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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:25 PM
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Poll question: Whose fault if we do not get health care plan passed??
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 01:34 PM by kentuck
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:27 PM
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1. That would depend on WHY it doesn't pass...
How does one assign blame for something that hasn't even happened yet???
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:28 PM
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2. which plan? the one that mandates we pay insurance or get fined?
or the one where we get universal single payer coverage (that never stood a chance of getting passed)
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:29 PM
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3. exactly!
:shrug:
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:32 PM
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4. +1
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 01:34 PM by Hydra
Flaw in the plan itself- it started from the perspective of "How much of a handout for the insurance companies and how much of a new bubble can we create, then how can we sell that as a miracle to the little people?"
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:37 PM
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9. Bubble > Bailout
oop$
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:42 PM
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10. It's true, unfortunately
After perhaps the worst and most choreographed crash imaginable, they're setting up a insurance/health care bubble and even a carbon credit market to scam.

This system is horrible.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:46 PM
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13. Just bail them out now. Kick up the vig, and get the inevitable single payer
Speed this process up I say.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:54 PM
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14. so well said!
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:33 PM
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5. Fault?
IMHO there isn't anything under copnsideration that iw worthy of being passed into law.

The current alternatives being considered are a clusterfuck which will leave million uninsured and in worse shape than they already are. But I guess it will ease a few consciences.....
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:34 PM
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6. "We Have Met The Enemy and They is Us"
We vote for these fuckers - we get what we deserve.

Until the Left is willing to vote for a third party, our elected Democrats will move far Right because they know that we have to vote for them,
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:35 PM
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7. They are not 'centrist democrats' they are thinly disguised Republicans
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:36 PM
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8. Most of this is correct . . . but we can't depend on e-mails and telephone calls .. ....
WTF . . .

WHY AREN'T LABOR UNIONS -- WHAT'S LEFT OF THEM -- AND WOMEN'S GROUPS --

CALLING FOR DEMONSTRATIONS ... ORGANIZING THEM?

IN FACT, SHOULDN'T DEMOCRATS BE ORGANIZING US INTO DEMONSTRATIONS?????

DO WE THINK THE GOP MIGHT NOT BE ORGANIZING THE FREEPERS ---???????????????????
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:43 PM
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11. The usual suspects: The corporate fellating whores known as the DLC
and the BlueBalled Cowards.

It only becomes Obama's fault if they pass a SHIT bill, and he signs it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:43 PM
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12. Wow!! The "centrist" Democrats are winning in a landslide!
I hope they realize the thin ice they are skating on?
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