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This Modern World Healthcare reform: Here we go again! By Tom Tomorrow

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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:38 PM
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This Modern World Healthcare reform: Here we go again! By Tom TomorrowUpdated at 12:06 PM
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 09:40 PM by kpete
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   I luuuuv Tom Tomorrow  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-29-09 09:40 PM   #1 
   dead fucking ON nails it  Skittles   Jun-29-09 09:42 PM   #4 
   Absolutely nails it...  joeybee12   Jun-29-09 09:44 PM   #6 
   "Not as important as bailing out Wall Street" - tragic but true  Glorfindel   Jun-29-09 09:41 PM   #2 
   K & F-ING R  WeDidIt   Jun-29-09 09:41 PM   #3 
   is it me or do Tom's toons make the Greatest the fastest?  Skittles   Jun-29-09 09:44 PM   #5 
   Snap! Right on! nt  babylonsister   Jun-29-09 09:46 PM   #7 
   Nailed It !!! - K & R !!!  WillyT   Jun-29-09 09:47 PM   #8 
   Dead on, as usual.  MrSlayer   Jun-29-09 09:50 PM   #9 
   I really hate the fact that I completely agree with you  abq e streeter   Jun-30-09 01:11 PM   #28 
   Just more proof that satire IS reality today! nt.  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jun-29-09 09:50 PM   #10 
   Spot on  varelse   Jun-29-09 09:53 PM   #11 
   K&R, as usual. n/t  Fumesucker   Jun-29-09 09:53 PM   #12 
   That last panel is filled with so much truth. KNR  wroberts189   Jun-29-09 09:57 PM   #13 
   He Nails It  swilton   Jun-29-09 10:01 PM   #14 
   He never misses the mark K&R n/t  zeemike   Jun-29-09 10:02 PM   #15 
   His lower intestine tastes like chocolate! nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-29-09 10:23 PM   #16 
   Democrats better not be chickenshits on this  tj2001   Jun-29-09 10:30 PM   #17 
   K&R  Tabasco_Dave   Jun-29-09 11:34 PM   #18 
   Kicked  WeDidIt   Jun-30-09 09:55 AM   #19 
   it's so depressing that i find this humerous.  Soylent Brice   Jun-30-09 11:02 AM   #20 
   I wish I could find it humorous.  progressoid   Jun-30-09 07:07 PM   #38 
      same concept, i just have my "AHA" moment after i chuckle.  Soylent Brice   Jul-01-09 08:27 AM   #41 
   k and r nt  JPZenger   Jun-30-09 11:39 AM   #21 
   k+r  Blue_Tires   Jun-30-09 11:57 AM   #22 
   Fact.  wolfgangmo   Jun-30-09 12:24 PM   #23 
   I wish I could nominate your post for the Greatest Page. (n/t)  area51   Jun-30-09 01:03 PM   #26 
   Please post as OP.  Jakes Progress   Jun-30-09 02:55 PM   #33 
   Zing!  colsohlibgal   Jun-30-09 12:30 PM   #24 
   What the repugs I know hate most is the idea of spending one cent of THEIR  Lorien   Jun-30-09 12:37 PM   #25 
   They would rather let them die  liberal N proud   Jun-30-09 01:05 PM   #27 
   wait, don't tell me..is he a .....republican? ( just a wild guess )  abq e streeter   Jun-30-09 01:18 PM   #29 
   He doesn't claim to be  liberal N proud   Jun-30-09 02:21 PM   #32 
   Start calling him Ebenezer Scrooge  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-30-09 04:32 PM   #35 
   It's chilling to know such people, isn't it?  Lorien   Jul-01-09 07:40 PM   #44 
   My response would be  NewJeffCT   Jun-30-09 02:11 PM   #30 
   K&R n.t  myrna minx   Jun-30-09 02:16 PM   #31 
   I don't know if I'm laughing through the tears or  Jakes Progress   Jun-30-09 02:58 PM   #34 
   K&R  Solly Mack   Jun-30-09 06:07 PM   #36 
   K&R  Juan_de_la_Dem   Jun-30-09 06:51 PM   #37 
   lol  HughMoran   Jun-30-09 09:08 PM   #39 
   spot fucking on. nt  xchrom   Jun-30-09 09:24 PM   #40 
   kick  libnnc   Jul-01-09 09:45 AM   #42 
   This is not funny ...to those who have no health care and those who find out that...  L0oniX   Jul-01-09 10:06 AM   #43 
 
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:40 PM
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1. I luuuuv Tom Tomorrow
He always nails it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Jun-29-09 09:42 PM
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4. dead fucking ON nails it
EVERY time :thumbsup:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:44 PM
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6. Absolutely nails it...
...the demas will manage to lose on other issues as well.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:41 PM
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2. "Not as important as bailing out Wall Street" - tragic but true
Recommended.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:41 PM
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3. K & F-ING R
Spot the fuck on!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Jun-29-09 09:44 PM
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5. is it me or do Tom's toons make the Greatest the fastest?
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 09:44 PM by Skittles
yes INDEED
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Jun-29-09 09:46 PM
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7. Snap! Right on! nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:47 PM
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8. Nailed It !!! - K & R !!!
Perfection again, Tom!!!

:yourock:

:kick:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Jun-29-09 09:50 PM
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9. Dead on, as usual.
Scared little wimps are what the Democrats are. Gutless corporate slaves.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 01:11 PM
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28. I really hate the fact that I completely agree with you
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:50 PM
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10. Just more proof that satire IS reality today! nt.Updated at 10:54 AM
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Jun-29-09 09:53 PM
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11. Spot on
sadly :(
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:53 PM
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12. K&R, as usual. n/t
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:57 PM
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13. That last panel is filled with so much truth. KNR
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swilton Donating Member (415 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 10:01 PM
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14. He Nails It
Welcome to the US of Oligarchy.
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15. He never misses the mark K&R n/t
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16. His lower intestine tastes like chocolate! nt
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tj2001 (685 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 10:30 PM
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17. Democrats better not be chickenshits on this
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Tabasco_Dave (416 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 11:34 PM
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18. K&R
:kick:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 09:55 AM
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19. Kicked
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20. it's so depressing that i find this humerous.
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38. I wish I could find it humorous.
I just find it depressing.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jul-01-09 08:27 AM
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41. same concept, i just have my "AHA" moment after i chuckle.
then i let out a big sigh of sadness as i realize that it's the sad truth...

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21. k and r nt
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22. k+rUpdated at 8:36 PM
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23. Fact.
Fact. America pays more than twice per person for health care than any other nation
Fact. For this huge outlay of money America gets 3rd world health outcomes.
Fact. Wait times in ER's and for some specialists are longer than in other industrialized nations
Fact. The number one cause of bankruptcy in America is health bills, usually caused by denial of service.
Fact. Health insurance makes our companies less competitive internationally.
Fact. No other nation rations health care as much as America, either through not providing care or through denying care
Fact. Insurance companies are making record profits
Fact. Private insurers have overheads ranging from 20% to 50% with an average of 27% for the industry.
Fact. Medicare has an administrative overhead of 3% ... and that is with medicare setting the rules for private companies to administer for them through contract.
Fact. The next highest administrative costs in industrialized nations, all of which cover all of their citizens, is Canada at 7%. And they have HUGE costs we will never face in America.
Fact. Socialized medicine only exists in 1 industrialized nation - England. The rest of the countries have doctors that work for themselves.
Fact. Medical research is alive and well outside the US. We will not suddenly become bereft of medicine if we contain costs despite what Big Pharma says.
Fact. Medical care is excellent outside the US.
Fact. In other industrialized countries parents NEVER have to decide if they will pay the rent or take little Suzy to the doctor.
Fact. One of the reasons that life ending cancer is so prevalent in the US is that most people will not see a doctor, assuming they can get an appointment, until it is too late.
Fact. We pay more for health care than any other country.
Fact. Only in America is a big cumbersome bureaucracy making medical decision that overrule doctors. In other countries medical decisions are strictly up doctors and their patients.

Fact. Given all these facts and the fact that we still aren't talking about a public option then one must conclude that either; Americans are stupid, Congress is bought and paid for, American's really hate other American's (To identify this vermin in it's natural stage listen for their call "Iain'tPayinForThatLazyBum.Iain'tPayinForThatLazyBum"), or likely a combination of all three.

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26. I wish I could nominate your post for the Greatest Page. (n/t)
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 02:55 PM
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33. Please post as OP.
And give permission to submit to newspapers.
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colsohlibgal (195 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 12:30 PM
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24. Zing!
Satire is a great vehicle for pointing out our absurdities, and are health care system is absurd to the extreme. It's insane and it's killing people.

I think the health care issue may possibly be one of those moments in time that changes the political landscape. It all depends on the will of the people.

I know I've moved Diane Feinstein up with Max Baucus on my democrats I despise list. Her " let them eat cake" moment was incredibly haughty, arrogant, and obnoxious.

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25. What the repugs I know hate most is the idea of spending one cent of THEIR
money on an undeserving "indigent" (I've heard some say as much). Screw what Jesus said about the poor; repugs HATE poor people even if they ARE poor themselves. They hate blacks and other non-whites most of all, and the thought of spending a penny on a medicine for a poor black child-a penny that they would just as soon leave on the sidewalk-fills them with rage. Modern conservatism is a mental disorder.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 01:05 PM
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27. They would rather let them die
I had a conversation with a coworker this morning. He actually feels it is OK to let people die if they can't afford insurance.

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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 01:18 PM
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29. wait, don't tell me..is he a .....republican? ( just a wild guess )
at least he's an honest one: " fuck em, let em die".....most of em try to give you some song and dance to make it not sound like they're just foul, cold-hearted bastards.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 02:21 PM
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32. He doesn't claim to be
Yet he says being liberal is bad.

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-30-09 04:32 PM
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35. Start calling him Ebenezer Scrooge
"Better they should die and reduce the surplus population," is pretty close to what Scrooge says.
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44. It's chilling to know such people, isn't it?
What's even more chilling is that their twisted beliefs are more and more accepted in today's society. Can you imagine anyone in the 70's daring to say such a thing?
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30. My response would be
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 02:13 PM by NewJeffCT
So, you prefer subsidizing tens of millions to hundreds of millions of dollars in pay and bonuses for health insurance and pharmaceutical bigwigs?

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31. K&R n.t
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34. I don't know if I'm laughing through the tears or
crying through the laughter.

But I'm getting sick and tired or TT being so right. It doesn't present Americans in a very good light. Last panel nails it.
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36. K&R
Ouch...lololol
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37. K&R
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39. lol
Let's hope the last panel ends up being just a bit too cynical!
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40. spot fucking on. nt
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42. kick
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43. This is not funny ...to those who have no health care and those who find out that...
their health insurance won't completely cover them for that catastrophic condition.
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