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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:48 PM
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Poll question: What type of Health Care Reform do you think will be signed into law?
with the fight being escalated this week, and actual legislation is being debated finally, and now that more details are being provided about House and Senate proposed plans, what type of Health Care do you think will actually be signed into law?

just want an idea what DUers think may happen. is hope for a single payer plan fading, etc.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:50 PM
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1. What ever it is, I just KNOW it will be the worstest thing EVAH!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:58 PM
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3. You are so right! Whatever comes out of it
it will end up costing all of us double what some are paying now. And those yellow blue-dog Democrats will probably kill anything. Congress is not about to do anything that will benefit anyone. I am sick of all of them.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:33 PM
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7. Based on long track record it's very easy to predict which side will come out ahead
Corporate power, or the people?

Tough guess, there, eh?
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:42 PM
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8. But let's do it anyway. We said we wanted it.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:52 PM
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2. Expand Medicare and/or FEHBP to cover everybody.
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 12:54 PM by MercutioATC
Coverage is automatic. You have to opt out if desired...and could only do so with proof of alternate insurance.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:58 PM
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4. nothing. our spineless, subservient servants of the people will, once again,
screw us.
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:29 PM
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5. A weak, watered down public option....
That's if we're lucky.

Forget about single payer, it would take another 100 years for that to even be considered and it's the same with everything else in the US. We always seems to be behind the curve when it comes to things like that. Every other civilized country always gets it long before we do.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:31 PM
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6. here's my vote:
i vote we'll get a strong public option. to me, all the bitching and moaning from blue dogs, and even some rethugs, all seems like posturing.

when they pass a strong public option they can always go back and appease their constituency by claiming how "they fought so hard" but "the libruls were too fierce" yada yada yada.

i could be sorely mistaken, but i still have hope.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:54 PM
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10. If the polls are to be believed,
their constituents won't be impressed with them not supporting, at the very least, a STRONG public option that actually gives us an alternative to being screwed by the for profits. Indications are that even 50% of Republicans favor that as an option. Overall, at least half the population supports single payer and 73% support a real option.

Of course, I'm assuming that by "constiutents" you mean voters, not the Blue Dogs' corporate masters.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:02 PM
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13. yes, that was what i was referring to.
i think we'll be pleasantly surprised. i think this will be another milestone for us as a country.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 05:05 PM
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22. From what I've seen of the House bill
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 05:07 PM by dflprincess
a strong public option is "off the table". As they say. The Blue Dogs and the Republicans are goint to ignore the voters and make their owners happy. Hopefully, we can pay them pack in 2012.


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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:43 PM
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9. the one written by lobbyists who bribe congress lol nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:55 PM
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11. Something that will further limit care and increase ins. co. profits.
Another nail in America's coffin.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:59 PM
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12. you folks sure are a bummer today.
:(

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:03 PM
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14. Apparently you're new to DU. Welcome!
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 02:03 PM by BlooInBloo
:P
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:09 PM
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19. hardly, lol.
i just feel really optimistic.

wish others were too. i'm not giving up hope.

it has to work.

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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:07 PM
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17. True, but I have no confidence in Congress or the White House on this.
I'd far rather be optimistic.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:26 PM
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20. To feel confident something good will come out of this you have to ignore 30yrs of political history
:(
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:31 PM
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21. lol
yes, true, but that reminds me of the early primaries where the majority of folks here thought we would never see an african american president. Obama wasn't considered a "viable" candidate in the beginning either.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 05:08 PM
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23. As well as ignoring the bills that are being presented.
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 05:08 PM by dflprincess
And what we're seeing now hasn't been torn apart on the House floor yet. I doubt that will make it any better.
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PassingTimeHere Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:06 PM
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15. A bad one.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:06 PM
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16. Single payer is not going to happen yet. Not a chance in hell
It's what sane people want, but it's not realistic right now.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 05:11 PM
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24. Why isn't it realistic?
Because Congress is too corrupt to vote for it? The only reason it can't pass now is because Obama and Congress refuse to give a fair discussion.

It can't be the money because it would be cheaper than the crap they're coming up with and, if we can afford unnecessary wars, we can afford single payer.

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:08 PM
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18. Weak public option, relugation with major regulation-defeating loopholes, coverage exemptions, etc.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 05:12 PM
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25. Please define the difference between weak and strong public option.
I believe the house bill describes a strong public option.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 05:26 PM
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27. your vote, your opinion. what i think is a strong public option may not
mean the same as you or anyone else.

if you think it will be a strong option in the sense of what *you* think is a strong public option, then i would encourage you to vote for strong public option.

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 05:12 PM
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26. Other...
Mandated private insurance, with the "help" basically meaning you have to be all but homeless to get any help.

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