Ed Schultz apologizing for Imus apology.

[johncoby2]

Sometimes Ed is on the wrong side of common sense.

He is not defending Imus, but instead defending his apology.

He is making no sense.

[Bluzmann57]

1. Imus apologized

Whether or not is was sincere, we really have no way of knowing. We are not in his head. I have a simple solution though. If you don't like Imus, DON'T WATCH OR LISTEN! Pretty simple huh? See, I don't like limbaugh, so I just don't listen. And my life is better because of it. The same principle can be applied to Imus.

[peacetalksforall]

4. It's one thing to not watch and it's another to think that the problem

has gone away because you don't see it? Don't you think it's just something temporary? I never watch FOX, but I watached enough to learn just how predicatable they are - I never seem to miss anything. I think there is a big difference - I am amazed at the number of people who recognize FOX for what it is, but then I learn these same people think NBC is liberal?

The NBCs are getting away with plenty. We probably spend more time speaking about the crimes against the country by GE, MS, and their three networks and stations. Because we expect more. For decades they were a media that we bought into completely. They morphed and we need to stay on alert to teach others about what is going on. Every once in awhile someone praises Matthews, Gregory, Russert and the next minute they are bashing them. Everyone is enamoured with Keith (deservedly) for now.

I feel it's our job to be bothered.

Sorry, for the rant, this is supposed to be about Ed.

If we hear any news people protesting AGAINST MSNBC Microsoft and GE, let me know.

I got to hear Democracy Now - there was a good twenty minutes on it - very educational. Probably more to come.

[stanwyck]

6. That's rather cowardly, don't you think?

Imus makes an incredibly ugly comment about a group of accomplished young women, and the response is a shrug? A "don't watch, don't listen"? So, people get a free pass to make any kind of outrageously stupid comment without rebuttal or outrage from people who have standards and actually believe a person deserves to be castigated for racism? We're standing up for these women and saying he crossed the line. And, you know, the "mistakes were made" apology is getting pretty over-used. It's the go-to band-aid for poisonous behavior.
The let-them-say-whatever-lies-they-want doesn't really work that well. Look at John Kerry letting the Swiftboat Liars for Hire trash his reputation. Disgraceful. He should have called the liars out. They were paid whores who lied. Yet they got plenty of ink and airtime; and successfully smeared his reputation.
And now you're giving a flat-out racist a pass because he mumbled a weak apology.
Glad we had people with more spine fighting for Civil Rights and opposing the Viet Nam War. Your type of casual acceptance hardly gets important work done.

[Solo_in_MD]

9. Why should Imus be chastized when the thug rappers say much the same thing and are lionized?

Is there a double standard in play?

[stanwyck]

12. I'm not lionizing any thugs who denigrate women

and make racist remarks. And it's time to put the third-grade "he's doing it" excuse away when we're talking about an adult with his own television and radio show. What does the behavior of a segment of the rap contingent have to do with Imus calling a women's basketball team "nappy headed hos"?
Of course he should be chastized. He made an ugly, racist remark. And those of us who are women, and those men who truly respect and love women, were offended.
So. We're chastizing him. Leave the rappers out of this. Imus made the remark. Take him on what he said. He can exhibit some of the infamous "personal responsibility" instead of scuttling away from his own remarks.

[Solo_in_MD]

14. But are you even considering going after the thugs or just the shock jock?

[stanwyck]

16. Just the shock jock

and so you've successfully illuminated my hypocrisy which is to avoid the thug rappers who are verbally abusive to women, just as others have advised just avoiding Imus. But I choose only to castigate him and ignore the rappers. Both are selling their heinous product and know their audience. Both pander to base tendencies. You're right, though. There is hypocrisy. However, Imus shouldn't use this as a shield. The "well, those guys are doing it" little kid excuse. Maybe our expectations are higher for him. (He does have a nationally broadcast show.) And, clearly, they shouldn't be. He's as disgusting as any thug rapper, despite the thin veneer of respectability.

[orleans]

17. ...so then it's okay imus said what he said since we're not going after the "thugs"?

[walldude]

13. Really? A double standard?

Recent controversies involving Imus focused on a member of his morning team, Sid Rosenberg, who was fired two years ago after a particularly vile crack about cancer-stricken singer Kylie Minogue. Before that, a racially tinged comment by Rosenberg about tennis stars Venus and Serena Williams stirred another controversy(he called them animals).

The NABJ cited two other incidents in which Imus himself insulted two black journalists. Imus has called Gwen Ifill of PBS a "cleaning lady" and described William C. Rhoden of The New York Times as "a quota hire," the group said.

Don Imus referred to the "Jewish management" of CBS Radio as "money-grubbing bastards" on the November 30 broadcast of MSNBC's Imus in the Morning. Note he made sure to say the "Jewish Management" not just the management.


Imus is a racist asshole, he and his ilk need to be put out to pasture... or he can keep doing it and apologizing, cause you know, he might be sincere...:eyes:

[Solo_in_MD]

15. Yes it is a double standard, but unless there is serious economic damage, nothing will change

[Solo_in_MD]

10. Dupe - Deleted

[tkmorris]

7. No

There are people that we can take or leave, listen to or not, as a matter of taste.

Imus is not one of them. Imus is one of those rare few that should NOT be granted a public forum in which to speak, so offensive is their message.

Whay are you defending this guy?

[valerief]

2. Ed is such a wingnut apologist. nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Yes, but he's also highlighting the numerous examples of RW crap

the spews then actually gets defended wholeheartedly by the echo machine. He keeps replaying Bill Bennett's remark about aborting black babies to cut the crime rate in half.

At first I thought he was going to be spending the day defending Imus, too. But what he's clumsily trying to do is make a point that it's what the Cons have been doing, time after time after time, and it doesn't get the attention and outrage that Imus is getting. He's asking why it not only doesn't get the attention, but why does it get defended when they do it. He also brought up that even after Bennett said he shouldn't have said it, he was still defended by the Cons media.

edit to add: He has Clarence Page on now. The problem I'm seeing with Schultz' "message" today is he's focusing too much on Imus and not enough on the others he's trying to bring to light in the 'conversation'.

[flyarm]

5. i was just listening and then shut my radio off..enough...

i have had enough of this bullshit...

as i said in another thread today..i was driving down the Garden State Parkway last week and there were electronic signs ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE PARKWAY..telling the Gals of Rutgers ..that we are proud of them..and then Wednesday ..Imus says the shit he said..i won't repeat it...

Those girl are from all over the country ..but they now play successfully for a New Jersey University team..so they are "our Jersey girls"..and no apology is acceptable to me..

It is my responsibility as a Jersey resident to protect those girls..

and as the Dixie Chicks song says..i am not ready to make nice...and i will never be ready to make nice..of any bigotry AND HATRED

I am sick of the hate..I am sick of the bigotry..i am sick of people thinking they have the right to say what they will and get away with it..

This was done by the right wing of our 9/11 family "Jersey Girls"...they were smeared and treated with the utmost hatred by the right wing ..on TV and radio...when they no longer had husbands to help defend themselves..they paid the highest price of hatred..IN THE LOSS OF THEIR HUSBANDS AND FATHERS OF THEIR CHILDREN..in every way ...and pure hatred by certain factions of americans .......


These young women at Rutgers were hurt by Imus..and he must pay for that..these girls have now been scarred for life..you may not see the scars./.but they are there now, and they will always carry those scars..in one way or another..and so will all minority people...

no excuse or apology is good enough..one can not put the toothpaste back in the tube...


from a Jersey gal...who is damn proud of those girls ...their successes and their failures.....and just damn proud of them ..and all our kids...

fly

[Bitwit1234]

8. How could that be an apology....

He is defending the fact that he was not drunk (like Mel Gibson) when he said it and not a comic on stage (like Kramer). Tell me one thing. Just because they talked out of turn, why does he have the right to insert them in a so called apology.

[lies and propaganda]

11. from one misogynist to another... nt

[Richard Steele]

18. Ed is a RWer who plays a role for $$$ on the radio. And badly, I might add.