Statehood for DC is wrong.

[imdjh]

The reason for it is wrong, perhaps the quest for it is wrong. It isn't about representation, that isn't the most important problem. The problem is that DC is an artificial capital city. The Congress controls the government, the police, the transportation, even the height limit and population density. If DC were a real capital city, an organic one, ie the most populous or most important existing city at the time of the formation of the government, then Congress and the White House wouldn't be able to get away with crap like The Family.

Yes, DC has had ONE major insurrection, but it's not generally thought of as productive, even if I think of it as operative.

I used to oppose statehood for DC but I am rethinking it. I can't help but think that as a state, the government would corrupt it as much as it does now. If it's returned to Maryland, I'm thinking it would actually have more power and independence.

If the capital were in NYC, Congress might rightly fear the population at a minimum making life difficult. As it is, it's hard to get people to shut down something like C Street when half the people work for the government and are afraid of losing their jobs or clearances.

DC needs to be liberated, not simply represented.

[elleng]

1. You live in Pasadena, in the state of Florida?

No WONDER you're so confused/ing.



:eyes:

[asthmaticeog]

3. ?

http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=south+pasadena+florida&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=FwNaSuihG8WktwfGioHeCg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1

:shrug:

[slampoet]

7. WOW!! More artifcial land than Dubai or Hong Kong in Pasadena.........

.....But i guess it's Okay for White people to live in Florida's fill in the ocean land done 70 years ago than it is for Black people to live on land from swamps that were drained 210 years ago.

Wow. This guy. Maybe imdjh needs to stop posting more than 28 times a day and look at their own town.

[imdjh]

11. It wasn't a reference to artificial land.

I was referring to the city being planned and built to be the capital.

But thanks for your utterly irrelevant take on the topic.

[slampoet]

19. So was Lansing, MI.

Only to a real 'Merican would city planning be a BAD thing.

[baldguy]

2. Hate to break it to you but every city is artificial - especially in America.

DC needs statehood - and home rule - precisely because it needs to have the right to fend off Congressional interference - like every other state & city in the country has.

[divideandconquer]

4. Can't have a majority black state can we?

More people than Wyoming

[imdjh]

6. How long do you think that would last?

Remember that DC has only been majority black for a fraction of its existence. Few of the houses in DC were first occupied by black people and white people have been returning in small and large waves in the last 30 years. More people would probably see a reason and an advantage to living in DC, especially an independent DC which would probably return the city to white majority even faster. However, in returning the city to Maryland, it's not quite the target for conquest which might take the form of political conquest rather than racial conquest. Moreover, in returning the city to Maryland, the city would not be as much at the mercy of Congress that even an independent state of DC would be.

[slampoet]

8. WOW. You really don't know beans about any trends in urban planning do you?

[TheWraith]

5. Your post makes absolutely no sense. nt

[slampoet]

9. Closet fr**ps rarely do. This isn't the first time with this person.

[LynneSin]

10. And this, my friends, is why we have the unrecommend feature

DC has a population about the same size as Alaska, Delaware, Wyoming and a few other small states. And yet these states are allowed a bigger voice in congress than DC?

WRONG!!

[imdjh]

15. It's not my best thought out or expressed position. I'll grant you.

The inspiration was that Congress designed a capital that cannot function properly as much else due to limitations on size and population. As I understand it, part of the inspiration for the idea of a federal city was Congress being locked in when it did something unpopular. Would statehood change that? At the moment, I think it's shortsighted. As a state, DC cannot exceed it's borders, a huge part of its functional population is not a part of the city and would not be a part of the state of DC. DC is surrounded by unincorporated "towns" which connect to it. As a city in Maryland, it could theoretically annex those unincorporated areas which are part of its functional population. It could "grow" without actually growing, but once in control of its own zoning, it could theoretically increase in density as well.

Mostly, I'm just warped out of shape by this whole "Family" thing, and thinking that so many of the people in DC are discouraged from direct action against the government because they are ruled by it and beholden to it.

[LynneSin]

16. The city of DC has no control over their own laws

They had a ban on carry permits for guns, mainly to help suppress the crime in the city. Who overturned that law? Conservatives NOT from DC but elected by the other 50 states. Why should some conservative from Texas make gun laws for DC? Let DC make their own laws - cities have way different needs than urban areas or even the suburbs.

The whole concept of the Revolutionary War was that Americans were pissed at paying taxes to England but having no represenation. How does that different from what we have in Washington DC today. The ONLY reason DC can't get representation is that republicans do NOT want to give more power to the democrats (the district is overwhelmingly liberal). But there was a solution that would give the DC representative voting rights in DC and add another house seat to Utah. Why can't we at least do that?

[imdjh]

17. DC's gun law would be challenged even if it were a state.

All infringement laws are going to be challenged sooner or later. The nuts and bolts of the DC case may have been unique to the status of the city, but IMO it didn't have the right to such a law regardless of its status.

[LynneSin]

18. Thing is, it still should be DC that decides and not outsiders living there part-time

[Stinky The Clown]

12. Taxation Without Representation

It has a meaning as true for DC today as for our forefathers back then.

Or is it the idea of a majority black state with a population in excess of several of the red states?

[DarthDem]

13. Ridiculous Post

If the district is "returned to Maryland," it would have more power and influence? Dead wrong.

[Warren Stupidity]

14. ?