Comparing Bush and Obama, why I'm so sick of people bashing Obama

[loyalkydem]

keep seeing threads on Democratic Underground saying that people are unhappy with what the President is doing with his job performance. Many are unhappy with where the economy is right now.

Let me say this, STOP CRITICICING THE DAMN MAN. We didn’t get in this situation over night and we’re not going to get out of this situation over night either. I keep seeing posts from people that say Obama equals Bush.

If you must criticize don’t compare the President to Bush. From what I’ve seen, the man is thirty times better than Bush. Most of the decisions you’ve seen coming from his office are from those people with loyalties to Bush. While I do not like some of the decisions they made, I still support the President in his efforts to clean up what was left of the mess that is George W. Bush.

It seems like people aren’t going to be happy unless they blame the President for something. The man’s doing the best he can with what he has and he’s not going to solve it over night.

Here’s a list of his accomplishments since he took office back in January.

Civil Rights
Jan. 29 2009 – Obama signs the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Reducing discrimination based on gender, age, religion, or race. (source)
Environmental
Feb. 21 2009 – Obama signs a mercury reduction pact with 140 other nations. The policy reverses roles with George Bush and sets mandatory requirements by the United States. (source)
Mar. 30 2009 – Obama signs the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009, which serves to protect two million acres of land and creates a new system of land conservation for the Bureau of Land Management. (source)
May 19 2009 – Obama teams up with the auto industry to raise the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards to an average of 35.5 mpg by 2016. The program is reported to save up to 1.8 billion barrels of oil or 900 million tons of greenhouse gases. (source)
Foreign Policy
April 2 2009 – Obama helps form a compromise between Presidents of France (Sarkozy) and China (Jintao) over making tax havens more transparent. The two Presidents were in a “heated” argument previous to Obama’s intervention. (source)
Government Reform
Jan. 27 2009 – Administration tells Citigroup bank it is “unacceptable” to pay for a $42 million dollar luxury jet when they have received $45 billion in bailouts from taxpayers. (source)
Feb. 19 2009 – Bans the exception of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars from accounting the deficit. This results in a 2.5 trillion dollar increase in calculated deficit to the United States. (source)
Feb. 23 2009 – Announces Earl Devaney to oversee the oversight of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Mr. Devaney worked as a Secret Service agent who exposed lobbist corruption in the Department of the Interior. (source)
Mar. 9 2009 – Lifts ban on embryonic stem cell research. A major move in changing the politics of research and science in the United States. (source)
May 22, 2009 – Creates a credit card bill of rights. Limits unwarranted spending and gives consumers more options to pay their bills on time. It has been debated if this will negatively affect the industry. (source)
May 22, 2009 – Tries to curb wasteful spending by the Pentagon on the defense budget by signing the Weapons System Acquisition Reform Act. Intended to price contracts and budgets lower; may potentially save billions of dollars in defense. (source)
Humanitarian
Jan. 23 2009 – Obama orders the close of Guantanamo Bay facility (source)
PERSONAL DISAGREEMENTS
Policies or agendas of Obama that strongly confront with my personal beliefs, policies, agenda.
Health Care
A younger Barack Obama had once said “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care plan,” but now that he is in office, Obama is mainstreaming the center aisle. Now he says he has three priorities to health care reform: control costs across the system, provide coverage for all people, and work with the current system. However, as Bill Moyer points out, each time the government threatens to step in, the industry backs off until we forget. A single-payer system is the only REAL solution. For conservatives concerned about the costs of the syystem, listen carefully, a single payer sytem WILL be cheaper. Americans are the highest paying per capita than any other country; more than double of countries with similar systems. Not to mention, we are the ONLY developed nation without a single-payer-esqe system. I stand behind the younger Barack Obama and House Resolution 676 for passage.
Support for my beliefs:
Sicko
Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP): Frequently Asked Questions
Healthcare-NOW! (sign the petition)
Drug Policy
Despite Eric Holder correctly acknowledging that the use of marijuana for medical purposes is a states issue (source), Obama laughed at the idea of legalizing marijuana and the prospects of taxing the product to help the economy (source). Furthermore, he goes on to say at a questions forum “there was one question that was voted on that ranked fairly high and that was whether legalizing marijuana would improve the economy and job creation, and I don’t know what this says about the online audience.” Excuse me, but this online audience was the reason you were able to reach the $500,000,000 mark during your campaign. If that was not enough, a few days later, for the first time, Robert Gibbs makes a fool of himself when he cannot explain the reasoning behind the President’s position (source). Praise should be given to his drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske, for stating we need to end the “war on drugs” due to fact that treatment works better than incarceration (source), but only little progress has been made towards fixing the problem.
Source: http://www.knowtheblog.org/blog/archives/59

Curious about Bush’s accomplishments I decided to research his accomplishments

Attacked and took over two countries.
* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.
* Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
*Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.
* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
* Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in US history.
* Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
* First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
* First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
* Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.
* Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).
* All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
* My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
* Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
* First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* First US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
* With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
* First US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
* Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
* In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
* Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.
* In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.
* Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.


Now, you tell me who is doing the better job. Stop freeking complaining about President Obama and give the man the time he needs to pull us out of this shit hole Bush put us in.

[Party Person]

1. The Obama bashing needs to stop, and it needs to stop now

[tekisui]

3. I thought you were leaving.

:shrug:

[Party Person]

12. no, I'm staying

If you read my Goodbye Thread you'll see that I've decided to forgive DU and stay.

[tekisui]

13. !

:rofl:

How magnanimous of you!

[laylah]

39. my thought exactly...

:rofl:

[patriotvoice]

19. Wow. Joined on June 19th, have 74 posts, and you had to have a "Goodbye Thread"

in which you recanted! Talk about a quivering ego.

[konnichi wa]

30. How nice for us.

:eyes:

[Autumn]

34. Does that mean DU isn't perfect,

just forgiven? Sounds familiar. By the way welcome to DU

[spiritual_gunfighter]

38. If you think you need to "forgive DU"

maybe you should think about leaving anyway.

[uppityperson]

42. No, you aren't staying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=241974

[Cha]

51. That was a short party..

[lunatica]

44. It's your fucken choice

Please, don't forgive me because, ya know, I haven't sinned against you! As for people using expletives to respond to you, please count me in.

[zipplewrath]

5. No, it needs to lose hyperbole

Criticism isn't ever going to be popular, nor perfect. But the "bashing" doesn't need to stop, it just needs to stay constructive and realistic. Realistic in the sense of losing the hyperbole and even remembering to place it in the perspective of "bush was worse".

[MNBrewer]

10. I'll criticize Obama when I think he needs criticism.

Has everything he's done since the election been beyond reproach?

HELL no. Not in my opinion.

On those things where I believe he's wrong, I'll speak out, as is my right, HERE and everywhere.

[madokie]

11. I think it should be

its a privilege to post here, not it's a right to post here.

[MNBrewer]

45. As long as I obey the agreed upon rules,

As long as I obey the agreed upon rules (and as far as I can tell criticizing the President, even if he IS a Democrat, is ok), I'll continue to do what I've always done.

[QC]

24. I thought you had left in a huff just last night. n/t

[Greyhound]

46. Oh well then, since you're the new "decider", I guess we had all just better get in line and STFU.

:eyes:

[goclark]

50. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[zipplewrath]

2. Good job

I'm not quite as upset as you, but I agree with you that it is a bit of over the top hyperbole to compare Obama to Bush. My list of complaints might be a bit longer than yours, but I found your post to be the best of the "cheerleaders". Really, I don't particularly consider it a cheerleading post at all. About the only quibble I'd have with your post is that my list of complainst might be on issues that where a bit more "substantial" in my mind than some of your "compliments" in your list. By that what I mean is that it's nice that he has signed a bunch of the orders he did, and going after tax cheats, etc. I'm not sure that is comparable to letting the tortures off the hook, or dragging his feet on GLBT civils rights. But on the whole, your's is one of the more "balanced" support posts I've seen. Even more balanced than most of the critical posts I've seen as well.

[MannyGoldstein]

4. Bush Was Better Than Stalin

I'm not sure that "better than" is the best measure for these kinds of things.

Look: Obama made promises, it's fair for us to expect him to honor them.

[zipplewrath]

8. Yes, exactly

Bush set the bar pretty low, and I don't want Obama "measured" by that bar. We need to hold him to the standard HE set, not Bush. I do think it is true though that criticism needs to be balanced a touch with a reality that it is useful that we have someone in office doing SOME of the things we need.

[spooked911]

22. that's right

his "prolonged detention" proposal is deeply un-American-- he really lost me there

[tekisui]

6. There is no comparison to chimpy.

Obama is his own man, his own president. He is a good president, I wish him to be a great president.

The problem is any honest criticism of policy decisions he has made are inevitably seen as 'bashing' to some.

[lpbk2713]

37. Shit-for-Brains was a momma's boy ... among other things.

He constantly needed guidance from both parents and yet he still fucked up at every turn.

Obama is his own man and he has always been able to stand on his own two feet.

[Psychic Consortium]

7. You are 100% correct.

Obama is doing a very good job considering what he is up against.
And he needs time to accomplish his goals.

[madrchsod]

9. no can do...

he`s not bush and anyone who claims he is a fool but his continuation of some of the more odorous bush policies makes me question his loyalties. is it to the people who elected him or the entrenched bureaucrats in the government and his advisers who seeks personal gain from their positions?
in my opinion he listens to those around him who have no loyalty to the american people. if he continues on this path he`ll loose the house and any hopes of 60 votes in the senate.

[TexasObserver]

14. I'm not comparing him to Bush, but to the leadership he promised.

I'm comparing him to Clinton, Carter, and JFK, not Bush, not Reagan, not Ford, not Nixon.

When he adopts and promotes bad policies that Bush originated, I criticize him for that.

You present a false dichotomy - a straw man. Most who criticize Obama here do not suggest that he is like Bush. They criticize him for failing to support Democratic policies, and for supporting bad Bush policies. Your comments fail to address the very real and deserved criticisms that Democrats of longstanding find with the president's actions or inactions. As a lifelong Democrat, I can say without reservation that thus far, he's been a disappointment. He's five months into the job, and over and over, he fails to muster the courage and commitment to simply do the right thing.

[mwb970]

15. Could your expectations be unrealistic?

I've found that disappointment generally stems from inappropriate expectations. You make it sound so easy for Obama to simply "do the right thing". Could it be that this is more difficult than you realize? How did it go when you were president?

:eyes:

[TexasObserver]

17. No. Could you be rationalizing things you don't fully understand?

It appears so.

[JPZenger]

16. Are we back to planted attacks?

It was so painful to visit DU when there were vicious planted attacks on Obama from supposed Hillary supporters. Remember all that "Hillary is 44" crap. This new increase in attacks on Obama appears a little too coordinated. I wish someone would do some research to expose the non-credible ones.

[scheming daemons]

28. Yup.

All of the posts have the same "message of the day"....

..one day LGBT... the next day health care... the next day Iraq... then rinse and repeat.



These are people who didn't want Obama in the first place, and they are attempting to spread F.U.D.

[Forkboy]

32. That's three pretty big issues though.

I can see why people would talk about all three daily. :shrug:

[Bluenorthwest]

33. Feel free to forward your request for list making to HUAC

or directly to Senator McCarthy! Thanks!

[Frustratedlady]

18. Thank you for posting this. It's getting to the point of ridiculous.

Obama has only been in office for what, 5 months? If the complainers would stop and think, they could see that the guy has done much more to help us than Bush did in a year to harm us. I picture these complainers as Monday Morning Quarterbacks. Know all, do nothings.

Sorry, but I get so sick and tired of hearing their complaints. They should shut up and get out and do something to help. Obama isn't the only person involved, you know? There is a Congress and cabinet to consider, as well as how many employees? Look at the improvement in communication. Would you rather he did everything in secret? Just the change in the world's attitude toward the US is a big plus.

He is reaching out to a bunch of Rethugs that don't deserve his attention, but he is giving it to them. They are acting like a bunch of preschoolers who are in the "NO, I WON'T" stage. Just handling them has got to be a PITA.

Give the guy support. Obama is such a breath of fresh air, it is incredible. I love Obama!

[spooked911]

20. he's clearly better than Bush-- BUT

he's continued way too many bullshit legal Bush policies, done little to nothing to end the wars and has been way to timid with the bankers and on health care. I am deeply disappointed with him.

There's no harm in expressing criticism-- one can only hope someone is listening.

[goclark]

23. I totally agree ~ Republicans win again - we are crabs in a barrel

That is exactly what the Republicans want us to be(crabs in the barrel) and some of us are sucked right into it.

Some want to hold President Obama to every word and make sure he crosses every "t" that he said during the campaign.

Hello! From the moment he stepped into office, he was hit with a pile of crap left by Bush that was unreal.

If he or any other candidate had a crystal ball, I'm sure they would not have "promised" each of us our own little wish list.

BushCO knew what they were doing -- I don't recall any quarterbacks saying during the campaign that our Economy would have a major impact on which issues should be on the front burner and which on the back burner but still on the stove.

And frankly, I don't know of any other candidate(from either party) that could do better with this mess. If there was so much faith in some other Democratic candidate, why didn't that candidate win?

I'm African American and yes I am proud that for the 1st time we are residents instead of servants in the House that our ancestors built for not a dime. And yes I am proud that African Americans have been loyal voters for the Democratic Party and that our votes were meaningful in Obama winning.

However, I was just as happy voting for Clinton,Kerry and every other person that I thought could beat back the Republican Thieves.

OK, here is an option - "Let's go form our own different party" - don't think so ! We all fought like hell to put a Democrat in the WH and we had the best and the brightest running against McShame and Miss Alaska 1989. Even then, those two losers were all set to Rove us again.

But they didn't! We pulled it off with an overwhelming victory. Yea Democrats and boo Voting Machines and Rove's Elves.

Now back to "promises."

As I recall, everyone was "promising" about the same thing. Well, John Edwards was really saying some fantastic things about helping the poor ...I was crazy about him and his promises -- how disappointed we all were that his promise to his wife at the time of their marriage didn't stick.

I was a Clinton fan from way back and it seemed that most of her promises were the same as Obama's. I recall people here saying she was a "Conservative" in the Democratic Party. If that is/was so--- how "progressive" would HC have been at this point? I think she is doing a great job at State and she certainly has her hands full with problems that we didn't predict, like Iran for example.

And how in the world would she have predicted that she would break her elbow! Those things happen and I mention it because I sprained my ankle once and some of the things I was planning to do were certainly put on my waiting list.

I think Howard Dean is dynamite. However, we see that they took him to the cleaners with a fake "scream." He ran the campaign,IMO, in a fantastic way. If not for him we would be looking at Sarah screaming at us every damn day!

Dennis K.is my man! If I could pick a candidate that is "progressive" honest,fair and smart, I would pick Dennis.
We all had an option to vote for him and many made an X by his name.

Hello! My Dennis didn't get to first base with the sharks out there. How far would he get his "progressive" agenda in this climate?

We have a right to debate decisions made by our President. We sure do! That is not the problem that I see here.

The problem as I see it is... if you debate with me, respect me.
I don't listen to anyone that tries to bully me. If I wanted to debate with bullies I would post at the Freepers site.

One reason that I once enjoyed DU was having the ability to read various intellectual/informed views on hot button issues.

My ears and eyes are wide shut to bullies.

Win me over with your skill at presenting an issue and leave out all the FU's, threats and put downs of ALL of our Democratic leaders and I just might be able to open my eyes and ears again.

goclark

[Frustratedlady]

36. Well said!

[scheming daemons]

25. It's (mostly) people that had an anti-Obama agenda a year ago...

...and they're seeing an opening to spread FUD and discontent.

[jgraz]

29. You just keep telling yourself that

It'll keep you quiet while the adults get to work.

[eridani]

53. Excuse me, but I picked Obama next after Kucinich and then Edwards dropped out

This was not because I saw any policy distinction between him and Clinton. There are none. He was slightly better on the war and openness in government; she was slightly better on LGBT issues and health care. In either case, not enough better to sway me one way or another. I chose to work for Obama because he had a clue about 21st century campaign organizing and Clinton did not. (Major clue: her minor resume fluffing re Tuzla was perfectly acceptable. Keeping on repeating it after a YouTube video showing the contrary already had more than 500,000 hits was absolutely not.) And I'll freely admit that I didn't have a clue about what a really organized campaign was until I linked up with the Obama campaign.

We've gotten quite a few good moves out of the Obama administration, but that is not enough. We desperately need BOLD moves on financial regulation and on health care, but we are not getting them.

Just about all of the Obama policy bashers (not to be confused with Obama bashers) are the same consistent people we've always been, advocating for the issues we've always advocated for, and regarding all politicians, even those at the highest levels, as means to accomplishing advances on those issues and not as ends in and of themselves.

[jgraz]

21. Oh yay. Another long copy-and-paste list

Cuz we didn't get enough of that shit during the primaries. :eyes:

[scheming daemons]

26. Yes... because FACTS matter

Ignore the facts, jgraz, and continue with your "he's just like Bush" temper tantrums.

[jgraz]

27. I love a post that says "facts matter"

And then outright lies about what I've posted.

Nice.

[Bluenorthwest]

31. Some of us remember more than just Bush

So it is not either/or for us. And just so you know, cut and paste might fly for making website noise, but such actions are not welcome in the screenwriting world, and theft is not seen as a good thing. Create you own damn content.
He's better than Bush, are you happy now? Taller, better spoken, far more adept at the protocol and spokesperson parts of the job. Policy wise, thus far, he's also a tad better, but not much, and more to the point he is far from being the man he claimed to be.
As Presidents go, he's better than most. But there have only been 44 and that number includes both Bushes, Reagan, Nixon, Hoover, and many others who were far worse than average. When one compares Presidents to Presidents, the list is short and the bad ones so frequent that all it takes is mediocrity to be near the top of that class. Like being valedictorian of the Remedial Class.

[Political Heretic]

35. You're blatantly missing the point.

It should go without saying, for anyone, that there are going to be "accomplishments" from this administration. And it should go without saying, for anyone, that many of those accomplishments are going to differ from the previous administration.

There's a grand total of no one on DU who is claiming that Obama is identical to Bush or marches in lockstep with Bush on all issues.

Here's what is being said, if you're capable of handling it:

First, there are a surprising number of very large-impact major issues in which the Obama administration's position was surprising and disappointing to some. So the fact that you can cut and past a list of accomplishments does not change the major areas in which the administration has opted to go in the opposite direction of what some of us expected. That's not only deeply disappointing, but its also very scary when we look ahead to another three or seven years.

Second, when and where a policy position of this administration is compared to a similar policy position of the Bush administration, those comparisons can not be reinterpreted into "people are saying Obama is just like Bush." The only people stating that claim are people such as yourself, putting words into the mouths of others.

It is the case however, that in areas I would never have expected, this administration has taken Bush administration positions. They've made Bush administration arguments in court. And before you dig up the old meme about how they have to uphold the law, I must point out that the justice department is under no obligation to file motions to dismiss citing Bush administration arguments for secrecy, the right to have secret detention camps abroad that are not subject to international law, or treaty, or the constitution, etc. They could go before a judge. They could, without breaking any constitutional oath, concede to the plantiff.

This administration's chosen path for handling the financial crisis was a continuation of the Bush administrations trajectory, as well as a continuation of a trickle-down, wall street first approach to handling the problem. Those are a couple examples of specifics.

Beyond this, we have every right to be upset about the escalation of a war in Afghanistan, or the extension of the original timetable for withdraw in Iraq (not to mention the addition of a disclaimer that not every single solider would necessarily be out of Iraq even on the new timetable). We have every right to be upset about the state of the health care debate and the unwillingness of the administration to take a hard line for robust, thorough health care reform that guarantees coverage for every American.

A list of lesser accomplishments doesn't change these major problems. Nor others that are regularly discussed.

Finally, the notion that we should stop criticizing a President is ludicrous, and completely at odds with our responsibilities as citizens. It's our duty to apply constant pressure to our leaders, especially in a system this corrupt, where the natural tendency of Washington politicians is to quickly become "tone deaf" to the sound of the public.

There's no place for sitting the sidelines and just "cheering." There's too much at stake and too many forces lined up against the American people. Now is the time to fight tooth and nail, and stop acting like Obama is such a good guy that he will just magically do everything the people need without their intense pressure and demand despite the overwhelming massive forces of powerful financial and privileged interest bringing all their resources to bear on his presidency.

[goclark]

40. Don't mind fighting tooth and nail if I have the respect of

my TEAM mates.

The important issues get clouded because of all the bully words that are used around here.

If these "issues" are so important than why can't there be postw that help us to have quality information that will win those that may not be as knowledgable over to that cause.

Instead,more time is spend bashing Obama than telling us how to address the concerns in a positive way.

It's like Kobe Bryant telling his team mates to go to hell and then wanting them to help him win "MVP."

[Number23]

48. Very nice analogy

It's like Kobe Bryant telling his team mates to go to hell and then wanting them to help him win "MVP."

:thumbsup:

[jgraz]

41. Your post speaks for a lot of people here.

:thumbsup:

[earth mom]

43. You can't handle the truth. nt

[Greyhound]

47. When will the party adopt "We Suck (a little) Less" as their official motto?

But just for grins, here's a coupe of items from your list of accomplishments that are reasons for disappointment;

May 19 2009 – Obama teams up with the auto industry to raise the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards to an average of 35.5 mpg by 2016. The program is reported to save up to 1.8 billion barrels of oil or 900 million tons of greenhouse gases.

Even conveniently ignoring the fact that he hung the industry out to dry (die), this Brave New Standard is meaningless and ineffective. Even the Chinese manufacturers already surpass it and we won't get there until 2020. Underwhelming. A scrawny, dessicated bone thrown to the pesky environmentalists to maintain his cred.

May 22, 2009 – Creates a credit card bill of rights. Limits unwarranted spending and gives consumers more options to pay their bills on time. It has been debated if this will negatively affect the industry.

I think you just tried to sneak this POS through believing nobody would read your missive. This fig twig, sporting a name even the bureau of NewSpeak would find hard to swallow, does absolutely nothing to protect consumers, and it's primary requirement of the usurers is to give an additional two weeks notice that they are going to fuck you.

Is he worse than Idiot Frat Boy? Of course not. Is he bringing the change we voted for? Infinitesimal and what little he has will not make one whit of difference in how well we are going to be able to deal with the devastation that is still coming.

What he has done is to ensure that the perpetrators of this train wreck will not suffer any consequences and that their paychecks are back to normal, that was and is his priority.

[Toasterlad]

49. LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!!!!1!!!1 SHE ONLY WANTS TO ENTERTAIN!!!!1!

[Cha]

52. Darn, loyalKYDem..you've

got a wealth of information there, thank you!

There's a lot of us here who appreciate the reality based President as someone we can work with..and your list of his accomplishments remind of us of that.

[HamdenRice]

54. Thanks for the list! K&R nt