Recommend this thread if you agree that Rush Limbaugh should be thrown off Armed Forces Radio

Why is he still allowed to spew his anti-American hate over Armed Forces Radio? Our troops should not be subjected to his vitriol. I can understand why Bush needed his propaganda, but why has Obama allowed it to continue?

Lets jack this up with recommendations - please keep the comments clean and rational. Then send the link in an e-mail to your Congress members requesting the immediate termination Rush's hate show from Armed Forces Radio.

Thank you

Shouldn't the troops decide? Most of them like him.

AFR should be non political.

And it certainly shouldn't be broadcasting someone who advocates a military coup in our country.

or when they get to it, they should take FOX news off AFRTS as well, since it's nothing more than a Repugnant propaganda network.

LIVE FROM ARUBA!

Air America should be allowed on ARFTS. Limbaugh should not be. MSNBC should be allowed on AFRTS. Fox News should not be.

But broadcasting to our military should not be partisan, and Rush & Fox are pure Republican.

If they are going to put someone like rush on AFN, then they had better counter it with someone like Cenk.

I bet the troops support month long vacations as well. Shouldn't they decide on that? Most of them like vacations.

The 'troops' have been getting a month off every year for many, many years. It is called 'leave' and it is 30 days every year.

My first leave was 30 days in 1953, as I recall.

I bet most soldiers would like that..

Nice try.

What were you paid back then, 200 bucks a month?

I am pretty sure the KKK would "donate" some air time to put out their views but should they be allowed access also. I am pretty sure many soldiers would find their views appealing as well. Tax payer money is used to fund Armed Forces Radio and tax payers should have some say in how their money is spent. Maybe not directly but through their representation in Congress. I personally find Limbaugh as offensive or even more so than the KKK because he is more insidious and not quite as overt..

*roffle*

No, they shouldn't. And if that disgusting, stupid, anal cyst of a man stays on, they should have a sane (liberal) voice put on the air as well.

nm

limpbaugh.

Give me a fuckin break.

Radio for years. When my nephew was in Afghanistan it was a significant issue and they quip playing AF Radio over speakers because of protests.

Have you served in the military? Do you like him?

Or would you like it plain?

anchovies. And I can't help but hope for a quick delivery to our new poster.

"WTF?"-

At least if they're going to have him on, which they shouldn't because he is a LYING LIAR, but if they are going to have him on they should represent the other end of the spectrum.

In fact, they should have Hartmann on to represent the center and then have Alex Jones or Noam Chomsky on to counteract Limpballs.

is an appropriate choice for the soldiers to listen to?


really?

Bye

Uhm because, as I was told when I enlisted, "the army is not a democracy."

Well that was the short answer, the longer answer is that AFRTs (armed forces radio and television) is not a branch of the republican party. They are not required nor obligated to publishing, distributing, or broadcasting propaganda and theoretically they are supposed to be apolitical.

You need to justify allowing that bloated tick airtime to indoctrinate our troops in right wing propaganda. I mean if we are going to allow politcal commentary on that scale shouldn't we also have Air America given equal time? Or maybe the young turks or Amy goodman?

I'm sure that a lot of troops would like to hear Ed Schultz or Thom Hartmann or Ron Reagan.

But AFR shouldn't be running partisan shows. And ESPECIALLY one as partisan and one-sided as Rush.

How did we arrive at that conclusion?

AFRTS doesn't put programming on based on ratings but thanks to pressure from the large radio corporates who used their clout during the boooosh years to dictate programming.

Personally, I am against any form of censorship and really could care less if AFRTS carries the lying windbag. I have far more faith in the American people...especially those in the military, to know what a liar and traitor Oxy boy is.

But then, sounds like you're here to troll. How'd you like your pizza? Enjoy your very brief stay...

Under the rules of the United States Military it is irrelevant who or what the troops like.

If the troops wanted to hear a xenophobic racist screaming about killing all Asians and Jews because they were trying to take over the world - the US Military would not allow that on the radio or TV

Limbaugh does cross the line in his attacks on Obama and that is a violation of the rules that the military has set out (at least the ones that I were there in 1990)

The military is about good order and discipline, not about popularity or good times

Members of the service are not allowed to
-Openly criticize the Commander-in-Chief
-Wear their uniform at a partisan political event
-Use their active duty status to promote political causes

Unless he goes Bob Dornan and starts urging soldiers to revolt.

Rush has been alluding to a coup or revolution, that may be fine for the "free speech" airways but AFR shouldn't be carrying anti-American programming.

FREEPER Alert!!!!!!!!!

and I mean dicks.

That needs to stop, NOW.

A more practical solution might be requiring something to counterbalance Limbaugh.

Bryant

I happen to disagree but if they should be then why shouldn't they be allowed to wear their uniforms to political gatherings and while making political speeches?

at issues from both sides of the fence; I'm certainly not Limbaugh's biggest fan, but he's part of the national discussion.

But to turn it around, if they aren't to be politicized, should the military be allowed to vote?

Bryant

The Tweed Hat Democrats will destroy our country and our party.

What are you talking about?

Bryant

I agree soldiers should be allowed to listen to anything they want to listen to on civilian radio or civilian TV but I do not believe Armed Forces Radio should be putting on political programming. Why shouldn't soldiers be allowed to drive their own vehicles or bring their own weapons into battle?

But with advances in the internet maybe that's not as big an issue as it once was.

Bryant

He adds nothing to the national discussion. He's only mentioned in it because of sensationalism. He has called for the Commander and Chief to fail. That alone should have him off AFR

The military is about good order and discipline

They can vote at the ballot box for President, etc and that is it

It is irrelevant what they like (My time in teh Army taught me that)

If, what he (or anybody) says about the President of the United States is not in accordance with the rules of the United States Military then he should be pulled off the radio.

Active-duty military personnel can appear at political rallies and protests, but while wearing civilian clothes. To participate in such political rallies while in uniform is to suggest that the active-duty soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine does so as a soldier and uses authority as such or is at it to do some such function as domestic spying upon the activity on behalf or the Armed Services which are prohibited from doing so.

is add a progressive voice.

n/t

voices like Thom Hartmann, or even Randi Rhodes, who is ex-military, so they have a choice. Although, I hear that they do get Randi by some kind of bootleg method.

He made the announcement on air about a year ago. So unless he's been kicked off he is on AFR.

... like Hannity and Beck et al, because they might say they have the right to freedom of speech and a right to their opinion, then the DoD only has to listen to them for just a few minutes to hear these hatemongers repeat lie after lie and various other misquotes and exaggerations. They aren't just sharing their personal opinion. They are spreading ideological propaganda and they will do whatever it takes to get it done. And that includes lying their weasel asses off.

most of the groups that he hates on, women, jews, blacks, mexicans, democrats, obama supporters, etc, with the possible exception of the complete figments of his imagination, serve with distinction every day. so the are not only slandered on the radio, they are slandered in front of the other members of their unit.
how is that for unit cohesion?

they sold the idea of "free speech zones" oops, i guess that does not apply to their propaganda.

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Of course that creature should be removed from AFR.

said 1/4 of the slurs that Limbaugh regularly makes against the president and the federal govt. they would be court marshalled.

I shouldn't try to post while I'm running back and forth to the bathroom w/ diahrea. I always misspell shit.


OH - here I go again!!!!

They sound a lot alike and some soldiers would never notice the difference. Except Ed would have a different point of view. Then they could judge their viewpoints more on merit.

I remember a big stink years ago about Ed not being allowed on Armed Forces Radio. I thought it got resolved and his show went on there.

I will not stop anyone from spewing.

How did he get on there, anyway?

The government does not have to give the troops any media, that is not required.

So why did they pick OxyRush? Because they were a Republican administration and he cheered it on. But now, when Bloatbaugh is trashing their CIC every day?

If we have to provide them with media, let it be something more neutral than Limpdick.

Nor does it bash their Commander in Chief on a daily basis. (that doesn't help the respect given to chain of command)

but you want to limit theirs? If I remember correctly Limbaugh's was only on one hour a day on the AM channel. I guess AFN should only consist of elevator music that is about as neutral as you can get.

Uh....it already is.....

and have had it for the last 50+ years

Like it or not, the Military is NOT a Democracy

The military loves Obama; why can't we provide a viable show as well? Something from Air America? We need to think in terms of providing a viable alternative, not just eliminating anything we don't like. If our side is right, we'll prevail in a debate anyways. I have my doubts after Air America's listenership though; putting an unsuccessful show on that noone wants to listen to just to have an opposition voice seems wasteful.

ed for sp

Ed Schultz is currently on AFR:

AFN also offers a variety of radio programming over its various frequencies throughout the world. Not only is there local programming (with sailors and soldiers as disc jockeys), but there is satellite programming, as well. Music programming spans Rock, Oldies, R&B and country music. Ryan Seacrest's AT 40 and the American Country Countdown with Kix Brooks are broadcast weekly over AFN Radio. In addition to music, AFN broadcasts syndicated talk radio programs such as Car Talk, Kim Komando, Rush Limbaugh, The Tom Joyner Morning Show, The Motley Fool Radio Show, A Prairie Home Companion, Dr. Laura, Sports Overnight America, and other programs from National Public Radio and other sources. Letters From War by Mark Schultz was the #1 song on AFN in 2004. Weekly religious ecumenical programming on Sunday's includes First Radio Parish Church of America with Rev. Peter Panagore.

On December 5, 2005, liberal/progressive Ed Schultz from Jones Radio Network and conservative talk show host Sean Hannity were added to the radio programs provided by the AFN Broadcast Center to its affiliate stations. The addition of Al Franken's show soon followed but was replaced by the Alan Colmes show when Franken started his Senatorial campaign.

That would tell the real story.

I do like that they still let the enlisted be DJs.

on AFR

and should not have to be "requested".

He ended free college in California because he didn't want to pay for the education of people who disagreed with his policies.

Why should Obama tolerate subjecting our troops to someone who has dedicated himself to seeing the United States fail?

that means when there is a Republican administration they would be fully justified in removing Olbermann and the rest from AFN.

Christ sakes, they do surveys every 2 years I think ( I just took it ) and go for what the Soldiers want. If he wasn't popular he wouldnt be on. Of course some people don't like him and of course some do.

How bout you let us decide what we want to listen to and keep to your own. Honestly we are big boys and girls.

I am in the military on deployment and I enjoy watching Olberman on my lunch break. It is great that AFN puts him on after Oreily. I prefer balance and for the most part, I agree with Olberman on issues much more than someone like Limbaugh. It is also funny to see how angry some soldiers get when Olberman is on. OK, I take absolute bliss over it.

I don't want content taken away because someone is critical to the current occupant of the whitehouse just as I wouldn't want Olberman or Rachel Maddow removed if a Republican was in office.

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He's had too much time on our air waves.

He is a liar, a bigot, a liar, a bully, a closet gay, abused drugs and doctor shopped,
wants our President to fail, and on and on. Oh, and then there was the container of Viagra
with someone else’s name on it. Limbaugh is the king of hypocrites. Only the fools listen to Limbaugh.

It's waaaaay past time.

I just want a progressive show on AFR as well. I think Ed Schultz is on now and I wouldn't want him forced off.

Besides I agree with the poster above. Let the troops decide.

Let's have history repeat. Crazy Horse, are you there?

Having a progressive show does not counter a show that advocates hatred of the commander in chief. It is time to replace Robert Gates.

Counterpunch him with progressive programming instead.

Gadzooks, I DESPISE this cowardly, sniveling, obnoxious CREATURE...
He's such a liar. He's like Grima Wormtongue, only without the charm and good hair...



EVERYTHING he says is a lie and a GRAND hypocrisy; he's a high-octane cultural corrosive,
he POISONS the wells of the world, that's what he does, that's ALL he does...

He's an agent, a tool... he's not the Propaganda Minister, but he IS the TOP puppet... and one
cannot attain such heights, lacking ANY perceivable talent save that of extended whining, without
MAJOR backing from the usual shadowy forces... he will likely continue to enjoy the hospitality of
the US Army, seeing what a foaming lapdog of war, what a cheerleader for human slaughter he has been over the long years..

What a pity. He was the first, as I recall, to attack a sitting president's young daughter, who was a completely innocent 13-yr-old.

The late columnist Molly Ivins reported:

"On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, 'Did you know there's a White House dog?' Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.

When viewers objected, he claimed, in typical Limbaugh fashion, that the gag was an accident and that without his permission some technician had put up the picture of Chelsea -- which I found as disgusting as his original attempt at humor."

He should be banned for complete and utter lack of basic social graces. He's a circus monkey who's been trained to hurl his feces at ANYTHING AT ALL marked with a (D).

Hell, on his very BEST day, he comes off like Father Coughlin on a nitrous bender.



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Grima Wormtongue did NOT have good hair and certainly not what I would call "charm". That said, his hair and charm factor still trump Limbaugh who is more like Gollum's personality in Jabba the Hut's body.

that should be reason enough.

Our military shouldn't be broadcasting that.

I'll recommend it twice if you take out "Armed Forces."
One more time if you take out "Armed Forces Radio" and add "a tall building" to the end.

God, how I hate that man.

Just sayin'

Sorry I pissed so many people off. I thought it was common knowledge that most military personnel, particularly officers and NCOs, tend to vote Republican.

Your Swampness!

Post the link to this thread so they know how we feel.

We need to get this anti-American hate-monger off of AFR NOW! President Obama should have done that immediately, but to be fair, I'm not sure he knows about it. Our troops deserve better. How would you feel if you were deployed and the OFFICIAL radio station carried someone telling you your CIC isn't patriotic, doesn't support America, doesn't support the troops, should FAIL, and in the context of Honduras, implied that the military should stage a coup against him? That's not just disgusting, it is treason. As I said, our troops deserve better.

five years ago, and the Senate voted unanimously, even then, to bring more balance to the type of programming the troops were exposed to. The demand came after Rush Limbaugh's disgusting comments about the abuse at Abu Ghraib leading some politicians to say he was harming the troops and the US around the world, with his remarks.

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/pdf/harkin-pr...

June 16, 2004 (Washington, DC) -- Democracy Radio and Media Matters for America today
lauded Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) and the entire United States Senate for calling on the
American Forces Radio and Television Service (AFRTS) to provide political balance in its
public affairs programming. On June 14, 2004, Senator Harkin introduced an amendment to the
2004 Department of Defense authorization bill, calling on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
to develop appropriate methods of oversight to ensure the news service presents balanced
political programming. The measure passed in the Senate by unanimous consent.

“It’s gratifying that the United States Senate recognizes that AFRTS is failing to provide
politically balanced radio programming to its soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines,” said Tom
Athans, executive director of Democracy Radio. “Our fighting men and women hold a variety of
political beliefs and they deserve to hear diverse programming that more fairly reflects those
beliefs.”

He was not removed, airc, but instead there were calls to air some liberal viewpoints for balance, and Ed Schultz was chosen as a counter to Rush Limbaugh. I don't know if the coverage is balanced now or not, but the whole issue was dropped once Ed Schultz was put on the air.

Desperate Army Recruits Neo-Nazis

'Why the U.S. military is ignoring its own regulations and permitting white supremacists to join.

On a muggy Florida evening in 2008, I meet Iraq War veteran Forrest Fogarty in the Winghouse, a little bar-restaurant on the outskirts of Tampa, his favorite hangout. He told me on the phone I would recognize him by his skinhead. Sure enough, when I spot a white guy at a table by the door with a shaved head, white tank top and bulging muscles, I know it can only be him.'

http://www.alternet.org/world/140686/%22i_hate_arabs_mo...

Tell me how he should have access to military ears for this.

Rp

The fact is that Limbaugh has been on AFN for many, many years and it is time for a new voice. Nowhere is it written that Limbaugh has a RIGHT to broadcast on the network forever. He had his decade. Also, never forget his initial OK to be on the AFN was a POLITICAL decision.

Take away his microphone.

kick that ass off all the airwaves!

And the troops have to do the hard work and physically Jump.

On a similar not, the Commander is not the one that is subjected to a monotonous Drone of Limp Balls.

That obese right wing coward needs to be run off Armed Forces Radio.

What are the conservatives going to say? We have 60 Democrats in the Senate, a majority in the House, and we hold the Executive Branch. We should run Rush Limbaugh off the radio and let the Republicans scream.

it was ok for MJ to be hooked on pain killers but not for limpballs.

nt

Do NOT forget to write the White House, your representative, and your senators about this! Limbaugh's anti-American diatribes should NOT be broadcast to our troops! They deserve better.

I'm not sure President Obama even knows about it.

Since Clinton was President, why didnt he get him off?

For the military it is irrelevant whether or not someone has listeners or is popular

It is whether what the person is saying violates the rules of the Military.

I'm not sure how he stays on AFR, since his comments do cross that line (at least the one's in place back when I was in)