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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:55 AM
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Bush, Cheney Still Lie with Abandon (Robert Parry)
Here's work from a true journalist:



Bush/Cheney Still Lie with Abandon

What makes George W. Bush and Dick Cheney such extraordinary threats to the future of American democracy is their readiness to tell half-truths and outright lies consistently without any apparent fear of accountability.


by Robert Parry
Consortiumnews.com

While other politicians might spin some facts in a policy debate or a tell a fib about a personal indiscretion, President Bush and Vice President Cheney act as if they have the power and the right to manufacture reality itself, often on matters of grave significance that bear on war and peace or the future of the nation.

Even in the face of growing public skepticism, Bush and Cheney continue to invent new lies and retell old ones, seemingly with the goal of at least keeping their gullible right-wing “base” behind the faux reality depicted on Fox News, the Rush Limbaugh radio show and other right-wing media outlets.

So, on April 5, Cheney showed no hesitancy in telling Limbaugh’s listeners both an old canard about how Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was in league with al-Qaeda terrorists and a new one about how a U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq would “play right into the hands of al-Qaeda.”

Cheney surely knows that U.S. intelligence analysts have reached the opposite conclusions on both points – that there was no operational relationship between Hussein’s regime and al-Qaeda; that terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was based in a section of northern Iraq outside Hussein’s control; and that the U.S. occupation of Iraq has been a boon to al-Qaeda that the terrorist group wants to extend, not end.

As one of Osama bin Laden’s top lieutenants, known as “Atiyah,” wrote two years ago, “prolonging the war is in our interest.” The letter, dated Dec. 11, 2005, and obtained by U.S. intelligence after Zarqawi’s death in June 2006, urged that Zarqawi’s jihadists in Iraq show patience and restraint in deepening their ties to Iraqi Sunni insurgents.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/040607.html



If more people listened to this Parry guy, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:11 AM
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1. Yes, people should listen to Parry -- thanks, Octafish! n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:41 AM
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9. Parry on the 'Media Crisis'
Robert Parry absolutely pegs Corporate McPravda:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/media.html

There's a reason the nation's Founders mentioned only one business in the Constitution: The Free Press is essential for the survival of government by the People and for the People.

The presstitutes at ABCNNBCBSFoolsNoiseNutwork and WaHoPoNYTribune and the rest of press corpse should be ashamed. That must be why they're always giving each other awards.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:16 AM
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2. That Parry guy is scary to the US/Corporate owned propaganda machine
imagine if CNNMSRNCABCCBSNBC pointed this out.....

<snip>

Though the Bush administration has made much of Zarqawi slipping into Baghdad in 2002 to receive some medical treatment, U.S. intelligence has concluded that Hussein’s government did not know where Zarqawi was and indeed launched a manhunt aimed at arresting him.

“The regime did not have a relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his associates,” concluded a CIA report dated Oct. 25, 2005.

A September 2006 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee said Zarqawi used an alias while getting medical treatment and evaded capture by the Iraq Intelligence Service, which created a “special committee” to track him down.

Further, the Senate panel concluded that “no postwar information indicates that Iraq intended to use al-Qa’ida or any other terrorist group to strike the United States homeland before or during” the U.S. invasion.

.... imagine if this was pointed out anywhere in the M$M? That is why they continue to spew these LIES! No one calls them on it anywhere except excellent news site like Consortium.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:26 AM
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3. as Parry states so well at the end...
Bush and Cheney apparently believe that today’s friendlier media environment still lets them do or say almost anything they want. But a democratic Republic cannot long endure when leaders substitute lies for truth.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:21 AM
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7. M$M's job the last 20 yrs is to be propaganda arm for the fascists who bought control of them
in the 80s and 90s.

Parry started consortium news in 1995 to preserve investigative journalism that was quickly being killed off in this country, and to maintain a historic record for future generations.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:36 AM
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8. I would just say more like thirty years
Edited on Sat Apr-07-07 10:58 AM by leftchick
and you are correct about the fascists who own them. Then they distract with american idol and survivor so americans don't notice. It is a pretty successful strategy unfortunately. :(
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:48 AM
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10. If I may add... push it back 43 years to 22 November 1963...
CIA Instructions to Media Assets re: Assassination of President Kennedy

Original CIA memo, thanks to Webcom.com:

CIA Instructions to Media Assets

CIA Document #1035-960, marked "PSYCH" for presumably Psychological Warfare Operations, in the division "CS", the Clandestine Services, sometimes known as the "dirty tricks" department.




RE: Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report

1. Our Concern. From the day of President Kennedy's assassination on, there has been speculation about the responsibility for his murder. Although this was stemmed for a time by the Warren Commission report, (which appeared at the end of September 1964), various writers have now had time to scan the Commission's published report and documents for new pretexts for questioning, and there has been a new wave of books and articles criticizing the Commission's findings. In most cases the critics have speculated as to the existence of some kind of conspiracy, and often they have implied that the Commission itself was involved. Presumably as a result of the increasing challenge to the Warren Commission's report, a public opinion poll recently indicated that 46% of the American public did not think that Oswald acted alone, while more than half of those polled thought that the Commission had left some questions unresolved. Doubtless polls abroad would show similar, or possibly more adverse results.

2. This trend of opinion is a matter of concern to the U.S. government, including our organization. The members of the Warren Commission were naturally chosen for their integrity, experience and prominence. They represented both major parties, and they and their staff were deliberately drawn from all sections of the country. Just because of the standing of the Commissioners, efforts to impugn their rectitude and wisdom tend to cast doubt on the whole leadership of American society. Moreover, there seems to be an increasing tendency to hint that President Johnson himself, as the one person who might be said to have benefited, was in some way responsible for the assassination. Innuendo of such seriousness affects not only the individual concerned, but also the whole reputation of the American government. Our organization itself is directly involved: among other facts, we contributed information to the investigation. Conspiracy theories have frequently thrown suspicion on our organization, for example by falsely alleging that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for us. The aim of this dispatch is to provide material countering and discrediting the claims of the conspiracy theorists, so as to inhibit the circulation of such claims in other countries. Background information is supplied in a classified section and in a number of unclassified attachments.

3. Action. We do not recommend that discussion of the assassination question be initiated where it is not already taking place. Where discussion is active addresses are requested:

    a. To discuss the publicity problem with (?)and friendly elite contacts (especially politicians and editors), pointing out that the Warren Commission made as thorough an investigation as humanly possible, that the charges of the critics are without serious foundation, and that further speculative discussion only plays into the hands of the opposition. Point out also that parts of the conspiracy talk appear to be deliberately generated by Communist propagandists. Urge them to use their influence to discourage unfounded and irresponsible speculation.

    b. To employ propaganda assets to and refute the attacks of the critics. Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose. The unclassified attachments to this guidance should provide useful background material for passing to assets. Our ploy should point out, as applicable, that the critics are (I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in, (II) politically interested, (III) financially interested, (IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research, or (V) infatuated with their own theories. In the course of discussions of the whole phenomenon of criticism, a useful strategy may be to single out Epstein's theory for attack, using the attached Fletcher article and Spectator piece for background. (Although Mark Lane's book is much less convincing that Epstein's and comes off badly where confronted by knowledgeable critics, it is also much more difficult to answer as a whole, as one becomes lost in a morass of unrelated details.)
    4. In private to media discussions not directed at any particular writer, or in attacking publications which may be yet forthcoming, the following arguments should be useful:

      a. No significant new evidence has emerged which the Commission did not consider. The assassination is sometimes compared (e.g., by Joachim Joesten and Bertrand Russell) with the Dreyfus case; however, unlike that case, the attack on the Warren Commission have produced no new evidence, no new culprits have been convincingly identified, and there is no agreement among the critics. (A better parallel, though an imperfect one, might be with the Reichstag fire of 1933, which some competent historians (Fritz Tobias, AJ.P. Taylor, D.C. Watt) now believe was set by Vander Lubbe on his own initiative, without acting for either Nazis or Communists; the Nazis tried to pin the blame on the Communists, but the latter have been more successful in convincing the world that the Nazis were to blame.)

      b. Critics usually overvalue particular items and ignore others. They tend to place more emphasis on the recollections of individual witnesses (which are less reliable and more divergent--and hence offer more hand-holds for criticism) and less on ballistics, autopsy, and photographic evidence. A close examination of the Commission's records will usually show that the conflicting eyewitness accounts are quoted out of context, or were discarded by the Commission for good and sufficient reason.

      c. Conspiracy on the large scale often suggested would be impossible to conceal in the United States, esp. since informants could expect to receive large royalties, etc. Note that Robert Kennedy, Attorney General at the time and John F. Kennedy's brother, would be the last man to overlook or conceal any conspiracy. And as one reviewer pointed out, Congressman Gerald R. Ford would hardly have held his tongue for the sake of the Democratic administration, and Senator Russell would have had every political interest in exposing any misdeeds on the part of Chief Justice Warren. A conspirator moreover would hardly choose a location for a shooting where so much depended on conditions beyond his control: the route, the speed of the cars, the moving target, the risk that the assassin would be discovered. A group of wealthy conspirators could have arranged much more secure conditions.

      d. Critics have often been enticed by a form of intellectual pride: they light on some theory and fall in love with it; they also scoff at the Commission because it did not always answer every question with a flat decision one way or the other. Actually, the make-up of the Commission and its staff was an excellent safeguard against over-commitment to any one theory, or against the illicit transformation of probabilities into certainties.

      e. Oswald would not have been any sensible person's choice for a co-conspirator. He was a "loner," mixed up, of questionable reliability and an unknown quantity to any professional intelligence service. (Archivist's note: This claim is demonstrably untrue with the latest file releases. The CIA had an operational interest in Oswald less than a month before the assassination. Source: Oswald and the CIA, John Newman and newly released files from the National Archives.)

      f. As to charges that the Commission's report was a rush job, it emerged three months after the deadline originally set. But to the degree that the Commission tried to speed up its reporting, this was largely due to the pressure of irresponsible speculation already appearing, in some cases coming from the same critics who, refusing to admit their errors, are now putting out new criticisms.

      g. Such vague accusations as that "more than ten people have died mysteriously" can always be explained in some natural way e.g.: the individuals concerned have for the most part died of natural causes; the Commission staff questioned 418 witnesses (the FBI interviewed far more people, conduction 25,000 interviews and re interviews), and in such a large group, a certain number of deaths are to be expected. (When Penn Jones, one of the originators of the "ten mysterious deaths" line, appeared on television, it emerged that two of the deaths on his list were from heart attacks, one from cancer, one was from a head-on collision on a bridge, and one occurred when a driver drifted into a bridge abutment.)


    5. Where possible, counter speculation by encouraging reference to the Commission's Report itself. Open-minded foreign readers should still be impressed by the care, thoroughness, objectivity and speed with which the Commission worked. Reviewers of other books might be encouraged to add to their account the idea that, checking back with the report itself, they found it far superior to the work of its critics.

    SOURCE



The cover-up is is the work of professionals representing Big Oil, Big Media, Wall Street, the Mafia and the Military Industrial Complex. One family has tentacles in all those circles.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:25 AM
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12. thank you Octafish
It is simply astonishing the length of those tentacles. They seem to be neverending.

:hi:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:52 AM
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11. Rise of a Very 'Loyal Bushie' (Robert Parry)
These Bushies steal elections, don't they?



Rise of a Very 'Loyal Bushie'

If you want to know what the career path of a “loyal Bushie” looks like, let me introduce you to J. Timothy Griffin, a Karl Rove protégé who was slipped into the post of U.S. Attorney in Little Rock, Arkansas, and now is at the center of the controversy over whether the Bush administration has sought to politicize federal prosecutions.


By Richard L. Fricker
March 28, 2007

Since college, the 38-year-old Griffin has been following the stations of the cross for a Republican legal/political operative with ambitions to rise to a position of power and influence in a government like the one headed by George W. Bush.

Griffin has pretty much touched them all – the Federalist Society, work for a Clinton-era special prosecutor, the Florida recount battle in 2000, opposition research and voter security duties for the Republican National Committee in Campaign 2004, a brief tour as a military lawyer in Iraq, a deputy in Karl Rove’s political shop at the White House.

But now this carefully groomed Republican operative stands out as Exhibit A for Democrats as they contend that the Bush administration imposed political litmus tests on federal prosecutors who wield enormous power over the lives of those they investigate. A U.S. Attorney not only has wide discretion over normal prosecutions but can tip a political race by either shutting down or starting up a criminal probe.

Beyond being the personification of proof that Bush put political loyalty over legal competence, Griffin has become the test case for the use of new emergency powers in the Patriot Act to circumvent Senate confirmation for U.S. Attorneys.

The administration’s gamble on Griffin was underscored by an e-mail in which Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s chief of staff Kyle Sampson warned that “there is some risk that we’ll lose the authority, but if we don’t ever exercise it then what’s the point of having it?”

Sampson’s e-mail added, “I’m not 100 percent sure that Tim was the guy on which to test drive this authority, but know that getting him appointed was important to Harriet, Karl, etc.” references to White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove and then-White House counsel Harriet Miers.

Sampson also mapped out plans for frustrating any congressional objections to Griffin’s interim appointment.

“We should gum this to death,” Sampson wrote in a Dec. 19, 2006, e-mail to a White House aide. "Ask the senators to give Tim a chance . . . then we can tell them we'll look for other candidates, ask them for recommendations, evaluate the recommendations, interview their candidates, and otherwise run out the clock. All of this should be done in 'good faith,' of course."

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/032707a.html



Then, you know what people who steal elections are called, leftchick.

Traitors.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 12:46 PM
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16. traitors indeed
Have any Democrats connected the dots on the specific prosecutors fired and election theft? I sure hope so.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:28 AM
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4. still lie with impunity it seems
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:39 AM
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5. as they said in the beginning,
they create their own reality. Often times it differs from the real reality, but they do try.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:28 PM
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23. There once was a magazine entitled ''Lies Of Our Times'' ...
It was in the late 80s and early 90s. Started as a publication to correct the paper of record, the thing was GREAT. It spelled out exactly what the heck was messed up in the NYT and the rest of Corporate McPravda. TIME did a smear on them and they faded out. Too bad, they'd have had a field day with ABCNNBCBSFoolsNoiseNutwork and the rest of today's presstitutes.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:10 AM
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6. k/r
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:30 PM
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24. Another Big Treason of Poppy's Documented by Consortiumnews...
Archive

The October Surprise Mystery

The Original Eight-Part Series -- 'October Surprise X-Files'


http://consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile.html
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:32 AM
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13. This is a good article but
why shouldn't The Regime of Terror lie with abandon? Does anyone believe there will be any consequences (excluding afterlife) for the top members? I do not.

In fact, the top members are going to be guarded, defended and lavished with Free Healthcare, $50K speaking engagements, Book deals, personal security, chefs, masseurs...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:49 AM
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15. True - that's why it is URGENT to get a Democrat elected from anti-corruption,
open government wing of the Democratic party.

No more cover up Dem administrations that will just lead to a stronger revival of the BFEE while they pretend they are out of power.

No more Democrats who protect secrecy and privilege of the Bush family and their cronies.

Elect open government Democrats.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:41 PM
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26. $50,000 speaking fees? I think NOT!
It'll be more like the $1 million Poppy got from Rev. Moon, head of a giant transnational criminal enterprise that got all sorts of nice concessions from Bush "Just-Us," for a single speech. Nice work, if you can get it.

The Moon-Bush Cash Conduit

More Bush-Moon Axis:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:35 AM
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14. genetic predisposition would be my guess...
Edited on Sat Apr-07-07 11:35 AM by bridgit
they know perfectly well that were they to tell the truth NOBODY would have voted for their shit expect their Springer-cam fan base
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:56 PM
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27. They're so crooked, they can't pee straight.
My friend's late husband used to say that about Nixon.



And we know who first hired Nixon in the politics biz.

Former Federal Prosecutor John Loftus confirms the Bush-Nazi scandal
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 12:47 PM
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17. K&R .nt
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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 04:03 PM
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18. Read PArry's book.
It's a well documented history lesson about Watergate, Iran-Contra, and the Coup of 2000.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 04:49 PM
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19. Parry kick
cuz he Kicks ass!

Like Octafish.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 05:05 PM
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20. That's why we need an accountable
media & press instead of the mediawhores and pressbitches we are stuck with. With a free press there would be no bushit.

Cause these fuckers think they're gonna slide by on brainwashing. The Manchurian Candidate has nothing on the dick of death and limpballs.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 05:48 AM
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21. morning kick
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 06:10 AM
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22. As long as lies by government are acceptable
Edited on Sun Apr-08-07 06:11 AM by Solly Mack
- and I'm sorry but if they'll lie on the campaign trail, they aren't gonna just suddenly stop lying once in office - government will continue to lie. Lies can start out small and relatively harmless - but in government, lies seldom stay small or harmless.



Bush and Cheney are banking - literally banking - on not being held accountable for their criminal lies. They are basing their thinking on past evidence that favors their thinking...where other corrupt and criminal officials of government have gotten away with it because other people in government wrapped themselves up in the national healing flag.

And because all too many Americans would rather just lie to themselves and believe the bad went away when in reality the bad just got swept under the carpet. When you walk over a dusty carpet, the dust will get re-released into the room...same with corruption. You sweep it under the rug and it bides its time...it doesn't go away.

America has a criminal executive. There is no maybe about it.

The only maybe there is is whether or not America will - finally - hold a corrupt government accountable.



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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:31 PM
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25. as long as they have these right wind nuts
leaning on their every word, they will continue to spew lies
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 04:13 PM
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28. The majority of the US CorpMedia does not challenge
the lies of Busholini and his criminal Junta. In fact, complicity is the dominating force.
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