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RIP: Critical Thought on DU
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 03:11 PM by FLAprogressive
Any post that does not 'toe the line' so to speak will be immediately "unrecommended" by the operatives.....now the greatest page will be filled with cheerleader threads, just how the All Star Cheerleaders want it.

I guess some people are just sick of the truth and just want to see sunshine, puppies, and rainbows.....my my my how DU has changed.

"unrec" this all you want.
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   Ah, Thought, we hardly knew ye.  FiveGoodMen   Jul-09-09 03:12 PM   #1 
   Huh?  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Jul-09-09 03:13 PM   #2 
   Hopefully you will be wrong  el_bryanto   Jul-09-09 03:13 PM   #3 
   I usually ignore the Rec voting anyway  Mari333   Jul-09-09 03:14 PM   #4 
   +1  Just Saying   Jul-09-09 03:18 PM   #16 
   i like sunshine puppies and rainbows don't you?  county worker   Jul-09-09 03:14 PM   #5 
   I am thinking critical thoughts right now  hfojvt   Jul-09-09 03:14 PM   #6 
   The "Greatest Page" will be filled with threads that represent the majority of DU opinion  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:14 PM   #7 
   Silence the minority. Now that's Democracy! (TM)  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 03:16 PM   #10 
   In what way are you "silenced"? We're all reading your thread.....  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:18 PM   #17 
   No, not "silence"--simply "refuse to elect"--that IS how democracy works.  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:32 PM   #110 
      Ah! I've been waiting to see one of your posts!  Bluenorthwest   Jul-09-09 04:48 PM   #126 
         Wow, that was profoundly childish of you. Knock yourself out, though.  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:58 PM   #127 
   Your example is non-sensical  el_bryanto   Jul-09-09 03:21 PM   #23 
   In case of emergency break glass and supplant "opinion" with 'mindset', I've found that helpful  bridgit   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   # 
   Sure, it'll be like the ongoing bulletin board for cheerleader tryouts  bridgit   Jul-09-09 03:22 PM   #27 
   Only if the majority of DUers are cheerleaders.... the reverse happens if the majority of DUers are  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   #37 
   I'd be willing to bet you dollars to donuts that there's a percentile of threads...  bridgit   Jul-09-09 03:37 PM   #58 
   Did you ever look at the "Greatest Page" in the past couple months?  Zynx   Jul-09-09 04:19 PM   #100 
      I'm say'n, friend, you know what *I'm* say'n  bridgit   Jul-10-09 01:30 AM   #139 
   Hear, hear!!! nt  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:28 PM   #106 
   Do you think that expressing the view of mainstream DU  noamnety   Jul-09-09 05:22 PM   #128 
   I never even look at the Greatest Page. It's really not the end all and be all for everyone. n/t  gkhouston   Jul-09-09 03:15 PM   #8 
   Glad I'm not the only one.  Tansy_Gold   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   #35 
   Same here. nt  City Lights   Jul-09-09 03:31 PM   #53 
   One thing that will happen...  niceypoo   Jul-09-09 03:15 PM   #9 
   As long as proponent groups outnumber opposing ones, it will work...  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:17 PM   #14 
   How is your "critical thought" thread being mis-treated?  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:16 PM   #11 
   For years this is something that many people have asked for, and finally we got it  WI_DEM   Jul-09-09 03:17 PM   #12 
   Some of you all take this "chat room" waaaay toooo serious.  MNDemNY   Jul-09-09 03:17 PM   #13 
   Yep. nt  sufrommich   Jul-09-09 03:19 PM   #19 
   Must be nice not to have any "real" worries.  MNDemNY   Jul-09-09 03:20 PM   # 
      I have a family member who creates drama to replace  sufrommich   Jul-09-09 03:22 PM   #28 
         Do people really think...  MNDemNY   Jul-09-09 03:26 PM   #41 
            How do I know you're not just a very creative  sufrommich   Jul-09-09 03:30 PM   #52 
               You caught me!!  MNDemNY   Jul-09-09 03:31 PM   #54 
   No, but I take adverbs seriously.  Ignis   Jul-10-09 01:00 PM   #160 
   It's called the DU virus  Hutzpa   Jul-10-09 01:14 PM   #163 
   OK.  Maru Kitteh   Jul-09-09 03:18 PM   # 
   But hyperbole is alive and well, I see.  reflection   Jul-09-09 03:18 PM   #15 
   But the OP is not on the Greatest Page! Therefore he's being SILENCED!  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:19 PM   #20 
   Mindless pep rallies are so boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. nt  polichick   Jul-09-09 03:18 PM   #18 
   Yes a discussion board that tests ideas by seeing if people support it  grantcart   Jul-09-09 03:19 PM   #21 
   Yep. We're all Stepford Wives now. Call it the Stepford Rule.  BuyingThyme   Jul-09-09 03:20 PM   #22 
   Okay, calling us a bunch of Stepford Wives sounds like  gkhouston   Jul-09-09 03:23 PM   #32 
   Stepford Drones?  BuyingThyme   Jul-09-09 03:24 PM   #33 
      snort. Better, I suppose. Now I'm thinking of Charlie Brown's teacher. n/t  gkhouston   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   #40 
   And what happens if the majority of DUers DISapprove of Obama?  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:27 PM   #46 
   The only people this pisses off are the people who respect minority views & out-of-the box thinking.  BuyingThyme   Jul-09-09 03:29 PM   #50 
   the DLCers get what they want yet again. The left silenced.  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 03:38 PM   #61 
      You're sure making a lot of posts for someone who's been "silenced"  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:44 PM   #69 
   Unrecommend would quietly disappear.  Vidar   Jul-09-09 04:32 PM   #109 
   Before we could only show approval.  rucky   Jul-09-09 05:27 PM   #130 
      How 'bout an Un-Greatest Threads Forum?  BuyingThyme   Jul-09-09 08:41 PM   #133 
   "the truth" as defined by whoever the poster is.  Cant trust em   Jul-09-09 03:21 PM   #24 
   !  Kaleko   Jul-09-09 03:28 PM   #47 
   +1  hileeopnyn8d   Jul-09-09 03:34 PM   #57 
   yeah -- it makes every thread here the equivalent of an online poll  villager   Jul-09-09 03:21 PM   #25 
   I'm still trying to figure out how this will bring us together. n/t  Mojambo   Jul-09-09 03:23 PM   #30 
   I have placed an experimental "Sunshine, Puppy Dog, and Rainbow Thread" on GD...  Bicoastal   Jul-09-09 03:21 PM   #26 
   I think there are as many bashers as there are cheerleaders  Still Sensible   Jul-09-09 03:22 PM   #29 
   I don't think even constructive criticism posts will survive  Mojambo   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   #38 
      they will not....because the cheerleaders consider any criticism "bashing".  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 03:26 PM   #44 
   Oh my god ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-09-09 03:23 PM   #31 
   That's all the Greatest Page is now. Cheerleader threads, bashing threads...  jobycom   Jul-09-09 03:24 PM   #34 
   the great thing about a broad brush attack is that nobody knows who is being singled out  CreekDog   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   #36 
   Yep, the DLCers & DINOS are having a field day with it.  earth mom   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   #39 
   Only if the "DLCers and DINOS" represent a majority of DUers  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:29 PM   #49 
      DLCers & DINOS have just been given full reign to chase the rest of us lefties out of dodge.  earth mom   Jul-09-09 03:37 PM   #59 
         If you think DLCers and DINOS have taken "full reign" of DU, you haven't been reading this place  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:38 PM   #62 
         You obviously haven't been paying attention if you don't see the DLC & DINOS in action around here.  earth mom   Jul-09-09 03:47 PM   #76 
            you know what they say: "a skunk can't smell its own stink"  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 03:48 PM   #79 
               ding  fascisthunter   Jul-10-09 06:29 PM   #178 
         How?  RoyGBiv   Jul-09-09 03:40 PM   #64 
            They can't answer it.... it's over-the-top poutrage  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:43 PM   #68 
            I did answer it but you obviously love having the opportunity to stir shit up.  earth mom   Jul-09-09 03:46 PM   #72 
            Recommending a thread is a way for peoples voices to be heard.  earth mom   Jul-09-09 03:45 PM   #70 
            By definition, they CAN'T erase what a MAJORITY thinks  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:48 PM   #78 
            They can if they have enough of a cabal to do their dirty work.  earth mom   Jul-09-09 03:57 PM   #87 
               Would they have been able to get a pro-Dixie Chicks thread off the greatest page of ?  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 04:14 PM   #93 
            Why do you have to explain it?  RoyGBiv   Jul-09-09 04:08 PM   #89 
            It doesn't, but that's why you're being ignored. You're making sense, see? nt  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:38 PM   #114 
   I tried to unrecommend your post, and it did not go negative.  TWiley   Jul-09-09 03:26 PM   #42 
   It will work itself out  LaurenG   Jul-09-09 03:26 PM   #43 
   Irony is when people whining about "critical thought" can't stand criticism.  BlooInBloo   Jul-09-09 03:26 PM   #45 
   I can't stand that there will no longer be a diversity of viewpoint  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 03:28 PM   #48 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-09 03:30 PM   #51 
   hahahah! Please stop! Allowing BOTH sides to vote is the very definition of diversity...  BlooInBloo   Jul-09-09 03:32 PM   #55 
      The only people upset with this are those that tend to be CONTRARIAN to most DUers  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:37 PM   #60 
         That's the gripe, in a nutshell! Well done! Very succinctly put! nt  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:42 PM   #117 
         That's the gripe, in a nutshell! Well done! Very succinctly put! nt  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:42 PM   #118 
   Fucking word dude that's it!  bridgit   Jul-09-09 03:40 PM   #63 
   If I could recommend a single post, I'd "rec" yours! +1!!!! nt  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:40 PM   #116 
   ROFL  snooper2   Jul-09-09 03:34 PM   #56 
   I'm curious to see, after 24 hours,  noamnety   Jul-09-09 03:42 PM   #65 
   Can we also have a "Shittiest Page"? n/t  Common Sense Party   Jul-09-09 03:42 PM   #66 
   Optimism sucks, doesn't it?  Rob Gregory Browne   Jul-09-09 03:42 PM   #67 
   I See It The Other Way Around  otohara   Jul-09-09 03:45 PM   #71 
   so what you're saying is you're tired of objectivity from the left  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 03:47 PM   #75 
      Hmmm....  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 03:50 PM   #82 
      No But ...  otohara   Jul-09-09 04:10 PM   #90 
      I see very little objectivity on these forums  Rob Gregory Browne   Jul-09-09 05:29 PM   #131 
   Simple solution is to get rid of both the recommend and unrecommend options.  WI_DEM   Jul-09-09 03:46 PM   #73 
   Good idea - what kind of reader chooses threads because of recs anyway?? nt  polichick   Jul-09-09 03:50 PM   #84 
   I support this idea. n/t  Mojambo   Jul-09-09 04:29 PM   #107 
   "Unrecommending" something is not the same as silencing the thought, so...  Bonobo   Jul-09-09 03:47 PM   #74 
   Are you seriuos?! Unrecommending IS silencing dissent! WTF!  earth mom   Jul-09-09 03:50 PM   #85 
      It's like the free speech pens at national conventions  noamnety   Jul-09-09 03:52 PM   #86 
      Really? it's just like that, huh?  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 04:16 PM   #96 
         strawman. (nt)  noamnety   Jul-09-09 04:26 PM   #103 
            Actually, your post about "free speech pens" represents a strawman argument...  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 04:31 PM   #108 
      How come I can still see your messages then?  anigbrowl   Jul-10-09 02:02 AM   #145 
   So you can't think without a cheerleading squad to back you up?  gratuitous   Jul-09-09 03:48 PM   #77 
   That the unrec function was even deemed necessary is interesting.  timeforpeace   Jul-09-09 03:49 PM   #80 
   obviously the chris crocker cheerleaders were tired of seeing anything remotely objective  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 03:50 PM   #83 
      If by "objective" you mean "small # of ppl agree and nobody disagreeing can stop it"...  BlooInBloo   Jul-09-09 04:06 PM   #88 
   K & unR!  mullard12ax7   Jul-09-09 03:49 PM   #81 
   Am I the only one who never looks at the front page? I click on stories I want to read  Jennicut   Jul-09-09 04:12 PM   #91 
   Latest is my DU home page. I rarely if ever visit the Greatest page.  BlooInBloo   Jul-09-09 04:13 PM   #92 
   Yeah, I am bookmarked to GD: Prez  Jennicut   Jul-09-09 04:16 PM   #95 
   I don't either. I've got DU bookmarked to go  sufrommich   Jul-09-09 04:14 PM   #94 
   same here  fishwax   Jul-10-09 01:52 AM   #144 
   K&U  LAGC   Jul-09-09 04:16 PM   #97 
   lol I knew the GD:P bots who so desperately wanted and needed this feature would swoop in  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 04:17 PM   #98 
   I suppose that's why all the posts prior to this with the most recommends were knee-jerk  Zynx   Jul-09-09 04:17 PM   #99 
   hyperbole is great, isn't it?  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 04:19 PM   #101 
      LOL... says the OP who started this pure-hyperbole thread  scheming daemons   Jul-09-09 04:20 PM   #102 
   Paranoia strikes deep......  MADem   Jul-09-09 04:26 PM   #104 
   I love this thread ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-09-09 04:27 PM   #105 
   I'm going to shed a tear like Hillary.  Life Long Dem   Jul-09-09 04:34 PM   #111 
   It's ironic timing for those thinking that things had gotten too negative ..........................  omega minimo   Jul-09-09 04:34 PM   #112 
   This thread reminds me of "Pete Hoekstra is a Meme"  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-09-09 04:36 PM   #113 
   If I could I would recommend your post.  ohheckyeah   Jul-09-09 04:45 PM   #121 
   This was more true with the "recommend" only feature.  izzybeans   Jul-09-09 04:39 PM   #115 
   That's the way I'm looking at it.  spoony   Jul-09-09 04:45 PM   #122 
   Recommended...  Deja Q   Jul-09-09 04:43 PM   #119 
   I said this in jest in another thread, but it's based in truth and honesty...  Amerigo Vespucci   Jul-09-09 04:44 PM   #120 
   "operatives"?. . just how many of those do you think there are?  annabanana   Jul-09-09 04:46 PM   #123 
   WAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! I Can No Longer Post My Inflammatory Crap And Get All My Troll Friends To Rec It Up  Beetwasher   Jul-09-09 04:46 PM   #124 
   What does the cheerleader threads being on  ohheckyeah   Jul-09-09 04:47 PM   #125 
   ah, yes - the "operatives"  rucky   Jul-09-09 05:26 PM   #129 
   So conspiracy theories, Obama-bashing, and Marxist garbage is "Critical Thought"?  Odin2005   Jul-09-09 06:02 PM   #132 
   Dupe...again.  Bobbie Jo   Jul-09-09 09:01 PM   #134 
   Oh, did you want us to unrecommend this?  Quantess   Jul-09-09 09:03 PM   #135 
   I worry it's going to be the primaries all over again  LisaM   Jul-09-09 09:05 PM   #136 
   Who is going to be driven off because their post didn't make the Greatest Page?  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-09-09 09:14 PM   #138 
      It's not about the greatest page, which I pay no attention to anyway  LisaM   Jul-10-09 12:46 PM   #155 
   If you wish to use critical thought,  ZombieHorde   Jul-09-09 09:13 PM   #137 
   Maybe the anti-unrecommend crowd should start using their critical thought  BurtWorm   Jul-10-09 01:34 AM   #140 
   My, but aren't you dramatical?  SeattleGirl   Jul-10-09 01:35 AM   #141 
   RIP: Threads that can escape the infamy of their content.  TexasObserver   Jul-10-09 01:37 AM   #142 
   Operatives? You think people are sitting in smokey rooms conspiring to urec threads?  SpartanDem   Jul-10-09 01:41 AM   #143 
   That's what happens after you get to 1000 posts.  anigbrowl   Jul-10-09 02:03 AM   #146 
   I should have disclosed long ago that I'm on the payroll of Big Unrecommend.  BurtWorm   Jul-10-09 02:05 AM   #147 
   Are you guys hiring?  SpartanDem   Jul-10-09 02:13 AM   #151 
   I don't recommend applying.  BurtWorm   Jul-10-09 02:16 AM   #153 
      So you.........*un*recommend applying?  bridgit   Jul-10-09 02:46 PM   #170 
   LOL.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-10-09 12:52 PM   #158 
   Note to self: SpartanDem knows too much.  BlooInBloo   Jul-10-09 02:10 AM   #149 
   What about us non-smoking operatives? Whats a clean-living operative to do?  Maru Kitteh   Jul-10-09 02:15 AM   #152 
   The trick is to avoid going to the greatest page altogether  Blue_In_AK   Jul-10-09 02:07 AM   #148 
   rarely used rec  ibegurpard   Jul-10-09 02:11 AM   #150 
   I'm sorry...  Spider Jerusalem   Jul-10-09 02:35 AM   #154 
   I pay zero attention to the greatest page  LisaM   Jul-10-09 12:51 PM   #157 
   A lot of people on this board need new hobbies  WilliamPitt   Jul-10-09 12:47 PM   #156 
   I would recommend a crash course in logic. (nt)  redqueen   Jul-10-09 01:17 PM   #165 
      How about one on humility. Or elitism. nt  Jakes Progress   Jul-10-09 03:08 PM   #171 
         No, I understand both of those just fine.  redqueen   Jul-10-09 03:13 PM   #172 
            If you understand  Jakes Progress   Jul-10-09 05:47 PM   #175 
               As you have been practicing logic incorrectly.  redqueen   Jul-10-09 06:23 PM   #177 
                  Cryptic. Symbol.  Jakes Progress   Jul-10-09 10:49 PM   #188 
   "The operatives?" What is this? Get Smart?  Boomerang Diddle   Jul-10-09 12:58 PM   #159 
   The bland, it hurts. No. Wait a minute.  Jakes Progress   Jul-10-09 01:08 PM   #161 
   Right.....Sad that now not only you and those who agree with you can control Greatest Page?  mamaleah   Jul-10-09 01:09 PM   #162 
   "the operatives"  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-10-09 01:16 PM   #164 
   Yes... Rove, the DLC, etc. etc. and so on and so on.  redqueen   Jul-10-09 01:20 PM   #166 
      can i borrow a roffle?  dionysus   Jul-10-09 01:24 PM   #168 
   someday you will realize that you're in the < 1% of DUers that are perpetually pissed.  dionysus   Jul-10-09 01:22 PM   #167 
   interesting, hows that?  fascisthunter   Jul-10-09 06:35 PM   #179 
   That number may be a bit low. Possibly 4%, maybe?  jazzjunkysue   Jul-10-09 07:43 PM   #187 
   I honestly cannot believe how melodramatic and hyperbolic this "debate" has become.  myrna minx   Jul-10-09 01:30 PM   #169 
   Yep.  BlooInBloo   Jul-10-09 06:37 PM   #180 
   Who cares about the greatest page anyway? We're all here  Flying Dream Blues   Jul-10-09 03:16 PM   #173 
   That's right. Who cares about keeping others OFF the Greatest Page and why?  omega minimo   Jul-10-09 06:38 PM   #181 
   How do I get to be a paid operative?  Crunchy Frog   Jul-10-09 03:42 PM   #174 
   I have never even LOOKED at the greatest page  CBGLuthier   Jul-10-09 05:59 PM   #176 
   The non contrarians will bore themselves soon with this new toy--  summerbreeze   Jul-10-09 06:42 PM   #182 
   "non contrarians"... heh, how novel.  redqueen   Jul-10-09 07:01 PM   #183 
   185 responses and this thread is not on the Greatest Page.  Laelth   Jul-10-09 07:13 PM   #184 
      I believe that trend will be an increasing dynamic for the minority on whatever the issue or  Uncle Joe   Jul-10-09 07:21 PM   #185 
      How does that make sense?  redqueen   Jul-10-09 07:24 PM   #186 
 
FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:12 PM
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1. Ah, Thought, we hardly knew ye.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:13 PM
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2. Huh?
I swear sometimes this board makes me crazy. What are you talking about?
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el_bryanto Donating Member (967 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:13 PM
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3. Hopefully you will be wrong
But it's possible you are right.

Of course you can always try and get your own operatives and use them to unrecommend a post. Then maybe nobody will make it on the greatest page.

Bryant
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:14 PM
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4. I usually ignore the Rec voting anyway
if it looks interesting, I click on it. it wont change me from being a critical thinker.
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Just Saying (133 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:18 PM
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16. +1
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:14 PM
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5. i like sunshine puppies and rainbows don't you?
I don't think we all need to be down in the shit all the time. I believe in the law of attraction. What you are constantly thinking you draw to your life.

I'll think sunshine, puppies and rainbows and you think shit all day. Don't be surprised if all you see in you life is shit!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:14 PM
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6. I am thinking critical thoughts right now
about this OP.

Somebody alert the mods, quick!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:14 PM
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7. The "Greatest Page" will be filled with threads that represent the majority of DU opinion

Instead of how it previously only represented those who shouted the loudest.



If you're "outside of the mainstream" of DU opinion, why do you think you should be on the greatest page?


If a freeper disruptor posts a pro-Palin thread, and five other freeper disruptors recommend it... why should it get on the Greatest Page?
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:16 PM
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10. Silence the minority. Now that's Democracy! (TM)
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:18 PM
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17. In what way are you "silenced"? We're all reading your thread.....

It hasn't been locked.


It's at the top of the GD section.



Are you going to go all drama-queen and claim that NOT-BEING-ON-THE-GREATEST-PAGE = SILENCED?



:eyes:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:32 PM
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110. No, not "silence"--simply "refuse to elect"--that IS how democracy works.
We don't give the clowns with the fewest votes the job--when the system works right, anyway.

Your thread won't get the spot on the "greatest" page, if most of us don't think it's all that great.

Five people with a halfassed viewpoint won't purport to represent the vast majority here.

You can continue to blab away all you want--you simply won't be able to do it from center stage unless you get the audience to applaud your efforts.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:48 PM
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126. Ah! I've been waiting to see one of your posts!
So I can click ignore. Yippeeeeee! Click.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:58 PM
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127. Wow, that was profoundly childish of you. Knock yourself out, though.
You clearly don't have much in the way of a life, and you're flaunting that paucity for all to see!

Glad I was able to give you a pathetic little moment of joy, though!

:rofl:
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el_bryanto Donating Member (967 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:21 PM
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23. Your example is non-sensical
Rather if you are more moderate than the mainstream DU you will be accused of being a freeper and recommended down; or if you are more liberal /leftist than the mainstream. That is the concern.

Most "freepers" aren't necessarily, and the ones that are usually get caught pretty quick.

Bryant
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM
Original message
In case of emergency break glass and supplant "opinion" with 'mindset', I've found that helpful
:kick:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:22 PM
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27. Sure, it'll be like the ongoing bulletin board for cheerleader tryouts
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM
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37. Only if the majority of DUers are cheerleaders.... the reverse happens if the majority of DUers are
bashers.


The "Greatest Page" will pretty accurately reflect DUers current opinions of Obama.


If the current approval of him on DU is under 50%, then the BASHING threads will be the ones that make the Greatest Page.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:37 PM
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58. I'd be willing to bet you dollars to donuts that there's a percentile of threads...
that are rec'd with little more effort than that the rec'er appreciates the OP on a bumper-sticker-level as in, "That's a cool bumper-sticker" or a level that doesn't even require them to have read, or per se agree with the post; maybe just maybe because they like them or maybe just because they *want* to be liked by either them or their associates enter via 'unrecommend' the ability to drive down the stock like MadMoneyKramer on other products by 'cheer-leading up' products one is more comfortable with = it's The Pepsi Challenge = Coke or Pepsi = "No Coke!! Pepsi!" and maybe that's fine...

I don't drink Pepsi myself, though I will drink Dr. Pepper in a world where it only takes 5 rec's to get Pepsi on the Greatest Page :kick:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:19 PM
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100. Did you ever look at the "Greatest Page" in the past couple months?
70% of the posts were knee-jerk, poorly-written, barely-reasoned "criticism" of Obama that had often very little basis in fact and policy.

For example, all the people who scream about Obama giving tax cuts to the rich are just damned liars. There have been no such cuts. However, they get a lot of recommends.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-10-09 01:30 AM
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139. I'm say'n, friend, you know what *I'm* say'n
:kick:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:28 PM
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106. Hear, hear!!! nt
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noamnety (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 05:22 PM
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128. Do you think that expressing the view of mainstream DU
is what makes a thread great?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:15 PM
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8. I never even look at the Greatest Page. It's really not the end all and be all for everyone. n/t
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM
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35. Glad I'm not the only one.
Of course, it takes time and effort to actually look at the forum front pages, read through the subject lines, figure out which ones might be interesting and which ones are crap (most of 'em). But I guess laziness has infiltrated DU and anything that presents a CHALLENGE has to be shot down or derided or attacked.

Tansy Gold, who will stick with just skipping the threads she's not interested in
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:31 PM
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53. Same here. nt
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niceypoo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:15 PM
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9. One thing that will happen...
...is that opposing groups will organise to unrecommend each others threads.

This feature wont last long
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:17 PM
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14. As long as proponent groups outnumber opposing ones, it will work...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:16 PM
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11. How is your "critical thought" thread being mis-treated?

Is nobody reading it?

Has it been locked?

Have you been tombstoned?



Thought not.


"But wait! My five disruptor friends can't send me to the Greatest Page anymore!"
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:17 PM
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12. For years this is something that many people have asked for, and finally we got it
I think that most people will use it wisely.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:17 PM
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13. Some of you all take this "chat room" waaaay toooo serious.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:19 PM
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19. Yep. nt
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:20 PM
Original message
Must be nice not to have any "real" worries.
Don't you think?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:22 PM
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28. I have a family member who creates drama to replace
the lack of real life drama,I imagine it's the same thing.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:26 PM
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41. Do people really think...
this matters beyond the few thousand posters, who are for the most part, on the same side? Hell, it is a source of entertainment , for me, kinda like an R rated, interactive MSNBC.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:30 PM
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52. How do I know you're not just a very creative
"operative" trying to cover as a casual DU poster? Huh? Huh? :evilgrin:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:31 PM
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54. You caught me!!
;)
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-10-09 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #13
160. No, but I take adverbs seriously.
-ly
-ly
-ly

Practice! :)
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-10-09 01:14 PM
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163. It's called the DU virus
its infectious, analytical, and can make people tripped over themselves.


:evilgrin:
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:18 PM
Original message
OK.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:18 PM
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15. But hyperbole is alive and well, I see.
:eyes:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:19 PM
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20. But the OP is not on the Greatest Page! Therefore he's being SILENCED!

:eyes:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:18 PM
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18. Mindless pep rallies are so boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. nt
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 03:21 PM by polichick
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:19 PM
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21. Yes a discussion board that tests ideas by seeing if people support it


Now if you have a particular viewpoint that needs a more protective umbrella where members can meet and exchange their views without the scruitiny of harassment of the entire community you could start a sub group especially for promoting that particular view point as dozens and dozens of other DUers have.
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:20 PM
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22. Yep. We're all Stepford Wives now. Call it the Stepford Rule.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:23 PM
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32. Okay, calling us a bunch of Stepford Wives sounds like
we've having a massive lesbian orgy in here. You really shouldn't do that. It will get the freeper trolls all hot and bothered.
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:24 PM
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33. Stepford Drones?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM
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40. snort. Better, I suppose. Now I'm thinking of Charlie Brown's teacher. n/t
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:27 PM
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46. And what happens if the majority of DUers DISapprove of Obama?
Then the only threads that make it to the Greatest Page will be from the "bashers".


See how it works? The greatest page will accurately reflect the majority of opinion on DU, whatever it is at the moment.



This should only piss you off if you're outside of DU mainstream. And that "mainstream" is constantly shifting.


If Obama's popularity falls, only bashing threads will make it to the Greatest Page.

...and that will make you very happy, I guess.
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:29 PM
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50. The only people this pisses off are the people who respect minority views & out-of-the box thinking.
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:38 PM
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61. the DLCers get what they want yet again. The left silenced.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:44 PM
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69. You're sure making a lot of posts for someone who's been "silenced"
..
:eyes:
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Vidar (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:32 PM
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109. Unrecommend would quietly disappear.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 05:27 PM
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130. Before we could only show approval.
Now we can show disapproval, too.

I don't see how that kills critical thinking. Maybe even the opposite, if the feature isn't abused.
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 08:41 PM
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133. How 'bout an Un-Greatest Threads Forum?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:21 PM
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24. "the truth" as defined by whoever the poster is.
It's the self aggrandizement on DU, not the chearleading that makes me want to gag.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:28 PM
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47. !
:thumbsup:
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hileeopnyn8d (849 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:34 PM
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57. +1
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:21 PM
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25. yeah -- it makes every thread here the equivalent of an online poll
...with partisans on each side trying to "outvote" each other...
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:23 PM
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30. I'm still trying to figure out how this will bring us together. n/t
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:21 PM
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26. I have placed an experimental "Sunshine, Puppy Dog, and Rainbow Thread" on GD...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

...let's see if your theory is correct.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:22 PM
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29. I think there are as many bashers as there are cheerleaders
on the board. So it will probably balance out in the end. In fairness, I would expect the greatest page of a democratic site to feature plenty of support for a democratic administration, but at the same time I also expect a healthy amount of constructive criticism as well as outright "the President is wrong" posts when the situation warrants.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM
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38. I don't think even constructive criticism posts will survive
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM by Mojambo
The problem is that there's a pretty wide gulf between what varying parties consider "constructive criticism"
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:26 PM
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44. they will not....because the cheerleaders consider any criticism "bashing".
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:23 PM
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31. Oh my god ...
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM by RoyGBiv
What exactly do you think is going to happen? Your thread gets unrecommended and suddenly the black helicopters descend on your house, taking you off to Room 101?

To what level has the whine factor gone for some to believe being able to express a displeasure with a thread is somehow an erasure of critical thought?

You know what this does? It affects the listing of topics on the Greatest Page.

In what way does the fact that some threads won't be showing up on the Greatest Page now stifle critical thought? Be specific please.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:24 PM
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34. That's all the Greatest Page is now. Cheerleader threads, bashing threads...
Who cares? Just go to your favorite forums and discuss what you think is important. Who's Who polls are for high schoolers, anyway.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM
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36. the great thing about a broad brush attack is that nobody knows who is being singled out
:eyes:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:25 PM
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39. Yep, the DLCers & DINOS are having a field day with it.
But turnabout is fairplay and GD-P is chock full of bullshit if you catch my drift. :evilgrin:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:29 PM
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49. Only if the "DLCers and DINOS" represent a majority of DUers
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:37 PM
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59. DLCers & DINOS have just been given full reign to chase the rest of us lefties out of dodge.
But no worries for you, right? :eyes:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:38 PM
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62. If you think DLCers and DINOS have taken "full reign" of DU, you haven't been reading this place
...lately.


The DLC sucks. And very few here represent their viewpoint.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:47 PM
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76. You obviously haven't been paying attention if you don't see the DLC & DINOS in action around here.
:eyes:
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:48 PM
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79. you know what they say: "a skunk can't smell its own stink"
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-10-09 06:29 PM
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178. ding
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 03:40 PM
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64. How?

How does an "unrecommend" feature do one thing to "chase" a person out?

Please be specific. No one seems able to answer this.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:43 PM
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68. They can't answer it.... it's over-the-top poutrage
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:46 PM
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72. I did answer it but you obviously love having the opportunity to stir shit up.
:puke:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:45 PM
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70. Recommending a thread is a way for peoples voices to be heard.
Now all sorts of organized trolls, cheerleaders, dinos, dlcers and freepers can come over here and erase what the MAJORITY thinks and trash DU all to hell.

Why do I have to explain this to you?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:48 PM
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78. By definition, they CAN'T erase what a MAJORITY thinks

And it is curious that you lump Obama "cheerleaders" with "freepers".... when in fact, they couldn't be more opposite on the posting spectrum.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:57 PM
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87. They can if they have enough of a cabal to do their dirty work.
Look what freepers did to the Dixie Chicks.


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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:14 PM
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93. Would they have been able to get a pro-Dixie Chicks thread off the greatest page of ?

doubtful
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 04:08 PM
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89. Why do you have to explain it?

Because your explanation makes not a shred of sense.

The "unrecommend" feature does nothing but reduce an thread starter post's "score" to determine whether it will show on the Greatest page, so-called.

Are you somehow claiming that those of us who never have posts recommended to the Greatest page are being chased away? Should I have left a long time ago and just was too stupid to realize it?

Deargod, this one of the most bizarre collections of whiners I have ever managed to come across.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:38 PM
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114. It doesn't, but that's why you're being ignored. You're making sense, see? nt
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:26 PM
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42. I tried to unrecommend your post, and it did not go negative.
It just stayed at zero.

Curious too. I would think any system should have as much potential either way. Looks like the fucking tweed hat democrats won another one and will cause further division based on stupid and unrealistic ideals.

You are right. There are several networks of operatives on DU. I will mention the "gun enthusiasts" as one, but I will not mention any others. The price is too high for doing so.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:26 PM
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43. It will work itself out
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 03:30 PM by LaurenG
So you are afraid that only pro Obama voices will be on the front page and no criticism?

My advice and I know you didn't ask for it is to take a deep breath and realize change is part of being alive go with the flow and see how this works out rather than decide it's all terrible without giving it a chance to see how it works.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:26 PM
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45. Irony is when people whining about "critical thought" can't stand criticism.
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:28 PM
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48. I can't stand that there will no longer be a diversity of viewpoint
It will all be "majority rule" when it comes to the greatest page....seeing only what the "majority" wants us to see.
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Name removed (0 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:30 PM
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:32 PM
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55. hahahah! Please stop! Allowing BOTH sides to vote is the very definition of diversity...
What you're really for a route to EVERYONE'S greatest page that requires:

(a) Only a very few need to support it
(b) Those who oppose it have no say, no matter how many they may be.

That's what you call "diversity of opinion".

Tell me more lies. Please.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:37 PM
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60. The only people upset with this are those that tend to be CONTRARIAN to most DUers

"My extreme viewpoint, with recs by 5 of my friends, won't make it to the Greatest Page anymore! Wah!"
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:42 PM
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117. That's the gripe, in a nutshell! Well done! Very succinctly put! nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:42 PM
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118. That's the gripe, in a nutshell! Well done! Very succinctly put! nt
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:40 PM
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63. Fucking word dude that's it!
Way too many people think 'critical thinking' is just a vehicle to 'think critically' of others :dunce:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:40 PM
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116. If I could recommend a single post, I'd "rec" yours! +1!!!! nt
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:34 PM
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56. ROFL
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 03:35 PM by snooper2
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

you are being serious as well :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh WOES ME :rofl:





http://api.ning.com/files/lopnafkDyML9zgmG0SRdSyF4wyM9F... *J69KtVnaWWejO9BMfc-oHWhzJ9iHl7g4EBKLAtgvf5N-P1A/sunshine.jpg
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noamnety (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:42 PM
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65. I'm curious to see, after 24 hours,
to what degree the threads on the greatest page start aligning with stories and views in the mainstream media, vs. DU's strong point, which is shining light on those stories that slip under the radar in the Friday night news dump.

I suspect threads that tend to support those in power will see more visibility, and those that cause us to question the status quo will become less visible, but I hope I am proven wrong.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:42 PM
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66. Can we also have a "Shittiest Page"? n/t
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Rob Gregory Browne (333 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:42 PM
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67. Optimism sucks, doesn't it?
Cynicism is soooo much better.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:45 PM
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71. I See It The Other Way Around
seems to me, the threads shredding Obama make it to the greatest page.

I haven't been going there, cuz I'm sick of it.

I'm cheering for him to do his best under some very dire conditions. Not much is going well these days - anywhere, everywhere - sea, land, air, rights, foreign policy, economy.... you name it.
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:47 PM
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75. so what you're saying is you're tired of objectivity from the left
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:50 PM
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82. Hmmm....

"Shredding Obama" = "objectivity"



...and you wonder why your threads won't make it to the greatest page.

:eyes:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:10 PM
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90. No But ...
the tone has gotten rather nasty, not just here, but everywhere - TV, radio, print, space - I'm aware of most of the complaints and criticisms. - I'm not happy about many things too, but I'm taking a bit of a break from hating the president by not responding to each and every thread that tears him apart.

Besides, these days, I'm focused on one thing.

Health care for all.
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Rob Gregory Browne (333 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 05:29 PM
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131. I see very little objectivity on these forums
and I don't necessarily exclude myself.
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:46 PM
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73. Simple solution is to get rid of both the recommend and unrecommend options.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:50 PM
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84. Good idea - what kind of reader chooses threads because of recs anyway?? nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:29 PM
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107. I support this idea. n/t
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:47 PM
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74. "Unrecommending" something is not the same as silencing the thought, so...
What exactly is the problem?

What you call "Cheerleading" is merely another way for people to express THEIR opinion.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:50 PM
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85. Are you seriuos?! Unrecommending IS silencing dissent! WTF!
:wtf:
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noamnety (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:52 PM
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86. It's like the free speech pens at national conventions
Anyone can say their piece - over here, in this corner where you won't be so ... you know ... visible to the public.

A clever way to allow free speech while silencing it at the same time.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:16 PM
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96. Really? it's just like that, huh?

Everyone has a right to have their every thought on the "Greatest Page"?
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noamnety (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:26 PM
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103. strawman. (nt)
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:31 PM
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108. Actually, your post about "free speech pens" represents a strawman argument...
...if you care about definitions.
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-10-09 02:02 AM
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145. How come I can still see your messages then?
In fact I can still see your thread about silencing dissent. Clearly this new nuclear option isn't working very well.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:48 PM
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77. So you can't think without a cheerleading squad to back you up?
I'm sure I'm missing something here. Wouldn't be the first time.
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:49 PM
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80. That the unrec function was even deemed necessary is interesting.
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:50 PM
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83. obviously the chris crocker cheerleaders were tired of seeing anything remotely objective
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:06 PM
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88. If by "objective" you mean "small # of ppl agree and nobody disagreeing can stop it"...
Then yes.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I can't quite tell if you know you're a liar, or if you actually believe the bullshit you're saying.

I suppose it doesn't much matter.
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mullard12ax7 (336 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 03:49 PM
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81. K & unR!
I only want MJ and Palin gossip to fill my life with happy joy contentment. Who needs critical thought?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:12 PM
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91. Am I the only one who never looks at the front page? I click on stories I want to read
not want anyone recommends to me, or is that too difficult?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:13 PM
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92. Latest is my DU home page. I rarely if ever visit the Greatest page.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:16 PM
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95. Yeah, I am bookmarked to GD: Prez
Never even visit the front page.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 04:14 PM
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94. I don't either. I've got DU bookmarked to go
straight to the Forum page. I don't get what the big deal is. Who cares how many recs a thread has?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-10-09 01:52 AM
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144. same here
Seems simple enough :)
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LAGC Donating Member (519 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:16 PM
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97. K&U
Just kidding... I recommended, but it wasn't enough to change the status. It still shows <0.
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:17 PM
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98. lol I knew the GD:P bots who so desperately wanted and needed this feature would swoop in
so it's not gonna matter how many rec or unrec it.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:17 PM
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99. I suppose that's why all the posts prior to this with the most recommends were knee-jerk
flame bait about how Obama was a Reagan-in-disguise, homophobic, torturing, jack-booted, fascist?
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:19 PM
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101. hyperbole is great, isn't it?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:20 PM
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102. LOL... says the OP who started this pure-hyperbole thread
What was that you said about skunks?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:26 PM
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104. Paranoia strikes deep......
"Toe the line?"

"Operatives?"

"My, my, my, how DU has changed?"

I thought "change we can believe in" was a GOOD thing!

Things that stay the same, to my mind, are rotting.

This is a discussion board. If the quality of your discussion sucks, you'll know about it. I should think this new feature would help all of us do a better job in formulating an argument.

I think I will "unrec" this, because it sounds, to my ear, like a petulant whine. Also, I really like the "unrec" feature because it stops five bullies from putting unrepresentative crap that most of us think is absolute bullshit on the greatest page.

But thanks for giving me "permission!"
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 04:27 PM
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105. I love this thread ...
I haven't had a deep, belly laugh at work like this in a LONG time.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:34 PM
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111. I'm going to shed a tear like Hillary.
:patriot: Just raising the flag in honor of all America!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:34 PM
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112. It's ironic timing for those thinking that things had gotten too negative ..........................
as in derogatory. People picking on each other constantly. Is there a tech fix for that?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:36 PM
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113. This thread reminds me of "Pete Hoekstra is a Meme"






"A Thread I Like Might Not End Up On The Greatest Page: This Is The Greatest Strike Against Freedom Since the Redcoats Marched To Lexington!"
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:45 PM
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121. If I could I would recommend your post.
LOL Thanks.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:39 PM
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115. This was more true with the "recommend" only feature.
Many critical posts sink because of the tripe that made it to the top of the greatest page.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:45 PM
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122. That's the way I'm looking at it.
I don't know how it will pan out, but I think this feature gives people the ability to disapprove of supercilious nonsense to the benefit of serious issue-oriented discussions.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:43 PM
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119. Recommended...
Which means it'll be back down to 0 soon enough... :(
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:44 PM
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120. I said this in jest in another thread, but it's based in truth and honesty...
...I could give a flying fuck about popularity.

There are people on DU I like very much, and I'm confident that they know who they are.

There are people on my ignore list, and I'm sure I'm on a few as well.

And then there's everyone else.

I'm a member of this site, I do my best to follow the rules, I enjoy making people laugh (assuming that I ever accomplish that) and I try to post actual political discourse as well.

As I said in the aforementioned thread, my advice to people who don't "get" me is to "bite" me. Pure and simple. I don't seek popularity and I don;t need to be understood. People with those needs are only flaunting their weakness.

:patriot:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 04:46 PM
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123. "operatives"?. . just how many of those do you think there are?
curious...
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-09-09 04:46 PM
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124. WAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! I Can No Longer Post My Inflammatory Crap And Get All My Troll Friends To Rec It Up
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 04:46 PM by Beetwasher
To the top of the greatest page!!! WAHHHH!!!! :rofl:

Why do hate Democracy?
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-09-09 04:47 PM
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