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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:26 PM
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La Liza: 'All Hell Will Break Loose' After Jackson's Autopsy
http://www.popeater.com/music/article/liza-discusses-mi...


I agree with La Liza. Shit gonna hit the FAN!
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   Now I'm worried. Remember all the chaos & bloodshed after Anna Nicole's autopsy?  Bucky   Jun-26-09 03:29 PM   #1 
   I still have a scar from the ANS riots.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-26-09 03:31 PM   #6 
      Oh God.  Dappleganger   Jun-26-09 03:35 PM   #12 
      Picture it! West Hollywood the day of ANS results.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-26-09 03:51 PM   #24 
         OMG!  Dappleganger   Jun-26-09 03:55 PM   #26 
         Can I be your hag?  XemaSab   Jun-26-09 05:06 PM   #42 
         oh god Ronny  Terran   Jun-26-09 05:47 PM   #43 
         If I ever make a trip out there, can I hang out with you for a day or two?  mtnester   Jun-26-09 05:51 PM   #44 
         !  tekisui   Jun-26-09 07:03 PM   #51 
         Awesome!  KamaAina   Jun-26-09 07:17 PM   #52 
         If that is not  Patsy Stone   Jun-26-09 07:51 PM   #62 
         OMG. Wounded in 'the ANS riots.' & I thought you were joking. Great story, wonderfully told.  Garbo 2004   Jun-27-09 05:06 AM   #69 
      Love me some crazy drag queens.  sarcasmo   Jun-26-09 07:24 PM   #55 
   I find that remark curious...  KatyMan   Jun-26-09 03:29 PM   #2 
   We'll find out about all the drugs  tishaLA   Jun-26-09 03:33 PM   #8 
   I'm a My Space friend of Lisa Marie Presley ...  ronnykmarshall   Jun-26-09 03:40 PM   #17 
      Wow. That's quite a post  crispini   Jun-26-09 03:56 PM   #27 
      Joe Jackson is suspect #1.  Wizard777   Jun-26-09 04:07 PM   #30 
      "I wanted to 'save him' " No, she wanted him to join her cult. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jun-26-09 04:13 PM   #31 
      Perhaps she thought Scientology would save him  sweetpotato   Jun-26-09 04:18 PM   #32 
      There was no thinking involved. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jun-26-09 04:37 PM   #39 
      I had the same thought!  get the red out   Jun-26-09 04:24 PM   #35 
      This makes me think a bit more of Lisa Marie Presley, that's for sure  Missy Vixen   Jun-26-09 04:20 PM   #34 
      I haven't cried until now  merh   Jun-26-09 04:25 PM   #36 
      A question. How would you know that this MySpace friend is really LMP?  LuckyLib   Jun-26-09 04:39 PM   #40 
      Her offical website links to that My Space account.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-26-09 06:10 PM   #46 
         Thanks. I'm techno-ignorant, so appreciate the information!  LuckyLib   Jun-26-09 08:01 PM   #66 
      Survivor's guilt, warranted or otherwise, truly sucks. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jun-26-09 05:52 PM   #45 
      Amen to that. n/t  Kitty Herder   Jun-26-09 06:55 PM   #50 
      Thanks for posting that, Ronny.  peacefreak   Jun-26-09 06:10 PM   #47 
      Shit, now I'm crying.  Kitty Herder   Jun-26-09 06:55 PM   #49 
      Wow. Thank you for posting that. Consider an OP? That's very powerful  omega minimo   Jun-26-09 07:24 PM   #54 
   Liza and I know ...  ronnykmarshall   Jun-26-09 03:34 PM   #9 
   I wondered about that  get the red out   Jun-26-09 03:45 PM   #21 
      Seriously  XemaSab   Jun-26-09 04:02 PM   #28 
   I expect a cocktail of drugs so expansive that Keith Richards will say, "WHAT THE FUCK???" n/t  WeDidIt   Jun-26-09 03:30 PM   #3 
   Oh THAT is DUZY material!  ronnykmarshall   Jun-26-09 03:33 PM   #7 
   Another one that Keith Richards  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-26-09 03:36 PM   #13 
      Keith's already been embalmed, several times over ...  Myrina   Jun-26-09 03:39 PM   #16 
         Keith will purchase a planet, and change his name to Flint. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-26-09 03:41 PM   #18 
   Although he was an entertainer and of course subject to all the entertainer cosmetic stuff..  MichiganVote   Jun-26-09 03:30 PM   #4 
   I think he was probably gay  XemaSab   Jun-26-09 03:34 PM   #10 
      Sure are a lot of unknowns in view of all the heavy press he's had for years.  MichiganVote   Jun-26-09 03:36 PM   #14 
      I got the sense he was asexual, but  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-26-09 03:38 PM   #15 
      I was thinking about that all day yesterday. Very, very sad.  EFerrari   Jun-26-09 03:42 PM   #19 
      For a long time I wondered if he was a castrato. By his father, to keep the young voice longer.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-26-09 03:43 PM   #20 
      I wouldn't put it past his father  get the red out   Jun-26-09 03:49 PM   #22 
      Holy shit. Yeah, I was thinking "sex change" or something but what you said...  ContinentalOp   Jun-26-09 04:27 PM   #37 
      I thought pedophiles were just that.  walkaway   Jun-26-09 03:50 PM   #23 
      Being gay in a Jehovah's Witnesses family would tend to  kestrel91316   Jun-26-09 03:54 PM   #25 
   I expect he has been using all these years  Taverner   Jun-26-09 03:31 PM   #5 
   It already has ..........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-26-09 03:35 PM   #11 
   What is your speculation, Ronny?  XemaSab   Jun-26-09 04:03 PM   #29 
   A TON of drugs.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-26-09 04:19 PM   #33 
   He was a SHE???? OMG....whad are dey saying???  opihimoimoi   Jun-26-09 04:31 PM   #38 
   Sure, especially after it is learned how lonely life can be in spite of fame & fortune...  bridgit   Jun-26-09 04:53 PM   #41 
   I saw an interview this afternoon,  Holly_Hobby   Jun-26-09 06:41 PM   #48 
   Why? Result of drugs? big whoop  JanMichael   Jun-26-09 07:18 PM   #53 
   My eyes! My eyes!  gauguin57   Jun-26-09 07:37 PM   #56 
   Strange that Elizabeth Taylor hasn't made a statement.  Cleita   Jun-26-09 07:43 PM   #58 
      She did. CNN played it during the noon (Pacific time) hour. (n/t)  4lbs   Jun-26-09 07:44 PM   #60 
         I never watch CNN. What did she say? n/t  Cleita   Jun-26-09 07:48 PM   #61 
            I don't recall the exact words. I was channel flipping and noticed her picture, her name, and words  4lbs   Jun-26-09 07:56 PM   #64 
            per anderson cooper, she tweeted  merh   Jun-27-09 01:04 AM   #67 
   liza is nuttier than michael was  spanone   Jun-26-09 07:38 PM   #57 
   Supposedly he got addicted to Demerol after he suffered that serious burn in the 1980s while filming  4lbs   Jun-26-09 07:44 PM   #59 
   Who cares?  Clintonista2   Jun-26-09 07:51 PM   #63 
   You're right, but it's largely because  reflection   Jun-26-09 08:00 PM   #65 
   In 2 weeks? Nobody will give a shit  DatManFromNawlins   Jun-27-09 02:22 AM   #68 
 
Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:29 PM
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1. Now I'm worried. Remember all the chaos & bloodshed after Anna Nicole's autopsy?
This is gonna be worse that the Belushi riots. I'm going down into my bunker till the national guard can put the fires out.
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:31 PM
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6. I still have a scar from the ANS riots.
Fucking crazy drag queen tryed to throw a pump at Bobbie Trendy and missed.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:35 PM
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12. Oh God.
Please tell the story!
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:51 PM
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24. Picture it! West Hollywood the day of ANS results.
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 03:54 PM by ronnykmarshall
I'm minding m' own goddamn bizzness, walking down Santa Monica Blvd when the news broke. This 6-3 drag queen started screaming at the top of her lungs at the TV that was on at Rage (a night club). Then that little snot Bobbie Trendy and arch enemy of Anna Nicole's walked in. The DQ took one look at La Trendy and went crazy. She started screaming "Get your fucking ASS out of here you little lying mother FUCKER!"

Trendy, being the giant fuck wad that he is started mouthing off and threw a drink at the drag queen and turn to leave. The DQ took off BOTH of her pumps the flung them at the back of La Trendy's pointed little head. The fucker DUCKED right before the shoes would have hopefully crushed his skull. One pump smashed into a window and the other hit a wall and flew sideways out the front door just as I was walking by mindin' m' own goddamn bizness. The heel just missed my right eye and left a 4 inch gash across the side of my head.

I'm actually very proud of the scar.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:55 PM
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26. OMG!
Damn those high heel missiles!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 05:06 PM
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42. Can I be your hag?
:shrug: ;)
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Terran (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 05:47 PM
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43. oh god Ronny
that is too friggin VIVID for words! I hope you write for a living.

:rofl:
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 05:51 PM
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44. If I ever make a trip out there, can I hang out with you for a day or two?
I love how you got to the point and told the whole story in two short paragraphs, but the complete immagery was there

Is your life normally this "boring?" :)
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:03 PM
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51. !
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: That Is Too Much!!!
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KamaAina (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:17 PM
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52. Awesome!
:yourock:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 07:51 PM
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62. If that is not
the best story ever, I don't know what is. :toast:, sweetie!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-27-09 05:06 AM
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69. OMG. Wounded in 'the ANS riots.' & I thought you were joking. Great story, wonderfully told.
:rofl:

:toast:
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55. Love me some crazy drag queens.
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KatyMan Donating Member (912 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:29 PM
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2. I find that remark curious...
in what way will it hit the fan?
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 03:33 PM
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8. We'll find out about all the drugs
and the fact that he had his own Col Parker.
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:40 PM
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17. I'm a My Space friend of Lisa Marie Presley ...
here's what she wrote today. She seems really upset about MJ's death.

Friday, June 26, 2009
He Knew.

Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.

I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."

I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.

14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.

A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.

The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.

All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.

Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.

I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.

His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.

At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.

He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.

When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.

Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.

I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.

I was in over my head while trying.

I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.

The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.

After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.

Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.

At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.

As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.

Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.

He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.

I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.

He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.

I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.

The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.

I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.

~LMP

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:56 PM
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27. Wow. That's quite a post
That's actually pretty amazing -- the honesty is very much in-your-face. You go girl! Wow. Bless her.
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:07 PM
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30. Joe Jackson is suspect #1.
The Doctor was from Vegas and the news was reporting that Joe was flying in from Vegas. Hmmmm......
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:13 PM
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31. "I wanted to 'save him' " No, she wanted him to join her cult. n/t
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:18 PM
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32. Perhaps she thought Scientology would save him
Misguided, but perhaps her heart was in the right place?
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39. There was no thinking involved. n/t
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:24 PM
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35. I had the same thought!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 04:20 PM
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34. This makes me think a bit more of Lisa Marie Presley, that's for sure
Those of us who don't live in the media "bubble" probably can't even imagine what life is like for those who do.

Of course, IMHO, YMMV.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:25 PM
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36. I haven't cried until now
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 04:28 PM by merh
She puts it into such perspective.

thank you for posting this.

edited: Please thank her for writing this and offer her my cyber hugs.

:cry:

he is indeed free.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 04:39 PM
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40. A question. How would you know that this MySpace friend is really LMP?
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 06:10 PM
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46. Her offical website links to that My Space account.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 08:01 PM
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66. Thanks. I'm techno-ignorant, so appreciate the information!
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45. Survivor's guilt, warranted or otherwise, truly sucks. (nt)
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 06:55 PM
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50. Amen to that. n/t
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 06:10 PM
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47. Thanks for posting that, Ronny.
It's easy to forget that celebrities are people with the same joys & sorrows we do. I hope she finds some peace in all this.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 06:55 PM
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49. Shit, now I'm crying.
Poignant words from Lisa Marie. She couldn't save her father, so as an adult she tried to save another man she loved.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:24 PM
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54. Wow. Thank you for posting that. Consider an OP? That's very powerful
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:34 PM
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9. Liza and I know ...
ain't tellin'!
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:45 PM
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21. I wondered about that
The idea that someone (especially a celebrity) was a drug addict isn't all that sensational. People are guessing at that right now. What would cause something to "hit the fan"?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:02 PM
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28. Seriously
I can't think of a recreational drug that would be shocking like that...

Meth, crack, opiates... they would be sad, but not SHOCKING. :shrug:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:30 PM
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3. I expect a cocktail of drugs so expansive that Keith Richards will say, "WHAT THE FUCK???" n/t
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:33 PM
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7. Oh THAT is DUZY material!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:36 PM
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13. Another one that Keith Richards
outlived.

This is getting profound..................
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:39 PM
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16. Keith's already been embalmed, several times over ...
... with distilled liquids, among other things ... ;-)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:41 PM
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18. Keith will purchase a planet, and change his name to Flint. -nt
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 03:30 PM
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4. Although he was an entertainer and of course subject to all the entertainer cosmetic stuff..
I used to wonder if MJ in his later years was flirting with a transvestite identity.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:34 PM
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10. I think he was probably gay
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 03:36 PM by XemaSab
Sad. :(

(And since this is DU, it's NOT sad that he was probably gay, it's sad that he either was in denial about it or felt he had to be deeply closeted.)
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 03:36 PM
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14. Sure are a lot of unknowns in view of all the heavy press he's had for years.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:38 PM
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15. I got the sense he was asexual, but
I can see the gay thing, too. I think sexuality was an impossible thing for him, and his fear of being outed as anything probably twisted him up in terrible, self-mutilating ways.

Tortured soul ...............
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:42 PM
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19. I was thinking about that all day yesterday. Very, very sad.
:(
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:43 PM
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20. For a long time I wondered if he was a castrato. By his father, to keep the young voice longer.
20th century's Farinelli.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:49 PM
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22. I wouldn't put it past his father
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:27 PM
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37. Holy shit. Yeah, I was thinking "sex change" or something but what you said...
sadly makes a lot of sense.
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walkaway (725 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:50 PM
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23. I thought pedophiles were just that.
They weren't hetro or homosexuals. They got their rocks off sleeping with children.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:54 PM
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25. Being gay in a Jehovah's Witnesses family would tend to
be problematic and mess a person up but good.

I wonder how his life would have turned out (if he were gay or TG) if he had been totally loved and accepted for who he was, and encouraged to be the person he wanted to be.........
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:31 PM
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5. I expect he has been using all these years
Shit, If I were him I would too
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 03:35 PM
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11. It already has ..........
Did you see the Maureen Orth interview this morning? It's here - http://tinyurl.com/mbvc5l - and the really comprehensive article she wrote about Jacko for Vanity Fair in 2005 is here - http://tinyurl.com/nqpnfm

The story now is that his personal physician had just shot him (Jacko) up with Demerol when he started having trouble breathing, collapsed, and then died. Demerol is a hell of a drug, and if you shoot it into someone who's already anorectic, you're in dangerous territory.

Apparently, there were very few places left on Jacko's body where injections could be done successfully. He had his own M.D. living with him, and now the guy's on the lam.

It's gonna be even more surreal than Jacko's life was, I think ..................
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:03 PM
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29. What is your speculation, Ronny?
:shrug:
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:19 PM
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33. A TON of drugs.
And probably a lethal dose that killed him.
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:31 PM
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38. He was a SHE???? OMG....whad are dey saying???
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 04:53 PM
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41. Sure, especially after it is learned how lonely life can be in spite of fame & fortune...
Used to see it all the time working in the industry down in LA, played 'den/tour mother' with many music peeps from recently showcased talent that very night (artists can be skittish, a good review and a cash advance everyone's high but soon the rabbits are running :(), to execs that wouldn't come out of their suites to walk, talk, grip, grin, and sign contracts...Contemporaneously, it reminded me of Heath Ledger too much. Too many people too much; just up in there sorting through bottles & bindle's that others push into your orbit; what in the end turns out to be, in spite of it all, your personalized little orbit with one little planet and BAM!

You gone ~ but there will always be someone around to point fingers


Often Is A Word I Seldom Use

I know that you're sad
I know that you're lonely
you lie awake 'till way past when
I want you to know
that I'm leaving you only
'cause I might not get the chance again.

I'm cold and I'm tired
and I can't stop coughing
long enough to tell you all of the news
I'd like to tell you
that I'll see you more often
but often is a word I seldom use
often is a word I seldom use.

Tell me, where did the weekend go?
Tell me, where did the weekend go?
Went like thunder, felt like snow.
Went like thunder, felt like snow.

You must think my life's a circus
watching me laughing
and slapping my thighs
how'd ya like to die
in the house of mirrors
with nobody around to close your eyes.

Going down to the Greyhound station
going back home
and get what's mine
got me a date
with the ten o'clock special
gonna be there at a quarter to nine.


John Prine
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 06:41 PM
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48. I saw an interview this afternoon,
don't remember if CNN, MSNBC or HLN. It was a former MJ publicist, an older guy. He said MJ could no longer sing, as his nose had collapsed from all of the surgeries, a couldn't breathe through his nose anymore.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:18 PM
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53. Why? Result of drugs? big whoop
shit isn't going to hit the fan, or make anyone like him less.
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:37 PM
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56. My eyes! My eyes!
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 07:37 PM by gauguin57

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:43 PM
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58. Strange that Elizabeth Taylor hasn't made a statement.
She was pretty close to Jacko as well as Liza.
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:44 PM
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60. She did. CNN played it during the noon (Pacific time) hour. (n/t)
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 07:44 PM by 4lbs
.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:48 PM
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61. I never watch CNN. What did she say? n/t
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:56 PM
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64. I don't recall the exact words. I was channel flipping and noticed her picture, her name, and words
on the screen.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-27-09 01:04 AM
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67. per anderson cooper, she tweeted
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-26-09 07:38 PM
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57. liza is nuttier than michael was
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:44 PM
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59. Supposedly he got addicted to Demerol after he suffered that serious burn in the 1980s while filming
the Pepsi commercial. He was also said to have been taking it regularly for the past 20 years.

Add in what some think is another drug he was being given by his doctor, one that is often used in surgery as an anesthetic, and the two could have combined to produce an adverse reaction.

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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-26-09 07:51 PM
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63. Who cares?
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65. You're right, but it's largely because
he was sitting on $400M of debt when he died. The owners of that debt are going to start jockeying for position quick.
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DatManFromNawlins (372 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-27-09 02:22 AM
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68. In 2 weeks? Nobody will give a shit
By that time, Michael Jackson will be reduced to a scrolling blurb across the bottom of your TEEVEE set.
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