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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:28 PM
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US Is One Of Only Three Developed Nations Without Universal Healthcare For All
by architek, Mon Mar 09, 2009 at 06:27:07 PM EST

Salon has a good article about the ugliness of the US healthcare situation and how it could possibly be this way.

It's entitled "The questions our healthcare debate ignores".

"Last month, the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development issued the latest in a long series of reports on our wasteful and cruel practices that ought to awaken a sense of national embarrassment."

DEPRESSING fact that is mentioned NUMBER ONE: "Among the OECD's 30 members -- which include Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, the Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom -- there are only three lacking universal health coverage. The other two happen to be Mexico and Turkey, which have the excuse of being poorer than the rest (and until the onset of the world economic crisis, Mexico was on the way to providing healthcare to all of its citizens). The third, of course, is us."

Here is the actual report from the OECD web site:
http://www.olis.oecd.org/olis/2009doc.nsf/LinkTo/NT0000...

More: http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/3/9/18277/26800
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:34 PM
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1. Wow! Foreigners might get a mistaken impression...
They might look at the fact that tens of millions are incarcerated and have limited or no access to normally accepted standards of health (including dental) care and accidentally make the leap that we are being ignored, abused and flogged by leaders that only have a vestigial sense of responsibility here in the good old US of A. They might not know that we are still the greatest and gosh darn free-est nation on the face of God's green earth!
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:37 PM
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3. Yeah...we have the freedom to publicly complain about not having free health care
Who wouldn't want that?
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:35 PM
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2. Even Cuba has health care for all
And no matter how bad the right wing says universal or "socialized" medicine is, it's worse when you have nothing. Even if you do have health insurance if you happen to get a serious or long term illness you still will need to hire a bankruptcy attorney.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:42 PM
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4. We don't need it! Boot straps pulled up and all. Not for all.
No, I, uh, don't get it...
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:44 PM
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5. the health care story tells the truth about America
We are ruled by a rabid, vicious form of capitalism that has been honed by republicans for over 30 years.

The fact that America has the health care system that it does says everything about the values of this country. It says you the person doesn't matter one bit: only your ability to pay has merit.



Cher

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:47 PM
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11. The answer is easy, we just need a lot more of us to become murdering thugs.
They have lots of money and they can afford health care.

If only more of us would learn this lesson we could make America the paradise visualized by our founding Bosses, and we would reduce the surplus population to boot!

Wake up America! Buy guns and go get what you need from those with more! Spread the fear! It's the American way!


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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:27 PM
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12. I WOULDN'T HAVE HEART DISEASE IF ...
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:01 PM
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6. And Americans should be disgusted
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:07 PM
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7. Yes we should be ashamed
it is acceptable for people to say we do not need health care for all because they have theirs.
This is life and death stuff and American politicans have taken refuge in selfishness.

Thanks for all your good posts on this subject this evening.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:10 PM
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8. K & R. n/t
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:28 PM
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9. Switzerland doesn't. Only 99.5% insured. Subsidies for poor; individuals purchase insurance.
http://healthcare-economist.com/2008/04/23/health-care-... /
I have already written about Switzerland in previous posts (see Swiss Healthcare Sytem: Part I, and Part II). Still of all the countries with universal health care, Switzerlands is the most market-oriented and merits discussion. Switzerlands health care spending as a percentage of GDP is second only behind the U.S. (11.6% of GDP for Switzerland, 15.3% for the U.S. according to Frontline), yet the government pays for very little of this funding. The Swiss system is similar to the managed competition health care plan proposed by the Clintons in the early 1990s.

Percent Insured. 99.5%. Does this mean a mandated system system would lead to universal coverage in the U.S? This is unlikely. In Switzerland, a mandate for auto insurance has nearly 100% compliance, but in the U.S. the auto insurance mandates compliance rate is only around 83%.

Funding. Insurance is purchased by individuals. Individuals generally must pay the full cost of premiums, but the government helps to finance insurance purchases for the poor. These subsidies are designed to prevent any individual from having to pay more than 10 percent of income on insurance, and one third of Swiss citizens receive this type of subsidy. Thus, the Swiss government only pays for 24.9% of health care costs (compared with 44.7% in the U.S.).
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:30 PM
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10. See! We're still better than Mexico! And Turkey to boot!
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Fuck Yeah!


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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:32 PM
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13. This is old news though
We've been the only wealthy country w/o UHC for a decade or more. In fact many of the countries we consider ourselves 'better than' are doing more to promote UHC than we are. Some developing nations are starting to surpass us on human rights and health care coverage.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:29 PM
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14. K&R - And Thank You - n/t
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:53 AM
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15. That's why we are a second class nation.
We are quickly on our way to 3rd world status due to the failures of mostly unregulated capitalism.

We still could have been top dog like we were right after WW2 if we would have set up a single payer system like Great Britain did. Also, if unions could have remained strong & capitalism strongly regulated all these years, there would be far less poverty and illness.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:59 AM
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16. K&R
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:24 AM
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17. Kick..nt
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:22 AM
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18. We're not fully developed -- we're still in adolescence. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:17 PM
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20. Oscar Wilde agrees.
"America is the first country to have gone from barbarism to decadence without the usual intervening period of civilization." - Oscar Wilde
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:14 PM
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19. Kick!
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