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Hundreds in Louisville tote guns to church. Church raffles off firearms.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jun-28-09 01:25 PM
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Hundreds in Louisville tote guns to church. Church raffles off firearms. Updated at 7:33 PM
Pastor's celebration of the Second Amendment draws crowd of 200.


Ed Reinke | The Associated Press
Liz Boyer sells a raffle ticket for a new firearm to Tom Schultz before a service in the New Bethel Church where people were invited to bring their own firearms to the sanctuary in Louisville, Ky.


Ken Pagano asked his flock to bring their unloaded handguns - in holsters - to New Bethel Church in Louisville for a celebration of the Second Amendment. When the event got under way a little after 5 p.m. Saturday, about 200 people - many carrying small firearms - sat in the Pentecostal church sanctuary.

"We are wanting to send a message that there are legal, civil, intelligent and law-abiding citizens who also own guns," Pagano said in greeting the audience, which included people who do not belong to his church.

"If it were not for a deep-seated belief in the right to bear arms, this country would not be here today," he said, drawing hearty applause and exclamations of "amen!"

Pagano says he got the idea for the event after some of his church members expressed concern about the Obama administration's views on gun control, though the president hasn't moved to put new restrictions on gun ownership. He says the gathering was meant to promote safe gun ownership. The "Open Carry Celebration" included a handgun raffle, patriotic music and screening of videos on gun safety.

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   it really boggles the mind  realisticphish   Jun-28-09 01:27 PM   #1 
   Yeah, it's unusual behavior.  KillCapitalism   Jun-29-09 01:44 AM   #31 
   Did they shoot each other? From what I have learned on here, they should all be dead  The Straight Story   Jun-28-09 01:29 PM   #2 
   Unloaded guns just go 'Click'  niceypoo   Jun-28-09 02:30 PM   #20 
      So someone checked all the guns? And does it even matter? Guns kill all, no bullets or human needed  The Straight Story   Jun-28-09 02:39 PM   #23 
         Guns don't kill people. Fox News kills people. n/t  Ian David   Jun-28-09 08:17 PM   #27 
   Why don't they all  Turbineguy   Jun-28-09 01:32 PM   #3 
   "I don't care if it rains in heaven long as I got my Smith & Wesson..."  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-28-09 01:36 PM   #4 
   How many times have you been at a religious ceremony/ritual...  dbonds   Jun-28-09 01:37 PM   #5 
   And yet nobody got shot in a wild west bloodbath.  dmallind   Jun-28-09 01:52 PM   #6 
   These people are nuts!  The_Commonist   Jun-28-09 01:53 PM   #7 
   My wife, who doesn't speak English, saw me browsing on this thread and got curious  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-28-09 02:02 PM   #13 
      That's pretty funny!  The_Commonist   Jun-28-09 02:05 PM   #15 
      I'm still trying to figure out how you *would* explain what it means.  donco6   Jun-28-09 02:18 PM   #17 
         Hm, "Crazy as excrement from bats?"  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-29-09 09:45 AM   #34 
   I believe I heard the guns were not loaded.  RagAss   Jun-28-09 01:55 PM   #8 
   that is what it says in the OP  Ocracoker16   Jun-28-09 01:56 PM   #9 
   Let 'em keep thinking Obama "will take away their guns"  MindPilot   Jun-28-09 01:58 PM   #10 
   Yup...we need them more.  RagAss   Jun-28-09 01:59 PM   #12 
   Gun Sale At The Church!  Ian David   Jun-28-09 01:58 PM   #11 
   I had to look up the lyrics...  aikoaiko   Jun-28-09 02:29 PM   #19 
   Heh heh Thanks for sharing that.  madfloridian   Jun-28-09 08:41 PM   #28 
   Now open your hymnals to "Joshua Fought the Battle of Jericho" or......  marmar   Jun-28-09 02:05 PM   #14 
   My first question when seeing this was Why did they specify unloaded? Did they not  madmom   Jun-28-09 02:15 PM   #16 
   whoops I meant to reply to the OP  aikoaiko   Jun-28-09 02:34 PM   #21 
   The republican party is a Cult  niceypoo   Jun-28-09 02:28 PM   #18 
   OMG ONOZ  aikoaiko   Jun-28-09 02:38 PM   #22 
   nutty, but as long as everyone there knows everybody else has guns, whatever  Orangepeel   Jun-28-09 02:41 PM   #24 
   Praise the lord and pass the ammo - literally!  Initech   Jun-28-09 03:21 PM   #25 
   Good one.  madfloridian   Jun-29-09 01:20 AM   #29 
   They're probably making a killing raffling off objects of worship.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-28-09 03:30 PM   #26 
   That is just fucking stupid...what idiots...nt  and-justice-for-all   Jun-29-09 01:31 AM   #30 
   Wearing your fear as a badge and calling it something else is just crazy.  Ron Green   Jun-29-09 01:57 AM   #32 
   Nothing wrong with celebrating the 2nd Amendment.  proteus_lives   Jun-29-09 02:01 AM   #33 
 
realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:27 PM
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1. it really boggles the mind
I own guns, have done my whole life.

But where the FUCK does a pastor get the impression that it's following in Jesus' footsteps to encourage people to bring guns to church?
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KillCapitalism (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 01:44 AM
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31. Yeah, it's unusual behavior.
It's fine to own guns b/c it's a right, but when you openly wear one around in public, it's like saying "Don't fuck with me or I'll shoot you."
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:29 PM
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2. Did they shoot each other? From what I have learned on here, they should all be dead
or robbing each other, accidentally blowing the heads of their kids etc.

Any gun will cause this, because guns are really aliens with a mind of their own...
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niceypoo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 02:30 PM
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20. Unloaded guns just go 'Click'
Next time read beyond the caption
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 02:39 PM
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23. So someone checked all the guns? And does it even matter? Guns kill all, no bullets or human needed
:)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 08:17 PM
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27. Guns don't kill people. Fox News kills people. n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:32 PM
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3. Why don't they all
show up naked?

More interesting by far.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jun-28-09 01:36 PM
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4. "I don't care if it rains in heaven long as I got my Smith & Wesson..."
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dbonds (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:37 PM
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5. How many times have you been at a religious ceremony/ritual...
Feeling the spirit, the oneness of everything, that love means everything is connected, and thought - 'What would really help this moment, a gun'.
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:52 PM
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6. And yet nobody got shot in a wild west bloodbath.
I thought lots of guns in the hands of normal folks led to blood-soaked carnage on the streets?
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The_Commonist Donating Member (675 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jun-28-09 01:53 PM
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7. These people are nuts!
Seriously... over the top, batshit crazy!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 02:02 PM
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13. My wife, who doesn't speak English, saw me browsing on this thread and got curious
about what "batshit crazy" means. I explained it (the literal translation amused her a lot). Then I told why was it used. She says, "Wow. In this context, it makes a LOT of sense."

Wise, she is.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (675 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jun-28-09 02:05 PM
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15. That's pretty funny!
Thanks for sharing that story...
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jun-28-09 02:18 PM
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17. I'm still trying to figure out how you *would* explain what it means.
American idioms can be really confusing. But it's hilarious she would ask about that.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jun-29-09 09:45 AM
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34. Hm, "Crazy as excrement from bats?"
I tried.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:55 PM
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8. I believe I heard the guns were not loaded.
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9. that is what it says in the OP
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10. Let 'em keep thinking Obama "will take away their guns"
in the meantime all us gun-totin' liberals will keep ours. :evilgrin:
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:59 PM
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12. Yup...we need them more.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 01:58 PM
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11. Gun Sale At The Church!
Gun Sale at the Church
Topic started by IanDB1 on Jul-12-08 06:48 PM (3 replies)
Last modified by Wickerman on Jul-12-08 10:37 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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19. I had to look up the lyrics...
...


Gun Sale At The Church
(Written by Buddy Blue)

Well let's pack up the kids
and take a break, get away
leave the hustle and bustle
of living from day to day
and I know that the crime
in the city is getting worse

So I'm going on down to
the gun sale at the church

Well my lady's all set
to have us a real good time
Baby Johnny got fins
but he don't seem to mind
so the family’s all ready
to pray at the holy perch

That's set up in the middle of
the gun sale at the church

Well we'll ask the lord to
forgive us for all our sins
and we'll look at the latest in
gold plated firing pins

Well my two main men are
Jesus and old John Birch

So I'm going on down to
the gun sale at the church

Well we'll ask the lord to
forgive us for all our sins
and we'll look at the latest in
gold plated firing pins

Well let's pack up the kids
and take a break, get away
leave the hustle and bustle
of living from day to day
and I know that the crime
in the city is getting worse

So I'm going on down to
the gun sale at the church

So I'm going on down to
the gun sale at the church

So I'm going on down to
the gun sale at the church
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jun-28-09 08:41 PM
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28. Heh heh Thanks for sharing that. Updated at 7:33 PM
Never heard it before.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 02:05 PM
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14. Now open your hymnals to "Joshua Fought the Battle of Jericho" or......Updated at 7:59 PM
.... I'LL BLOW YOUR F**KING HEAD OFF!
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 02:15 PM
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16. My first question when seeing this was Why did they specify unloaded? Did they notUpdated at 12:25 PM
trust their parishioners?
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21. whoops I meant to reply to the OP
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 02:38 PM by aikoaiko


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18. The republican party is a Cult
They have lost sight of where republican ends and where Christianity begins.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jun-28-09 02:38 PM
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22. OMG ONOZ


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24. nutty, but as long as everyone there knows everybody else has guns, whatever
I'm all for letting crazy people voluntarily associate with each other, as long as it is somewhere other than where I am.
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25. Praise the lord and pass the ammo - literally!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Jun-29-09 01:20 AM
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29. Good one.Updated at 7:33 PM
:hi:
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26. They're probably making a killing raffling off objects of worship.
It's one of those "bad pun" days. :spank:
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30. That is just fucking stupid...what idiots...nt
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32. Wearing your fear as a badge and calling it something else is just crazy.
I bet everyone there was white.
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33. Nothing wrong with celebrating the 2nd Amendment.
Everyone was was safe and I don't think it's negative.

I wish they would get over the whole "Obama is going to take my guns" thing though.

Either then that, I would go to an event like this in my town to see what they're saying.
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