania
or else I think the coffin would go up in smoke.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:14 PM
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35. Why do you ask? Making plans?
:evilgrin:
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:15 PM
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36. Yes.
Under the manure pile at the Ft. Myer Stables.
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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:19 PM
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37. If he is convicted of war crimes - I don't think so.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:22 PM
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38. Why did he die? n/t
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:24 PM
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39. Not until he's dead, unfortunately.
In this case I think they should do the country a favor and bury him ahead of schedule.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:32 PM
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41. Since he owns it I say drop him in Saddam's spider hole
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:05 PM
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42. Stop counting your chickens, son
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:08 PM
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43. I wouldn't even put him in my compost heap.
Garbage, old newspaper, horse shit...yes.

Cheney...no

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:13 PM
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45. it would be the ultimate insult to our military persons.
perhaps their souls could haunt him for all time
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