Police: Woman skinned puppy to make belt, Her friend killed the Jack Russell terrier for her

[Liberal_in_LA]

Police: Woman skinned puppy to make belt


MUSKOGEE, Oklahoma (AP) — A 23-year-old woman who got a friend to kill her Jack Russell terrier was charged with skinning the puppy to make a belt out of its hide.
Krystal Lynn Lewis and Austin Michael Mullins, 26, were being held Friday in the Muskogee County jail on $25,000 bail each. They were charged with one felony count of cruelty to animals.

A Muskogee County judge ordered a mental competency hearing for Lewis.

Lewis wanted the puppy, named Poplin, killed because it was a gift from a female ex-lover with whom she doesn't get along, said Muskogee County sheriff's deputy George Roberson.

Roberson said Mullins shot the terrier 10 times with a .22-caliber pistol. Lewis skinned the animal at her apartment and nailed the hide to a board.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-19-skinned-puppy-charges_N.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno

[madaboutharry]

1. Another example of why people shouldn't marry

their cousins.

Where do people like this come from?

[omega minimo]

35. LOL

Good question :shrug:

[liberal N proud]

2. And PETA is worried about a fly

[merh]

3. OMG

:cry: these people are sick -

the world is full of scarey sick people :cry:

[ceile]

4. I think I'm gonna be sick

I hope they rot in fucking hell.

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. +1

:cry:

[Canuckistanian]

5. Cruella DeVille lives!

My God, how could ANYONE think this was a good idea?

The mental competency test should be mandatory in cases like these.

[MercutioATC]

6. Sick on the surface, but how does a dog differ from a mink...or a chinchilla...or a cow?

The animal wasn't tortured, it was killed and made into a piece of clothing.

We do that every day.

[closeupready]

10. That's true, and why I think it will be difficult to make the charges stick. But

these people are disgusting.

[Canuckistanian]

13. Because in our culture, one animal is not a substitute for another

We breed and raise cattle for their meat, milk and hides. Dogs, on the other hand are bred and raised as human companions.

I know it's an abitrary difference, but cultural and societal practices and norms are very powerful.

Would you eat dog meat? Would you keep a keep a chicken for a pet? Not likely, because that's not the purpose we've collectively decided for them.

[rateyes]

14. I eat cows and wear their skins.

And, I don't eat mink or chinchilla. Neither do I wear their skins. These fuckers didn't shoot the dog to eat it, and they shot it 10 times! How do you know they didn't "torture" it? If the first shot didn't kill it, they tortured it.

These are sick bastards.

[northernlights]

16. most people think you're supposed to shoot between the eyes

that is incorrect and cruel. At best it blows a hole in the sinuses, and leaves the animal thrashing in bloody, blinded agony. My guess is that's what they tried, to leave the poor puppy's "pelt" intact. Fuckheads. Hope they throw the book at them, ten times over.

There is a correct procedure for euthanasia by bullet. I won't post it here. Knowledgeable livestock owners generally know what it is. And know that between the eyes is a disaster.

[superduperfarleft]

26. If you think your dinner died with one "shot," you need to think again. n/t

[rateyes]

32. I think no such thing. nt

[superduperfarleft]

39. So you're okay with your food being tortured, just not a dog? n/t

[rateyes]

41. I'm sorry, but I don't believe my food is being tortured.

[superduperfarleft]

42. Well, good luck with that.

You're wrong, but whatever makes you feel better.

[Ignis]

45. How do you align that belief with your own statement:

If the first shot didn't kill it, they tortured it.

Does this mean that livestock animals that require multiple bolts/cuts/whatnot to be killed have been tortured?

I'm just asking. Honestly. :hi:

[rateyes]

48. Ever heard of the humane slaughtering act? In fact, in one of the rare good

things GWB did was to make sure that law is enforced. It's been on the books since 1958, and improved in 1972 (I think that's the correct year.)

[Big Blue Marble]

50. If you think that food animals are all

slaughtered humanely, you are in serious denial.

[Ignis]

54. I have, yes.

And I applaud Sen. Pete Fitzgerald for pushing the Farm Bill resolution (which Shrub signed) in the Senate, despite the fact that he's an asshole Republican.

But there are still exemptions for kosher/halal slaughter, and there are still shoulder-shrugging "our hands are tied" failures in enforcement by the USDA, and there are still countless first-hand reports by slaughterhouse workers of gross failures to kill livestock in a single blow--whether conscious or not beforehand.

So, since we know that <100% of livestock is slaughtered with a single stroke/bolt/hammerblow, how are those cases not torture?

(Again, I'm not flaming or trolling you. I just honestly wonder about the ethical calculus used by other people when it comes to animal rights/welfare.)

[superduperfarleft]

58. The Humane Slaughter Act exempts chickens, for starters.

Chickens are pretty much tortured from the day they're born to the day they die. As far as the HSA goes, they're not considered animals.

It also doesn't cover castration of bulls without anesthetic, branding, or all manner of incredibly painful, cruel things that are done to "food animals."

If you want to be a cuddlytarian and get all outraged about a dog (and I'm not at all defending what these creeps did) while ignoring the MILLIONS of animals cruelly slaughtered for your food and clothing, that's fine. Just be a bit more honest about it.

[nyc 4 Biden]

79. Watch This...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4

[Kali]

124. when done corrrectly, branding and castration of calves is not "incredibly cruel"

I do 100 to 150 calves every year. Takes less than 30 seconds with a good crew. They are up and back with momma immediately.

I hope I don't have to point out that livestock are not the same as humans in terms of pain/nerve receptors on either their dorsal surfaces or testicular areas?

[ContinentalOp]

66. Hahahha, WOW.

Such denial. Tell yourself whatever you need to make it through dinner.

[rateyes]

107. I just enjoyed beef stroganoff for supper.

I have no problem being a carnivore on the top of the food chain. Sorry.

[superduperfarleft]

108. Feel free to be an omnivore.

(You're not a carnivore).

But don't lie to yourself that that cow you just ate wasn't "tortured."

[rateyes]

109. OK. Omnivore.

Ever see a cow die of a horrible disease? Ever see a chicken caught by a fox? Talk about torture!

Do you know what overpopulation of the species does to deer? Do you know what happens to the crab population when there are too many rockfish?

The circle of life needs balance. Humans can help with that. I don't want to eat brown beans the rest of my life to get the needed protein in my diet.

[superduperfarleft]

110. :facepalm:

[rateyes]

112. huh? What is :facepalm:

Oh, and BTW, I don't judge vegetarians or vegans for their ethical choices, either.

:facepalm: (if there is a smiley here, I'll have my answer.)

[mitchum]

36. True...that's why I personally strangle every cow, pig, chicken, octopus...

snail, oyster, lobster...that I eat

[Ignis]

73. You strangle your own oysters?

Now that's challenging! :)

[pleah]

87. One shot does work.

I grew up on a farm and we used to do all our own butchering. So, unless whoever is doing the shooting doesn't know what they are doing, it should work.

Just saying.

[Pavulon]

90. Stupid and Cruel in this case, 10 is the entire mag on most .22 pistols (nt)

[pleah]

96. Yes, it was nothing but cruel.

I was responding to something other than the cruelty of the original post.

When I was a child we got all the strays that were dumped in area. At one time we had 13 cats and 12 dogs. There was no such thing as a humane shelter. You only used the vet for livestock. We could not keep that many animals. It broke our hearts to get rid of them, but, at that time there was no other choice.

[Pavulon]

98. Motivated by need, not cruelty

A single .22 rifle shot to the head is effective for sure. The motivation behind the act here is what makes it so repugnant. I grew up in a rural community and know exactly where my food comes from. Still this needless cruelty is disturbing.

[pleah]

99. You are so right. It is beyond

anything I could imagine.

[northernlights]

15. If you had ever come face to face with a bull in your back yard

then you would understand the difference.

RIP little Poplin. If you reincarnate, I hope you find a good person to love you back. :cry:

[KittyWampus]

25. Jack Russell Terriers who are kept as pets aren't considered livestock.

[closeupready]

43. Legally, they're considered things - property.

n/t

[superduperfarleft]

27. Easy answer: there is no difference. n/t

[Butch350]

31. Go down to your local Petsmart, petco, etc and ask...

Then get back with me and tell me what you found out. Pleeze!

[superduperfarleft]

40. What do you think they would say?

[Ignis]

44. You got a lot of hate for this post.

Personally, I applaud you for looking at the issue objectively. The animals we decide to eat/wear/keep as pets is purely a cultural bias.

I have difficulty seeing how this is morally more reprehensible than shocking a mink 10 times up the ass in order to make a coat.

[MercutioATC]

46. I'm used to it. People are fine with killing "ugly" animals.

It's the "cute" ones they get upset about.

Remember the big campaign to boycott canned tuna because "they catch DOLPHINS in those nets!"?

...where was the outrage over all of the TUNA they caught in those nets??


People are funny :)

[Ignis]

47. Well, the tuna/dolphin thing I can understand.

Only because many people (whether consciously or not) rate the "importance" of animals based on their perceived level of self-awareness, consciousness, etc. So if someone's decided to eat fish but not mammals because of higher brain activity in mammals, I can understand their not wanting to inadvertently kill mammals in the course of hunting for fish.

All of these decisions we make about what to eat/kill/wear/keep as pets are arbitrary, but you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. Most of us will happily eat an incredibly smart pig, but we wouldn't dream of eating a cat.

That being said, you're right: it usually just comes down to the Fluffy Factor. :)

[Pavulon]

51. Tuna is Yummy. I catch, kill, and eat it when possible..

yippy dog was not killed for clothing requirements, it was killed over a domestic disturbance. Like comparing killing a person kicking your door in and just randomly killing a person you are angry with.

Tuna is tasty but I only eat tuna I catch because the practice of long line and net fishing is highly destructive.

[MercutioATC]

52. It was an unwanted animal.

The "responsible" thing to do would have been to bring it to a shelter, where it would have most likely been killed.

The result is the same...one dead dog.

...at least there was the net gain of a belt, in this case.

[Pavulon]

53. Being shot or injected with PB

is a major difference. I have seen animals die from both, they are not comparable.

[MercutioATC]

55. I agree that the 10 shots was a little extrame.

...but snapping its neck would have caused no more suffering than a shot at the shelter.

[Pavulon]

59. Have you ever killed anything?

severing the spinal cord would cause death, eventually. It is not instant. Destroying the brain is generally instant. Ie 2 pistol shots to the head.

Given a choice in my death I would prefer to be injected with a massive overdose of phenobarb or a similar drug.

Trust me, you would too.

[MercutioATC]

63. I grew up on a farm. Occasionally, things had to be killed.

Usually, they got shot...and death was instantaneous.

[Pavulon]

65. Yep, I never recall 10 rounds being used

that is the entire magazine on most 22s. If they shot it in the head sure. Who knows this reeks of cruel and stupid.

[Ignis]

56. Sure, but couldn't we say the same for tuna?

I'm sure it's no fun to be caught with a hook in your cheek and then slowly "drown" to death out of water. Shouldn't we be humanely putting fish unconscious before we kill them?

[Pavulon]

60. Down the slope we go..

a fish is not a household pet. Fish are yummy, dogs so I here are not.

[superduperfarleft]

62. Some people keep fish as pets.

And you can't just say "X is X" based on nothing more than cultural bias, and expect to be taken seriously. It's like arguing with my fundie grandmother when people say shit like this.

[Ignis]

67. How about pigs? Cats? Rats? Monkeys? Rabbits?

All of the above are considered "yummy" by some people, and "pets" by others.

I understand it's an arbitrary line; I'm just trying to understand where/why/how you've chosen to draw your own line.

[Pavulon]

89. Simple bullshit meter

If I am on a business trip in SE asia I understand and accept that people eat animals I train to play fetch. This is done for necessity or cultural reasons. If I am in the states I do not expect people to justify shooting a PET as this was, and playing it off to another point.

This is not about a big idea of vegan vs meat eaters, this is about some asshole who shot a dog 10 times because of a domestic situation. That action is not acceptable in any culture, killing something someone cares about to get them back is universally asshole behavior.

My line is drawn depending on lots of factors, common sense being my basic approach.

[Ignis]

103. Well, we'd already moved off-topic to fish.

I'm not trying to bring veganism into the debate, nor am I trying to wag fingers at anyone's dietary choices. As a frequent business traveller to SE Asia myself, I'm no stranger to wide variations in what people consider Cute vs. Food (or both!).

But your argument leads me to believe that you would think it just as bad if it had been a pet fish that had been shot 10 times and made into a fishy belt. And I don't think that's really what you're trying to say, is it?

[Pavulon]

105. I believe "common sense" was used..

these people shot that dog to get even over a domestic situation. Cat , dog, rabbit, whatever not acceptable. Most people do not shoot fish, but the motive for this persons cruelty is the point.

[Ignis]

106. Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.

The animal abuse involved in this story sickens me--as I'm sure it does most people--but animal abuse used as a tool to get your digs in over a domestic situation is even more reprehensible.

[Sheepshank]

115. yes, you should smash it's head agains a rock...real quick like

I really wish tobacco companies would have put a bullet in my aunts head, rather than watching her die a painful, ugly, debilitating death that took years years.

[Pavulon]

57. Oh yeah, 10 shots is the magazine on a Ruger 22 pistol

so the shooter dumped the mag. Wonder why, rather than using 2 humane shots? Because they are a cruel and stupid asshole.

[TeeYiYi]

88. Seriously?...

Is that true? I've never heard of that.

I knew someone with a mink ranch. She would break their necks with her bare hands. It was very quick. (Not that I approve but it seems more humane than electric shock.)

TYY (...who won't even kill a spider or cockroach, but takes them all outside instead.)

[Ignis]

104. Is what true, mink coats = anal electrocution?

If so, yes.

http://www.hsus.org/furfree/news/new_york_bans_anal_electrocution.html

[uppityperson]

118. how the heck do they get electrodes up squirmy biting fighting minks?

I am very much against raising animals just for their fur, like minks. But this has me really puzzling since weasely guys are vicious and quick and squirmy.

[Ignis]

119. They muzzle and/or restrain the mink first. (VIDEO)

Then, by sticking one electrode in the mouth and one in the anus, they complete the circuit and electrocute the mink.

Here's a video of the same procedure being done to a fox on a fur farm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnfsmk61vDc

WARNING: This video is graphic. :(

[uppityperson]

121. Had a teacher friend confiscate some baby minks at high school one day

some kid found them and thought they were ferrets so was passing them out to their friends. My teacher friend knew enough of wildlife to be able to ID them, called whomever fish&game people are to come get them. Teacher gave a talk in science classes later that week, explaining the difference between ferrets and minks.

Seems to be that gassing them would be faster/easier, but then they might chew each other up and "ruin" the fur. I inherited an old fur coat which I wear a few times a winter, was great up in AK, long and warm. That said, I would never buy one and think that anyone who does is wrong, ethically. If you really need one for the warmth, buy a used one. For fashion? Faux fur or just get another fashion sense.

And yes, I am an omnivore who raises chickens for eggs and meat. Still wouldn't raise animals just for their fur. And thank you for the video, but think I'll pass.

Edited to add that I ran across a fox fur farm while in AK. I couldn't figure out why these people had so many pet foxes and why they kept them in separate cages rather than being able to socialize together. People I was out skiing with laughed at me and explained. Appalling. Simply appalling. If you are going to raise an animal to kill and make use of its body, at least eat the thing, or use it in a respectful manner. Don't just use a small part of it and throw the rest away as this is not very respectful.

[Dappleganger]

69. We have two chinchillas...

I cannot imagine how anyone could bear to skin these sweet things.

[K8-EEE]

7. Cruela de Ville comes to life....

Creepy!

[rateyes]

8. Stuff like this makes me question my philosophy of being opposed to

"eye for an eye" justice.

The neanderthal part of me wants to see those two people shot and skinned, their hides nailed to the wall to dry, and suitcases made from skin.

But, since the better side of me says that would be "cruel," I will settle for seeing them in prison for the rest of their sorry lives.

[OneGrassRoot]

9. Okay, not all of this crap can be chalked up to the horrible economy.

Maybe it issimply that heinous, nightmarish acts have always been committed at the same rate they're happening now in a supposedly civilized society, and we're simply more aware of it because of the intertubes.

But, damn, people...it feels like the sickness is deepening and more and more people are losing their humanity and decency in a very real, concrete sense.

I keep looking for good news stories, and I find them, but the horror stories are more numerous and so much more extreme.

It's beyond disheartening. I pray these people don't procreate.

[Javaman]

11. what a crazy mother fucker.

So the concept of taking it to an animal shelter never occured to this sociopath.

mandy and malory in the making.

[WillieW]

18. I like to have 5 minutes alone with this jerk

[ZombieHorde]

71. What would you do to her? nt

[WillieW]

74. make a belt

[ZombieHorde]

76. As long as you eat what you kill I am cool. nt

[GoesTo11]

17. It's just a dog.

Why get so emotional? I mean, as people above have said, we kill all sorts of animals for all sorts of things. If we are going to get so bent out of shape over one dog, then our entire nation is condemned to eternal hell for what we do en masse to pigs, cows, sheep (veal???), chickens, fish, plus the minor animals. We eat 'em. We make footballs and baseballs (horsehide) out of 'em, shoes, belts, coats, we race them to death,whatever. Even though dogs have been bred to kiss our ass, that doesn't mean they're more intelligent or feeling than other animals. If you want to be vegetarian and leather free, more power to you. But as a society, how can we have huge punishments for this and nothing for the rest. It's no more cruel at all than what happens every day at a factory farm.

[islandmkl]

24. why draw an arbitrary line at '...it's just a dog...'??

why cut the humans a break?

why consider any causes for the actions as being relevant?

[GoesTo11]

30. Why indeed

Humans are kinda special. Really are - in terms of ability to think about future of life, etc. I don't believe that when a butcher kills a cow, it is taking away the cow's hopes and dreams and it is leaving an unfillable gap in the lives of its friends and family. The cow certainly feels pain, as we do, and feels stress if kept in nasty conditions, as we do.

If we are talking about what is the highest level of thinking life form we kill, I would be happy to draw a line between dogs and humans if we have to. Some primates too, perhaps. You just don't go around killing humans as a resource. Should the line be lower than that? Lower than dogs? As low as chickens, fish, ants? I'm comfortable with lowering the line. I could live without leather or meat of any kind. still want to kill mosquitos.

[varkam]

123. Why draw an arbitrary line between 35mph and 100mph?

[WillieW]

75. self deleted

[WillieW]

77. What is wrong with you?

[GoesTo11]

78. Please clarify

What is wrong with being part of a society that kills animals for various purposes? I don't actually think this is a good thing.

What is wrong with putting dogs on par with other quadraped mammals? I can't see why not.

[OhioChick]

19. What the hell is wrong with people?? n/t

[Coventina]

20. WHY DID I CLICK ON THIS THREAD?!?!?

:cry:

[GoCubsGo]

29. I'll tell you why I did....

Just to ask this question: Why the fuck do people find it necessary to post things like this here? This is something like the third or fourth animal abuse story I have seen here in the past week. Everyone here knows that this sort of vile behavior goes on all of the time. We don't need to be constantly reminded of it. I didn't click on the other stories, as just seeing the subject line gave me nightmares. I am sure I am not alone in being unable to stand the thought of dogs and cats being killed and tortured. I come to DU to get away from hearing about this kind of shit. Yet, here it is...

[Butch350]

34. Your right!

I read something like this and I wanna go out and beat the stuffing out of an animal abuser.

[Ignis]

68. The ostrich method doesn't work.

[GoCubsGo]

86. No "ostrich method" going on here.

As I said, I am fully aware that animal abuse occurs. As is everyone else here. Forcing these images in our heads constantly isn't going to make it stop. It's nothing but preaching to the choir. Is constantly posting these sorts of stories going to stop any animal abuse? No. All it does is give people the opportunity to wag their fingers and say, "Gee, what an awful person!" Everyone here, myself included, who is against animal abuse, is already fighting it in our own ways.

[Ignis]

101. You assume that every DUer is against animal abuse.

And that those who are, are already "fighting" against it.

I don't think either of those statements is supported by the evidence available--i.e., the posts from DUers on any AR topic.

Some people don't care. Others don't know the breadth/gravity of the abuse. It's the latter category that these topics aim to reach. HSUS and other AR organizations work not only to change laws, but also to expand public consciousness on AR subjects--which is often a prerequisite to getting the laws changed.

[Liberal_in_LA]

72. You can put the entire thread on 'ignore' and never see it again.

Do that next time you see a thread that disturbs you.

[GoCubsGo]

84. Thanks for the advice, but...

Just seeing the thread in the first place disturbs me. That was my point.

Consider "Put it on ignore" done.

[tekisui]

21. She must be really skinny. Not much hide on a jack russel.

[a la izquierda]

22. Sick stupid moron...

this comes on the heels of a conversation I had with a friend. Her vet told her that there's been a rash of people wanting dogs put down because they want a new one. The vet wouldn't do it, but if they insist, she takes the dogs and finds them new homes.
Fuckin' idiots, the lot of them. I hope they get jail time. I hope they're dreams are haunted by their actions.

[Sebastian Doyle]

23. And in a slightly related story

Merle Haggard issued a statement saying "Today, I am NOT proud to be an Okie from Muskogee" :evilfrown:

[Tim01]

28. So this was to torment her lesbian ex- lover. Nice.

I hope she goes to jail and has an accident.

I hate people who hurt dogs for entertainment.

[proteus_lives]

33. Disgusting!

Sometimes I really agree with the concept of mob justice. :mad:

[Taitertots]

37. PETA and humane society kill thousands more dogs and cats

and they don't even make belts out of them. There is nothing wrong with killing unwanted animals.

[mitchum]

38. Really? And they shoot each animal 10 times?

how fascinating

[Taitertots]

61. They just use poison gas

That makes it so much better that they kill more animals than anyone they complain about.

I'm pretty sure a terrier shot 10 times died pretty fast with minimal pain and suffering.

[Pavulon]

64. Barbiturates IV

or other chemical drugs that kill without pain. They also reduce error, ie pain caused by a missed shot. Most states do not allow the use of CO2.

[Taitertots]

91. That makes it so much better

They are killing thousands of animals regularly. I guess when you murder so many animals you need a more efficient way than shooting them or gassing them.


Ten shots is more than sufficient to quickly and humanely kill a small animal. It is the only reasonable way available to everyone. They obviously couldn't just go buy barbiturates.

[Pavulon]

95. Or 20 dollars. This was not about killing the dog, it was revenge

for an ex. They could have taken the animal to the shelter or to a vet (who does have t61, which is not sched2) and have it humanely killed for $20. Gassing animals is actually more efficient but states are outlawing it as cruel.

Tens shots it a mag dump in most .22 weapons. 2 shots is sufficient to kill, but that was not the point here. Skinning the animal was.

Are you defending this BTW? They had lots of options, they choose poorly.

The vet or shelter is available to everyone, the shelter is free.

These people are assholes and anyone with a 6th grade education who read the article would see that.

[Ignis]

116. So...you're just trolling, right?

Any other reason you're trying to antagonize and paint vegans in the worst light possible?

It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're a hunter, would it?

[Taitertots]

120. Not trolling, disagreeing

I don't think there is anything wrong with killing animals. The people who do in this case need to be reminded how much they enjoy the murder of animals. I enjoy killing animals for food and sport, I'm a hunter. If someone is killing animals in a humane way, limiting suffering than it is fine by me. Regardless if they intend to eat the animal or not.


If it is OK to kill farm animals and hunt wild animals then it is surely alright to kill your dog. If people have a problem with killing a dog, I feel it necessary to bring up how they enjoy the slaughter of thousands of other animals.

[Ignis]

70. I hate to bring it up, but ...

Just to be sure, you're not getting your numbers from petakillsanimals.com, are you?

If so, please research the CCF and read the following page on SourceWatch:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=PetaKillsAnimals.com

PETA is not an adoption agency. They are an advocacy organization.

[flvegan]

80. Sweet Jesus.

Embarrassing.

[Name removed]

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[Taitertots]

114. So you are a vegan?

Or do you only enjoy the slaughter of animals when you can eat their flesh?

[yewberry]

117. Euthanizing unadoptable animals is not the same thing

as killing and skinning on entrusted to your care.

Our euthanization rate is a disgrace, and I wish to hell that people would face the root of the problem, but there is simply no comparison. The people who did this to an animal they should have been caring for are sick and soulless.

[City Lights]

49. Fuck them both.

I'm *this* close to giving up on mankind. :cry:

[Taitertots]

93. Are you a vegan?

If not then thousands of animals are murdered regularly for your enjoyment.

[Name removed]

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[Ignis]

113. In French, I believe it is called "Le Troll." (nt)

[Norwood]

81. Just plain sickening

There are not many things that disgust and offend me, but this is definitely one of them. What the hell is wrong with people?

It wasn't the puppy's fault she didn't get along with her ex-girlfriend. At least take the dog to an animal shelter so s/he has a chance at finding a good home and a loving owner. What really makes me sick is that he shot the pup 10 times, which tells me the first 9 shots didn't kill him/her. What a horrible way to die :cry:

[lame54]

82. Shot a Jack Russell 10 times?...

there wouldn't be anything left for a belt

[dipsydoodle]

83. Fuck

Fuck, fuck, fuck. They both deserve skinning too.....eye for an eye.

[KamaAina]

85. Today's Worst. Person. In The World!

:grr: :banghead: :argh:

[Tangerine LaBamba]

92. Once again,

I am forced to rethink my absolute stand against the death penalty.

But locking these two up and throwing away the key would be right, I believe ...................

[SteppingRazor]

94. Finally, a story like this that doesn't happen in my state. n/t

[Beacool]

100. We were reading it at work.

The consensus was that someone should skin HER alive. Nasty piece of trash!!!!

What kind of sick mind does it take to do something so horrible??? It may not be a good analogy, but it reminded me of the stories of the Nazi who skinned the victims of the gas chambers and made lampshades with their skin.

The cruelty of human beings never ceases to amaze me.

:mad:



:cry:

[Stinky The Clown]

111. I can't get my hed around this.

I can't because I won't allow myself to do so.

[varkam]

122. We should skin them alive and make belts out of *their* flesh!!11!

Oh. :sarcasm:

[Kali]

125. someone who would kill another person's pet just to antagonize them is sick

10 shots? :wtf:

Yes use of the hide sounds horrible but that is NOT the sick part. Dog was dead, not skinned alive.

and I really hate to say it but 10 shots? Not much intact hide would be my guess.