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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:35 PM
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Chris Parry (Vancouver Sun) responded to Freeper "bombshell" - see here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2290929/posts?... ;page=359#359

Post #365 (if it's still there). This is not a screen shot. I copied it to Word.




To: joinedafterattack
Uh, youve drawn a few odd conclusions here.

Yep, I absolutely posted at DailyKos.com before starting work at The Sun. Also posted here. Also posted at MLB.com and scout.com and... god, after fifteen years on the internet, I might even have visited a porn site or two.

I guess the big question here is and?

Has no Fox News personality ever posted here? Has no conservative columnist ever deigned you worthy to post a comment?

Your massive find is nothing more than a couple of breadcrumbs on the internet trail that point to a couple of websites I long ago sold off (Unreel Media is owned by another company these days, though if youre looking for editorial services, theyre amazing and worth a call).

Did I organize a Google Bomb of Bill OReilly a few years back when he called for an attack on San Francisco? Sure enough. Proud moment.

Do I think Carrie Prejean is a moron? I do. Absolutely.

Do I think Michael Moore was right? Yup. I think history proved it, though Ill agree he cheats to get the footage he wants (you can find plenty on dKos where Ive said as much).

Do I think its understandable Saddam tried to off Bush Sr? Sure. Bush told him that the US had no beef with Iraq muscling Kuwait over an oil dispute, so when the US suddenly called him evil for doing so, it would make sense theyd have a beef. Im not saying hed be right in going after Pappy, I just think the urge to do so would be understandable coming from him.

As far as girl on girl action is concerned, like I said, I dont own those sites anymore. Well, not all of them. Not that one, anyway. Last I heard it was going to be a techy review site, but I guess they opted for automated news aggregation of a given sort. I contacted the owner and he took the phrase off the site just now, so theres one for the little guy.

Yes, i have had contact with Markos Moulitsas. I emailed him once. Im guessing Jim (sorry for the name screw-up - will fix it when im next at my desk) has done same.

As for the loan sharking bit... well, thats just a terrible lie. Im a member of a website called Kiva.org, that lends money to third world people who want to start a business and cant get credit due to their circumstances. I would send $50 every few weeks to be loaned to an ox farmer in Zambia or a baker in Azerbaijan, and they would then pay the loan back as they could (interest-free) and the money could then be re-loaned elsewhere. If thats loan-sharking, then I guess Im a loan shark, but Im thinking any rational person would see it as a good thing to do. Sending aid is dumb, because youre just temporarily filling a hole. Offering microcredit builds an economy. Again, proud moment.

What motivated me to write the piece about FR?

Well, you see, Ive seen a lot of anonymous blog posts in my time that were nasty, vicious and beyond the pale. They happen on dKos too, as you know, but most of the time theyre isolated incidents and quickly stomped.

But this was an entire thread in which everyone - bar a couple - were pounding out racial, sexist and just plain boorish abuse at an 11-year-old girl. Thats not cool.

That it was suppressed and placed under review would make it a non-story, if it stayed suppressed, but when it came back, with a note mocking the person that complained, that comes across as site approval to me.

More comments of the same nature followed before someone finally put the kybosh on things - after it went public.

Say what you will about my political beliefs (Im a lefty, never hidden it), but thats a story.

For those who wondered, yes, I believe Lettermans joke was wrong. I also note he apologized and clarified his intent on national TV. So be it.

What it all comes down to is, if you properly moderate your forum (Gosh, I called it a blog? Consider me flayed) so that 11-year-old girls arent called whores, we can go back to just believing in opposite things and I can get back to writing about MMA, Jon and Kate Plus 8, and other such important things.

Much love, and feel free to drop me a line at cparry@vancouversun.com if you want to discuss things further. Im an open book, as should be any journalist, left, right or otherwise.



365 posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:19:10 PM by ChrisParry
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:37 PM
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1. Hey what better way to take the freepers on than to take it right to them
:kick:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:39 PM
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2. Hah!
I like his style.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Unfortunately it's far too logical and well thought out to permeate the brain barrier
of those knuckle-dragger inhabitants of Freepland.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:39 AM
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37. There may be a few there that managed to comprehend it.
A very small few, but still worth it just for the effort. :)
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:39 PM
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3. pwned. Pure and simple.
Very nice. :thumbsup:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:41 PM
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4. Answers the questions under his own name,
on a website where everyone else is anonymous (or thinks they are).

Excellent.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:42 PM
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5. Excellent. I wonder if he'll subsequently publish some of the "constructive criticism"
the freepers will no doubt email to him. :evilgrin:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. I do hope so. Freepers write the most entertaining emails.
Should be fun to read.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:47 PM
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9. I doubt that any of those chickenshit mouth breathers will email him with questions.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 12:48 PM by lamp_shade
So far, that's his only post. There are by now probably dozens of "Dear Mr. Parry" posts, but none that I've seen from JoinedAfterAttack.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:52 PM
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13. No, they won't email with questions....that's not their style...
Instead, they'll use their "anonymous" email accounts to hurl insults. Some will call him "gay." Others will quote violent passages from the Bible. Still others will write long, incoherent, poorly-spelled screeds threatening various sorts of mayhem, etc.

When Freepers email, they pull out all the stops.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:57 PM
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16. You can set your watch to it. I bet his inbox is currently full of the most vitriolic
hate speech one could imagine--and they did it all to themselves. Silly Freepers.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:01 PM
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18. Well, I hope he compiles them into something.
Rarely do identifiable Freeper emails show up in the media. In this case, the references in the emails will demonstrate that they're responding to his post there.

I've gotten some such emails. Uff da!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. I'd like to think they exhausted their vitriolic language supply
in responding to the peace sign shirt. OTOH, they never cease to amaze me.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
17. The hate mailbag is one of the things I miss about the old DU. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:07 PM
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22. Perhaps..
:evilgrin:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:46 PM
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7. Am I allowed to say "K&R!!" any more?
Too bad. :)
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:49 PM
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11. Thanks.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:48 PM
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10. LOL. Heads exploding in that Freeper thread. Well done, Mr. Parry!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:50 PM
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12. Even Kristinn weighs in:
I am the Kristinn you erroneously mentioned in your article. Yours was a sloppy cut and paste job, the sole point of which was to whack Free Republic. Congratulations. Mission accomplished.
I ignored the person who contacted me for comment about the thread in question because my instinct told me they were lying about their intent (that instinct was proven correct when the person posted about it at the Daily Kos). However, if you had reached out to me from the Vancouver Sun I would have spoken with you about it.

But you had an agenda as a reporter, and plowed ahead without doing some basic fact checking. We expect nothing less from the media these days. An honest reporter would have at least mentioned their ties to the Daily Kos and that this hit originated there, so readers could discern for themselves whether there is a political agenda behind your article or if you were really writing for the betterment of all mankind.


438 posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38:13 PM by kristinn
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:55 PM
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15. Ha! Fact-checking to match the correct freeper name to the correct racist rant?
Kristinn didn't write the post that called Malia "street trash". Kristinn actually wrote the post that called Malia "whore" and referred to Michelle as "mammy". IMACHRISTIAN is the one who called Malia "street trash".

Jeez, get your facts straight!!!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:02 PM
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25. I think Kristinn is the one who removed the thread and then reposted it..
along with an insult of the person who had complained that the thread was offensive.

Apparantly, Kristinn believes racist garbage attacking an 11 year old should only be removed from the site when someone with pure motives objects, otherwise it's just dandy.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:36 PM
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30. so a wingnut calling themselves "IMACHRISTIAN"...
...called an 11-year-old girl - a little girl - "street trash."

How completely vile and hideously un-Christian they are. Do they not realize that Jesus would be the first to shun them?

No. They don't.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:52 PM
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14. Chris Perry Responds:
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2009/7/12/3517/23956/1... ;showrate=1#c1037

Chris Parry here. (15+ / 0-)
Recommended by:TheNightfly, basquebob, Cory Bantic, Hannibal, Denny in Seattle, sable, Morgan Sandlin, pamelabrown, chikindolfin, kets, Bonsai66, teachingmathnow, cishart, RJP9999, RepTracker
Yes, astoundingly, I've been busted as someone who once owned some websites, has loaned money (interest-free) to third world entrepreneurs through Kiva, used to post diaries here before I got a job at a newspaper and thinks Michael Moore pretty much got it right re: Bush.

Not quite sure why the Freepers think that's ground for national outrage, but it's sure as heck driving traffic to my employers.

It's weird to find yourself at the top of both FR and dKos on a Sunday morning.

I will say this - for all the bashing of the mainstream media done in the blogiverse, it's funny how when you actually do some reporting on a blog, the offense level ratchets up to "insano blowout."

FreeRepublic allowed posters to call an 11-year-old daughter of the President a whore. They then took the comments down, then reposted them and mocked someone for complaining about them.

That ain't cool, period. I don't care what your political tilt is.


So this is gonna stop presses nationwide? :rofl:

Things are really hitting rock bottom in Freeperworld...and considering they started out in the muck, that's reaching depths that drilling equipment are hard-pressed to reach. :rofl:

I'm looking forward to David Shuster's reports tomorrow...sounds like he's gonna bore those assholes an extra three or four (if he can find the room...so many assholes have been bored into them over the past 2 years).

Stupid fools, they now will draw attention to their own racism with this "hugh outrag" :rofl:


Kudos to Hollywoodoz. And damn it...I'm proud to be a Kossack...and have been since the place began as well as here on DU.

:salute:

:popcorn:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:56 PM
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19. Yep - their comprehension skills are close to zero
no matter how many times Parry tries to set them straight.

And twist what he says:

To: mnehring

I think your comprehension skills may be lacking. That post was denigrating FEMA officials for NOT helping black people. Read the thread.

554 posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:05:10 AM by ChrisParry

To: ChrisParry
think your comprehension skills may be lacking. That post was denigrating FEMA officials for NOT helping black people. Read the thread.

I am taking it at face value. Rule number 1 of authorship, if your reader's don't get your point, don't blame the readers, check your own writing. If you have to constantly say 'what I really meant was...' you shouldn't blame other's reading comprehension. How about your calling for violence against Biden.. what did you really mean by that? Do you have an excuse for 'what you really meant' on all of your writing? Why not post your own words in your column just like you posted the newbie posts from the thread that started it and let your reader's decide.
576 posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:09:37 AM by mnehring


To: ChrisParry

Mr. Parry,

Its to your credit that youre remaining on this thread, engaging in dialogue of some sort with ideological opponents. So far, you have answered the (a) part of the first of my 2 questions, which Ill reproduce below. Would you care to answer the rest of (1) and also (2)?
_______________

1) Do you specifically deny that the any of racist comments under discussion were made by either:

a)yourself,

b)someone you were cooperating with, or

c)someone you had reason to know to be a plant intended to damage Freerepublic.com?

2) Have you ever made comments on the Internet, with the intention of spoofing and thereby damaging those with whom you disagree?

You forthright answers may help to resolve this controversy.

Thanks.

651 posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:27:58 AM by BCrago66



To: BCrago66

Already answered, but once again, yes on all fronts.

Other posters have already admitted they made those comments. And, not for nothing, but site moderators reinstated them after pulling them, so your allegation is really out of left (sorry right) field.

657 posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:29:31 AM by ChrisParry
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:10 PM
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23. He Should Have Left It At One Reply...
The fun here is watching these dead-enders chase their tails, bite themselves in the ass and think they've caught something :rofl:

Yes, the facts remain that cesspool has long been a safe haven for racists that is being exposed for what it is. The site long has lost relevancy with all but the flying monkeys...rarely cited even in right wing blogs.

But at least it's keeping them busy. Next week we put them in a circular room and tell them Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is in the corner :rofl:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:35 PM
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24. They don't play reasoning; they try to play gotcha!
Mostly by extracting a tiny thing they can blow up to mean something different - e.g. those stupid B U S H and C H E N E Y things that Parry made up. That has to be the most inane of all.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:52 PM
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31. "Next week we put them in a circular room and tell them Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 06:53 PM by GreenPartyVoter
in the corner"

:spray: :rofl:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:17 PM
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34. Special DUzy deserved there
:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:06 PM
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21. Wow! I know now that I like
Chris Parry.."Do I think Carrie Prejean is a moron? I do. Absolutely."

What a comeback to the whiny accusations to try and deflect from freeper asshole behavior.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:28 PM
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26. Has no Fox News personality ever posted here?
Yes...Tony Snow

Snow had them remove all his posts once he was selected as Dubya's press secretary.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:47 PM
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27. "You are pwned! If you are indeed Chris Parry"
Oh bloody jeezus! *facepalm*
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:02 PM
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28. Bombshell defused.
My dog, but the Freepers are a sorry lot.

Nice rejoinder, Mr. Parry!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:28 PM
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29. Hey Everybody...Looks Like We're ALL Stars Over in Freeperville...
Somone posted all of our responses... :rofl:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2290929/posts?... ;page=1162#1162

Now I need a shower...delousing...shower...several stiff drinks...shower...

So they think we've got our "panties in a wad"? Maybe from laughing so much at 'em. :rofl:
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:04 PM
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32. This one was posted over there too... twice. One of the posts was addressed to JimRob with
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:30 PM
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35. Dear Free Republic..
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:12 PM
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33. Think Gawker will report about THIS?
Or will they leave it at their original post, and not report on Parry's response?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:18 PM
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36. Nope. They only "updated" in the sense that they commented further on their original article.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:03 AM
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38. What is it about peace signs that sets them off anyway?
This benign little symbol seems so inflammatory. I think the racial hatred was unleashed by the peace sign. I hadn't seen this story. Pretty shameful.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:47 AM
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39. Peace signs don't involve killing or bombing. nt
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